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Spring 2019 Bus Schedule Changes & (L) Train Shutdown Bus Service Changes

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http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/181210_1000_transit-bus.pdf 

 

Spring 2019 Bus Schedule Changes (Page 223-228)

The major one here is the Bx36 artic conversion, which is said to save $3.1 million. Also, we know that the remaining Orion VII CNG buses will be retired by Spring 2019 (since based on the document, that's when the tanks expire). The new headways are every 10 minutes during off-peak hours on Weekdays, Saturday evening, and daytime hours on Sundays, every 9 minutes Saturday daytime, every 3 minutes during the AM peak, and every 5 minutes during the PM peak.

Here are the winners (routes that will get service increase) and losers (ones that will see service decreases). These service changes will cause a net reduction of $2.5 million annually in operating expenses. 

 

Weekdays:

Winners:

B16 Rush Hour: AM and PM peak service will operate every 5 and 12 minutes respectively, instead of every 6 and 15 minutes. 

B67 Rush Hour: AM and PM peak service will operate every 10 and 12 minutes respectively, instead of every 12 and 15 minutes.

B69 Rush Hour: AM and PM peak service will operate every 12 minutes, instead of every 20 and 15 minutes, respectively.

Bx3 AM rush: Service will operate every 5.5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes.

Bx18 Evening: Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 20 minutes

Bx35 Midday: Service operates every 7 minutes instead of every 8 minutes

Bx39 Evening: Service will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes

Q20 AM rush Service will operate every 7 minutes instead of every 8 minutes

Q26 Evening: Additional Service will be provided during the evening

Q27 Midday: Service will operate every 5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes

 

Losers:

B44 AM rush: Service will operate every 6 minutes instead of every 4 minutes.

B44 Evening: Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes.

B44 SBS AM rush: Service will operate every 5 minutes instead of every 4 minutes.

B44 SBS Midday: Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes.

B44 SBS Evening: Service will operate every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes.

B83 Midday: Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes.

B83 PM rush & Evening: Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 8 and 9  minutes, respectively.

Bx3 PM rush: Service will operate every 6 minutes instead of every 5.5 minutes.

Bx17 AM rush: Service will operate every 5.5 minutes instead of every 5 minutes

Bx17 PM rush: Service will operate every 8.5 minutes instead of every 7.5 minutes

Bx17 Evening: Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes

Bx21 Midday: Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 8.5 minutes

Bx31 AM rush: Service will operate every 6.5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes

Bx31 Midday: Service will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

Bx31 PM rush: Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 8.5 minutes

Bx31 Evening: Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes

Bx35 AM rush: Service will operate every 4 minutes instead of every 3.5 minutes

Bx35 PM rush: Service will operate every 6 minutes instead of every 5.5 minutes

Bx35 Evening: Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes

Bx39 Midday: Service will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

M31 AM rush: Service will operate every 6.5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes

M31 Evening: Service will operate every 6.5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes

M72 AM rush Service will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

Q27 LIMITED Evening: Service will operate every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes

 

Saturdays:

Winners:

B63 PM: Service will operate every 8 minutes , instead of every 12 minutes. 

B63 Evening: Service will operate every 15 minutes, instead of every 20 minutes

S52 PM: Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 20 minutes.

 

Sundays:

Winners:

Q27 AM: Service will operate every 7 minutes , instead of every 8 minutes. 

 

 

L Train Shutdown Bus Service Adjustments (Page 228-241)

Proposed Bus Routes:

L1: Grand Street to 14 Street (Weekdays Only)

L2: Grand Street to SoHo (All Times)

L3: Bedford Avenue  to SoHo (Except Late Nights)

L4: Bedford Avenue  to 14 Street (Except Late Nights)

L5: Non-stop between Utica Avenue (3)(4)  to Flatlands Avenue & Remsen Avenue, then LTD stops via Rockaway Parkway to Seaview Avenue, rush hours only 

L14: 14 Street Crosstown to Grand Street Brooklyn, via Williamsburg Bridge, every 10 minutes during overnight hours only

M14 SBS: 10th Avenue to Union Square, then one stop at 1st Avenue before heading to Stuyvesant Cove Ferry Terminal

 

Also:

B32 Will run every 15 minutes all day, every day

L1 and L2 will now stop at Grand Street & Union Avenue

Edited by BM5 via Woodhaven

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I don't understand why they aren't adding more service to the B82 for the L train shutdown? It provides a direct connection to the B train unlike the b6. Thats just my opinion and concern. Also to add the B39 will be discontinued until after the shutdown. 

Edited by Brillant93
added info on the b39

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30 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

B32 Will run every 15 minutes all day, every day

L14: 14 Street Crosstown to Grand Street Brooklyn, via Williamsburg Bridge, every 10 minutes during overnight hours only

The B32 is in need of a service increase. Do you know if the B32 service increase is permanent or only for the shutdown?

Also, would the M14 be cut overnights due to the L14?

 

Edited by Lil 57

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8 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

I don't understand why they aren't adding more service to the B82 for the L train shutdown? It provides a direct connection to the B train unlike the b6. Thats just my opinion and concern. Also to add the B39 will be discontinued until after the shutdown. 

 

Maybe those folks seek the Eastern Parkway lines more than they do the Canarsie line...

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1 hour ago, Brillant93 said:

I don't understand why they aren't adding more service to the B82 for the L train shutdown? It provides a direct connection to the B train unlike the b6. Thats just my opinion and concern. Also to add the B39 will be discontinued until after the shutdown. 

The Brighton line is far and out of the way from Canarsie.

 

Maybe if they had a shuttle bus from Rockaway Parkway to Sheephead Bay bus via Belt Parkway would be more tolerable.. but buses are banned from portions of the Belt sadly 

Edited by trainfan22

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8 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

The Brighton line is far and out of the way from Canarsie.

 

Maybe if they had a shuttle bus from Rockaway Parkway to Sheephead Bay bus via Belt Parkway would be more tolerable.. but buses are banned from portions of the Belt sadly 

The thing is they’re adding service to the B6 for the shutdown. The b6 and B82 serve the same neighborhoods and run together on both ends of thier routes. The difference is that the 82 has a direct connection to the B train at kings hwy. the B is a 6th Avenue line that runs express. 

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10 hours ago, Brillant93 said:

I don't understand why they aren't adding more service to the B82 for the L train shutdown? It provides a direct connection to the B train unlike the b6. Thats just my opinion and concern. Also to add the B39 will be discontinued until after the shutdown. 

The B39 is getting discontinued? Why?

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15 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

The B39 is getting discontinued? Why?

I don’t know. I guess for the shutdown only. Wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to redo the route itself to have better ridership on it. 

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49 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

I don’t know. I guess for the shutdown only. Wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to redo the route itself to have better ridership on it. 

Also some (L) shuttle routes would being using the Williamsburg Bridge so it'll make little sense to keep the B39 if the shuttle routes cover the entire B39 plus more already.

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1 hour ago, Brillant93 said:

I don’t know. I guess for the shutdown only. Wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to redo the route itself to have better ridership on it. 

Oh my bad, I thought you said after the shutdown.

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In the past, when train service was suspended due to track work or other constructions the shuttle bus used to be free. In the PDF document, it says this:

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These bus routes will operate as Select Bus Service routes with the off-board fare payment system. The L5 Limited route will not be SBS and fare payment will be on-board the buses.

If you have a metrocard, it is a free transfer from the subway to bus so it is not problem swiping the card again. I guess the days of just hoping on the shuttle bus if you are in the area for free is now gone

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For the Q27 changes, they're not specifying it's more than likely between Flushing and QCC. 

L Train Shutdown Bus Service Adjustments (Page 228-241)

Proposed Bus Routes:

L1: Grand Street to 14 Street (Weekdays Only)

L2: Grand Street to SoHo (All Times)

L3: Bedford Avenue  to SoHo (Except Late Nights)

L4: Bedford Avenue  to 14 Street (Except Late Nights)

L5: Non-stop between Utica Avenue (3)(4) to Flatlands Avenue & Remsen Avenue, then LTD stops via Rockaway Parkway to Seaview Avenue, rush hours only 

L14: 14 Street Crosstown to Grand Street Brooklyn, via Williamsburg Bridge, every 10 minutes during overnight hours only

M14 SBS: 10th Avenue to Union Square, then one stop at 1st Avenue before heading to Stuyvesant Cove Ferry Terminal

 

That L5 looks like a B42 on steroids lol

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2 hours ago, azspeedbullet said:

In the past, when train service was suspended due to track work or other constructions the shuttle bus used to be free. In the PDF document, it says this:

If you have a metrocard, it is a free transfer from the subway to bus so it is not problem swiping the card again. I guess the days of just hoping on the shuttle bus if you are in the area for free is now gone

But it’s different this time. They’re shutting down a main line from one bourough to the next for an entire year. That’s going to be money lost if they don’t charge for those shuttle buses. If this was just weekend work yeah they couldn’t charge but this is 24/7. 

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On 12/13/2018 at 7:04 AM, Brillant93 said:

The thing is they’re adding service to the B6 for the shutdown. The b6 and B82 serve the same neighborhoods and run together on both ends of thier routes. The difference is that the 82 has a direct connection to the B train at kings hwy. the B is a 6th Avenue line that runs express. 

Where did you read that B6 service would be increased for the shutdown? I couldn't find any info on that in the pdf or anywhere.

Edited by MidwoodMartin

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39 minutes ago, MidwoodMartin said:

Where did you read that B6 service would be increased for the shutdown? I couldn't find any info on that in the pdf or anywhere.

It’s on page 230

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On 12/14/2018 at 7:04 AM, Q43LTD said:

For the Q27 changes, they're not specifying it's more than likely between Flushing and QCC. 

L Train Shutdown Bus Service Adjustments (Page 228-241)

Proposed Bus Routes:

L1: Grand Street to 14 Street (Weekdays Only)

L2: Grand Street to SoHo (All Times)

L3: Bedford Avenue  to SoHo (Except Late Nights)

L4: Bedford Avenue  to 14 Street (Except Late Nights)

L5: Non-stop between Utica Avenue (3)(4) to Flatlands Avenue & Remsen Avenue, then LTD stops via Rockaway Parkway to Seaview Avenue, rush hours only 

L14: 14 Street Crosstown to Grand Street Brooklyn, via Williamsburg Bridge, every 10 minutes during overnight hours only

M14 SBS: 10th Avenue to Union Square, then one stop at 1st Avenue before heading to Stuyvesant Cove Ferry Terminal

 

That L5 looks like a B42 on steroids lol

It basically is lol. 

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