‘A trains brakes were automatically activated’

[Abba]

 I know I talk about this a lot But Does anyone think it’s happening way too much lately?

[LexAveExp5]

It’s always been happening but in the emails/alerts they always called it either “stalled train” or “mechanical problem”. Go back and look, those are not happening as much now but only because they’re being more truthful about the cause of the delays now

[Abba]

They seem to say either “mechanical problem” “brakes automatically activated” or “stalled train”. I think th best thing is “train with emergency brakes activated” that’s the real truth. 

[Lance]

Thing is, people really don't care that much. The train was stopped because the brakes were activated. Whether it's the e-brakes or the regular ones is a matter of semantics to most riders when you get down to it.

[Deucey]

The question is why it's happening so much.

The subway wonk question is "Are they happening near timers?"

[VIP]

They need to get RID of those timers especially on Queens Boulevard and the Fulton Street Line. 

[LexAveExp5]

Usually regular signals (not timers) that flash to red causing the stop arm to trip the train. There’s no trains in front but there could be dust on the insulated joint which makes the system THINK there’s a train on the circuit so it automatically stops the train. Other times it’s just debris that trips the train 🤷‍♂️

[N6 Limited]

16 hours ago, LexAveExp5 said:

Usually regular signals (not timers) that flash to red causing the stop arm to trip the train. There’s no trains in front but there could be dust on the insulated joint which makes the system THINK there’s a train on the circuit so it automatically stops the train. Other times it’s just debris that trips the train 🤷‍♂️

Do they still try to get the T/O in trouble for that?

[INDman]

9 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

Do they still try to get the T/O in trouble for that?

No and they never did when a BIE is caused by a signal malfunction.

[INDman]

On 10/26/2018 at 6:26 AM, Lance said:

Thing is, people really don't care that much. The train was stopped because the brakes were activated. Whether it's the e-brakes or the regular ones is a matter of semantics to most riders when you get down to it.

Not true at all, if a train is brought to a stop by the T/O because of a red signal, it’s most likely to begin moving in relatively short order. If a train lost its air for an unknown reason, depending on the location, in can take a very long time before that train is in the move. If a train loses its air for an unknown reason, the T/O must investigate and if it’s a area where they can not walk around the train (river tube) they must descend to the roadbed between each car, on both sides to look for a raised stop arm, debris, parting of the train, straight air or brake pipe rupture, or body. So year, the method of break application does matter.

[Abba]

My problem is on some days about 10-15 are emailed. Is that considered a lot or it’s nothing?

[INDman]

On 10/28/2018 at 2:31 AM, Abba said:

My problem is on some days about 10-15 are emailed. Is that considered a lot or it’s nothing?

It’s just being reported more. Because people complain every time a train stops for more than a second, the TA is reporting any and all delays now no matter how short in duration they maybe. 

[N6 Limited]

24 minutes ago, INDman said:

It’s just being reported more. Because people complain every time a train stops for more than a second, the TA is reporting any and all delays now no matter how short in duration they maybe. 

Good, because it's frustrating being on a stopped train, or in the midst of obvious delays while the site says "Good Service".

[Abba]

Today I saw a 4 train stopped by express track at Kingston because of a sick passenger at Utica.it was there for 10 min proboaly more like 20 then the train keyed by a red signal.my guess is they were going to connect the train with the next train and have everyone walk through the trains to exit at Utica. But I’m guessing it was over by the time it could be done.