R262 (R62/R62A Replacement) - Information & Discussion

[Union Tpke]

 

Edited February 20, 2019 by East New York

[R68OnBroadway]

This order has been long past due... the 62s and 62As are nearing the 40 year mark and will need to be out soon for CBTC.

[Lawrence St]

DARN IT I was going to do this thread!

[Eric B]

Me too! Just saw it on a Facebook group and at first didn't think it could be real!

[trainfan22]

1 hour ago, R68OnBroadway said:

This order has been long past due... the 62s and 62As are nearing the 40 year mark and will need to be out soon for CBTC.

I think both fleets can do 50 years of service easily. They have been well maintained their entire careers and are stainless steel. 

[LGA Link N Train]

I found out about this in a Facebook group. TBH, I've had a similar idea to this. The only difference is that I named my idea "R205". Either way, R262 sounds cooler

 

Edited January 18, 2019 by LaGuardia Link N Tra

[Around the Horn]

Hopefully these will have open gangways like the R211Ts and the S stock in London.

I assume we'll probably see these cars in 2024 or 2025 at the earliest. Looking forward to seeing some renderings soon maybe. 

[LGA Link N Train]

9 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

Hopefully these will have open gangways like the R211Ts and the S stock in London.

I assume we'll probably see these cars in 2024 or 2025 at the earliest. Looking forward to seeing some renderings soon maybe. 

Here was something that I made a while back (originally in 2017, but I redrew it in 2018), here’s a picture 

(Sorry about the fact that it came out sideways) but this was an idea that I had that is somewhat similar to the R262. What do you all think?

[XcelsiorBoii4888]

25 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

Hopefully these will have open gangways like the R211Ts and the S stock in London.

I assume we'll probably see these cars in 2024 or 2025 at the earliest. Looking forward to seeing some renderings soon maybe. 

It says including open gangway. 

I'm looking forward to THIS order. The will be the best trunk in the entire system.  

Edited January 18, 2019 by XcelsiorBoii4888

[Lawrence St]

The major question is, will Bombardier be able to bid on this contract order?

[Enjineer]

2 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

The major question is, will Bombardier be able to bid on this contract order?

They were banned from all future orders, no? 

[Lawrence St]

Just now, Enjineer said:

They were banned from all future orders, no? 

Only from the R211 order.

[mine248]

2 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

The major question is, will Bombardier be able to bid on this contract order?

The MTA might not be willing to do so, but with the potential for Kawasaki to leave the competition, idk who will take over. CRRC? Alstom-Siemens?

[Around the Horn]

8 minutes ago, mine248 said:

The MTA might not be willing to do so, but with the potential for Kawasaki to leave the competition, idk who will take over. CRRC? Alstom-Siemens?

I'd expect CRRC, Siemens-Alstom, Hitachi and Bombardier if they're not banned.

[Coney Island Av]

Lol R262. It's just like R62 2.0 in a way! 

The R62/R62As are already nearing 40 years of service, so they will need to be retired soon. However, I don't see them leaving anytime soon (probably not until 2028-2030)...

[MHV9218]

Interesting to think whether the 62s or 62As will go first. The latter fleet are a few years newer, but they've been subject to way more abuse. The 62s consistently outperform on MDBF thanks to the diminished service requirements of the (3), sort of like how the 68As ought to long outlive the 68s given their M-F use only. I wouldn't be surprised if the 62s made it longer than the newer 62As. Their latest MDBF numbers were 2.5x that of the newer 62As. Also wonder if the MTA might spread the fleets more to decrease that kind of difference.

 

 

[LTA1992]

Hmm. I had an idea way back when the R211 came about that the MTA may be using the first digit of the contract number to denote generations. 

R142/143/160/179/188

R211/262/268(?)

R3xx for the R142 replacements and so on. Just a thought.

Opinions?

Edited January 19, 2019 by LTA1992

[Enjineer]

2 minutes ago, LTA1992 said:

Hmm. I had an idea way back when the R211 came about that the MTA may be using the first digit of the contract number to denote generations.

Well remember, there are orders in between these contracts, so I think they generally just go up as they get more railcar-related contracts. Not all of them are even things like new work equipment, sometimes there are R contracts for stuff like HVAC systems. It would make sense though that the "generations" of cars would fall into different numbers (R1XX, etc.) 

[4CNRailfan]

NTTs on the  sounds nice. I hope this happens within the next 10 years.

[V886132]

14 minutes ago, 4CNRailfan said:

NTTs on the  sounds nice. I hope this happens within the next 10 years.

I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up on the   , as the R142s from the  will likely have to go to the for Lexington Ave CBTC before the R262s.

[MysteriousBtrain]

18 minutes ago, V886132 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up on the   , as the R142s from the  will likely have to go to the for Lexington Ave CBTC before the R262s.

And this makes sense because????

[V886132]

3 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

And this makes sense because????

Just hypothesizing. Probably because these trains are probably decade out and Lexington Ave CBTC may be online before then. But that's just me.

[VIP]

Simple, any IRT line that has R62’s and R62A’s are going to get the R262’s ... any extra R262’s would probably be added to the / since they swap cars frequently. 

[NoHacksJustKhaks]

8 minutes ago, VIP said:

Simple, any IRT line that has R62’s and R62A’s are going to get the R262’s ... any extra R262’s would probably be added to the / since they swap cars frequently. 

I’m not saying you shouldn’t speculate all you want, but we won’t know for a certainty until we get closer to the launch; the contractor hasn’t even been picked yet at this point for crying out loud. 

Edited January 19, 2019 by NoHacksJustKhaks

[Around the Horn]

1 hour ago, V886132 said:

Just hypothesizing. Probably because these trains are probably decade out and Lexington Ave CBTC may be online before then. But that's just me.

The R262s are for Lex CBTC, specifically the so that shouldn't be an issue.