danielhg121 Posted December 11, 2019 Share #126 Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kamen Rider said: This started as an event at Penn Station for OMNY's expansion. But, at the roughly 30 minute mark, after they did the ceremonial tap-in, Andy Byford came back to the mic and he was LIVID. The Flushing CBTC system was malfunctioning in the slushy snow for the second time this month and he made it publicly known he was NOT a happy camper with Thales. I've never seen Byford this mad. He's not happy at all..... This definitely overshadowed the OMNY tap LMFAO. Edited December 11, 2019 by danielhg121 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted December 12, 2019 Share #127 Posted December 12, 2019 3 hours ago, danielhg121 said: I've never seen Byford this mad. He's not happy at all..... This definitely overshadowed the OMNY tap LMFAO. It's not that surprising. Even though various transit agencies have looked to Thales, more than enough have come away disappointed/angry/whatever. It got so bad that Edmonton decided to cut ties only months ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 12, 2019 Share #128 Posted December 12, 2019 3 hours ago, danielhg121 said: I've never seen Byford this mad. He's not happy at all..... This definitely overshadowed the OMNY tap LMFAO. You might not always see it, but he does get mad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted December 12, 2019 Share #129 Posted December 12, 2019 I mean, there's mad, and then there's look he had on his face, which to me screamed "I'm about two seconds from unleashing my Gordon Ramsey impression" I wonder how many times he said "bloody" today... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted December 12, 2019 Share #130 Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Lex said: It's not that surprising. Even though various transit agencies have looked to Thales, more than enough have come away disappointed/angry/whatever. It got so bad that Edmonton decided to cut ties only months ago. At least this isn't Hong Kong, where Thales testing collided two trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-express Posted December 12, 2019 Share #131 Posted December 12, 2019 WABC story on the topic: https://abc7ny.com/traffic/transit-president-furious-after-snow-and-ice-cause-7-train-delays-/5747378/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted December 21, 2019 Share #132 Posted December 21, 2019 I have a question about the CBTC equipment to be sure if it is properly understood: NYCT has recently (2016-19) installed CBTC packages on 1,566 R-160s for use on Queens Blvd CBTC. Last I knew that was a Gen III package. (?) for future Corona equipment 506 R188s are Gen II package . Canarsie Line for R-143s and 76 R-160A1s (8313-8376) are the original package (Gen I). As I understand it, the new Gen III R160A1s from ENY will be able to use Queens AND Canarsie , BUT the cars with Gen I cars that have been used on Canarsie since 2007 and 2008 will NOT be able to operate CBTC on the Queens Blvd . Can anyone specifically verify? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted December 23, 2019 Share #133 Posted December 23, 2019 CBTC testing is currently going on as I write this post on the QBL express between Forest Hills and presumably Jackson Heights. Both directions I saw test trains running at full speed, employees were at the front with laptops and other equipment. One was a 10 car train the other a 5 car train IIRC. This testing is what is causing the full local service GO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 23, 2019 Share #134 Posted December 23, 2019 As of this morning, CBTC is not yet up on the express tracks between Continental and Roosevelt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted December 23, 2019 Share #135 Posted December 23, 2019 It got delayed because of Thales. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfanner Mario Posted December 24, 2019 Share #136 Posted December 24, 2019 5 hours ago, RedLine said: It got delayed because of Thales. If u don’t mind me asking what’s “Thales” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 24, 2019 Share #137 Posted December 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Railfanner Mario said: If u don’t mind me asking what’s “Thales” The company that makes the CBTC system being installed on the QBL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted December 24, 2019 Share #138 Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: The company that makes the CBTC system being installed on the QBL. And the CBTC installed on the Flushing line currently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted December 24, 2019 Share #139 Posted December 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: The company that makes the CBTC system being installed on the QBL. Could have sworn QBL CBTC is a collab between Siemens and Thales 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Clear Posted December 24, 2019 Share #140 Posted December 24, 2019 I think Andy Byford was disappointed, I do believe he put on a show for the media because deep down inside he knows there is little hope at this point. Honestly. Let's be realistic. Enough with the contractors. Until they make drastic cuts on service including long term suspensions to sit there and get the work done it will never work. They haven't proven otherwise. They won't. 7 line has 20 year old equipment now. Parts of the flushing line are going on 100 years old. 22 stations terminal to terminal. Over a billion dollars invested. It really doesn't run a billion dollars better than it did before. Major improvement was the additional capacity of the R142a/188 (whatever you want to call it ) over the R62a. Yes I'm aware you can run a extra service because the run time is shorter now. Doesn't look reassuring when you have multi billion dollar capital program but the contractor never tested for snow accumulation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayFan3000 Posted December 25, 2019 Share #141 Posted December 25, 2019 18 hours ago, Late Clear said: I think Andy Byford was disappointed, I do believe he put on a show for the media because deep down inside he knows there is little hope at this point. Honestly. Let's be realistic. Enough with the contractors. Until they make drastic cuts on service including long term suspensions to sit there and get the work done it will never work. They haven't proven otherwise. They won't. 7 line has 20 year old equipment now. Parts of the flushing line are going on 100 years old. 22 stations terminal to terminal. Over a billion dollars invested. It really doesn't run a billion dollars better than it did before. Major improvement was the additional capacity of the R142a/188 (whatever you want to call it ) over the R62a. Yes I'm aware you can run a extra service because the run time is shorter now. Doesn't look reassuring when you have multi billion dollar capital program but the contractor never tested for snow accumulation. These Elevated Lines that Runs Flushing Line and Astoria Line needs to be Demolished and Rebuilt because it is Crumbling very badly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Clear Posted January 5, 2020 Share #142 Posted January 5, 2020 On 12/24/2019 at 10:13 PM, subwayfan1998 said: These Elevated Lines that Runs Flushing Line and Astoria Line needs to be Demolished and Rebuilt because it is Crumbling very badly. I think it's too late for that, or any kind of development in terms of expanding rail in NYC. The future of public transportation in this city will consist of the addition of dedicate bus lanes and select bus service. It has the least amount of impact in terms of construction, no issues with using eminent domain, and cheap and fast to institute. It's the quickest band-aid solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayFan3000 Posted January 6, 2020 Share #143 Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Late Clear said: I think it's too late for that, or any kind of development in terms of expanding rail in NYC. The future of public transportation in this city will consist of the addition of dedicate bus lanes and select bus service. It has the least amount of impact in terms of construction, no issues with using eminent domain, and cheap and fast to institute. It's the quickest band-aid solution. You're Right, Buses are Better than Trains. Edited January 6, 2020 by subwayfan1998 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted March 10, 2020 Share #144 Posted March 10, 2020 So why CBTC instead of cab signaling? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 10, 2020 Share #145 Posted March 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Deucey said: So why CBTC instead of cab signaling? The latter requires manual operation, which means we'd still be at the mercy of operators' skill levels on a regular basis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted March 11, 2020 Share #146 Posted March 11, 2020 22 hours ago, Deucey said: So why CBTC instead of cab signaling? They are not exclusive. In fact I would say that cab signalling is required for CBTC since you can't do it from the wayside. Cab signalling is a means of transmission of information, and the alternative is wayside signalling (e.g. physical signals along the railway). CBTC is specifically a moving block system, which allows for finer-grained monitoring of where trains are and thus the ability to squeeze in more trains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayFan3000 Posted March 11, 2020 Share #147 Posted March 11, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 1:54 PM, Late Clear said: I think it's too late for that, or any kind of development in terms of expanding rail in NYC. The future of public transportation in this city will consist of the addition of dedicate bus lanes and select bus service. It has the least amount of impact in terms of construction, no issues with using eminent domain, and cheap and fast to institute. It's the quickest band-aid solution. Yeah, Thanks to Corey Johnson for killing expansion of rails in NYC in favor of Buses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 11, 2020 Share #148 Posted March 11, 2020 2 hours ago, SubwayFan3000 said: Yeah, Thanks to Corey Johnson for killing expansion of rails in NYC in favor of Buses. Because he's the one to blame for it... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted March 13, 2020 Share #149 Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) On 3/11/2020 at 11:35 AM, SubwayFan3000 said: Yeah, Thanks to Corey Johnson for killing expansion of rails in NYC in favor of Buses. The City Council Speaker makes transportation policy in this City now? That’s news to me. Wouldn’t de Blasio and his DOT commissioner, Polly Trottenberg, be to blame for that since it’s DOT that makes the City’s transportation policy? Even then, I wouldn’t say they’re entirely to blame for why we’re expanding the subway slower than a snail’s pace. What about absurdly high construction costs? Edited March 13, 2020 by T to Dyre Avenue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayFan3000 Posted March 13, 2020 Share #150 Posted March 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: The City Council Speaker makes transportation policy in this City now? That’s news to me. Wouldn’t de Blasio and his DOT commissioner, Polly Trottenberg, be to blame for that since it’s DOT that makes the City’s transportation policy? Even then, I wouldn’t say they’re entirely to blame for why we’re expanding the subway slower than a snail’s pace. What about absurdly high construction costs? Corey Johnson is Pro-Bus Expansion and he is also Pro-Cuomo, I'm Also blaming Corruption and Lobbyism for High Construction Cost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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