ADA-Accessibility - General Discussion

[Union Tpke]

I feel like that, with plans to increase the number of accessible subway stations, it would be useful to have a thread for it.

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Edited February 14, 2019 by Lance

[Lance]

Pinned.

I'll reformat the original post later to put the listed stations in some sort of order.

[Italianstallion]

I especially like this one, not only for its intrinsic need, but also because the existing two stairways are insufficient as it is.

 

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[Lance]

Here is the modified version of my Vignelli-inspired map illustrating the accessible stations and those that are in the planning or construction phases as of the latest update to the Capital Dashboard. Click on the image for a full resolution PDF.

As you can see, even with the new additions, we still have a lot of work to do to make the subway more accessible, especially on the Crosstown and Jamaica lines.

Edited February 17, 2019 by Lance

[Union Tpke]

2 hours ago, Lance said:

Here is the modified version of my Vignelli-inspired map illustrating the accessible stations and those that are in the planning or construction phases as of the latest update to the Capital Dashboard. Click on the image for a full resolution PDF.

 

As you can see, even with the new additions, we still have a lot of work to do to make the subway more accessible, especially on the Crosstown and Jamaica lines.

Great Map!

Errors:

You left out East Broadway, 77th, Union, Vernon-Jackson, East Broadway.

Also, GCT on the Shuttle is technically ADA-accessible, but is not listed because the only other stop on the route, Times Square, isn't. You should somehow list this. In the service guide, you list the Rockaway Pk  as non-accessible. You should mention that it can be accessed by a platform transfer at Broad Channel.

 

You should mention the green dots in the Key and that all buses are accessible.

 

28th Street  is accessible downtown.

V is capitalized in Park Place Franklin AV.

There is a plan to make Grove St. accessible.

Edited February 17, 2019 by Union Tpke

[Union Tpke]

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[bobtehpanda]

I thought Junius/Livonia transfer was fully funded. Is ADA not a part of that?

[Union Tpke]

2 hours ago, bobtehpanda said:

I thought Junius/Livonia transfer was fully funded. Is ADA not a part of that?

The funding was removed in April with the exception of that for design work.

 

Edited February 18, 2019 by Union Tpke

[RedLine]

Gun Hill Rd 5 will partially close temporarily soon.

[Around the Horn]

On 2/17/2019 at 1:52 PM, Union Tpke said:

There is a plan to make Grove St. accessible.

If we're counting PATH, Grove Street is already accessible

[Union Tpke]

6 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

If we're counting PATH, Grove Street is already accessible

I forgot. @Lance Harrison is accessible as well.

 

[Around the Horn]

Seems they've added this huge boarding area graphic on the floor of the Downtown side at Fulton on the ...

Saw a bunch of MTA people having a look when I took the first pic so it must be some sort of test.

[Union Tpke]

19 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Seems they've added this huge boarding area graphic on the floor of the Downtown side at Fulton on the ...

Saw a bunch of MTA people having a look when I took the first pic so it must be some sort of test.

Initially, this pilot was to be done at Church Avenue on the .

[Lance]

On ‎2‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 1:52 PM, Union Tpke said:

You left out East Broadway, 77th, Union, Vernon-Jackson, East Broadway.

Also, GCT on the Shuttle is technically ADA-accessible, but is not listed because the only other stop on the route, Times Square, isn't. You should somehow list this. In the service guide, you list the Rockaway Pk  as non-accessible. You should mention that it can be accessed by a platform transfer at Broad Channel.

 

You should mention the green dots in the Key and that all buses are accessible.

 

28th Street  is accessible downtown.

V is capitalized in Park Place Franklin AV.

There is a plan to make Grove St. accessible.

The map is updated for the planned accessibility for East Broadway and 77 Street, along with the current accessibility at 28 Street, Grove St and Harrison. I did not include Union Av or Vernon Blvd as there is no information readily available pertaining to planned accessibility at these stations aside from a note on the Wikipedia pages.

In regards to both Times Square and Broad Channel, in my opinion, they don't count as a disabled rider cannot actually enter or exit the station from these platforms, hence the routes being labeled as inaccessible. Broad Channel's platforms are large and flat enough that riders can change between the shuttle and the there, but they are out of luck if they are trying to get off at Broad Channel or any of the shuttle's intermediate stations. Times Square is a similar case as while the Grand Central platform is fully accessible, riders cannot go anywhere on the shuttle since Times Square's platforms are completely inaccessible and that's the only other station on the line. It's the same reason why I have the as completely inaccessible despite the full accessibility at Church Av and the cross-platform partial accessibility at Bergen St through Smith-9 Sts.

[Union Tpke]

37 minutes ago, Lance said:

The map is updated for the planned accessibility for East Broadway and 77 Street, along with the current accessibility at 28 Street, Grove St and Harrison. I did not include Union Av or Vernon Blvd as there is no information readily available pertaining to planned accessibility at these stations aside from a note on the Wikipedia pages.

In regards to both Times Square and Broad Channel, in my opinion, they don't count as a disabled rider cannot actually enter or exit the station from these platforms, hence the routes being labeled as inaccessible. Broad Channel's platforms are large and flat enough that riders can change between the shuttle and the there, but they are out of luck if they are trying to get off at Broad Channel or any of the shuttle's intermediate stations. Times Square is a similar case as while the Grand Central platform is fully accessible, riders cannot go anywhere on the shuttle since Times Square's platforms are completely inaccessible and that's the only other station on the line. It's the same reason why I have the as completely inaccessible despite the full accessibility at Church Av and the cross-platform partial accessibility at Bergen St through Smith-9 Sts.

Union and Vernon were added as part of the City's contributions to the Capital Program, which is described here:

 

45 minutes ago, Lance said:

The map is updated for the planned accessibility for East Broadway and 77 Street, along with the current accessibility at 28 Street, Grove St and Harrison. I did not include Union Av or Vernon Blvd as there is no information readily available pertaining to planned accessibility at these stations aside from a note on the Wikipedia pages.

In regards to both Times Square and Broad Channel, in my opinion, they don't count as a disabled rider cannot actually enter or exit the station from these platforms, hence the routes being labeled as inaccessible. Broad Channel's platforms are large and flat enough that riders can change between the shuttle and the there, but they are out of luck if they are trying to get off at Broad Channel or any of the shuttle's intermediate stations. Times Square is a similar case as while the Grand Central platform is fully accessible, riders cannot go anywhere on the shuttle since Times Square's platforms are completely inaccessible and that's the only other station on the line. It's the same reason why I have the as completely inaccessible despite the full accessibility at Church Av and the cross-platform partial accessibility at Bergen St through Smith-9 Sts.

For GCT, I am talking about future accessibility because Times Square will be accessible.

Union

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http://web.mta.info/capitaldashboard/allframenew_budhist.php?PROJNUM=t7160521&PLTYPE=1

Vernon

http://web.mta.info/capitaldashboard/allframenew_pi.php?PROJNUM=t7160524&PLTYPE=1

http://web.mta.info/capitaldashboard/allframenew_budhist.php?PROJNUM=t7160524&PLTYPE=1

Just like 170th

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http://web.mta.info/capitaldashboard/allframenew_budhist.php?PROJNUM=t7160526&PLTYPE=1

 

[Union Tpke]

@LanceYou forgot to include Broad Street and 86th street  uptown. 

https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/45-broad-street-supertall-coming-with-new-subway-elevators-financial-district.html

https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/45-broad-street-supertall-coming-with-new-subway-elevators-financial-district.html

 

You should change Long Island Railroad to Long Island Rail Road.

Edited February 21, 2019 by Union Tpke

[LegoBrickBreaker101]

 

1 hour ago, Union Tpke said:

@LanceYou forgot to include Broad Street and 86th street  uptown. 

https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/45-broad-street-supertall-coming-with-new-subway-elevators-financial-district.html

https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/45-broad-street-supertall-coming-with-new-subway-elevators-financial-district.html

 

You should change Long Island Railroad to Long Island Rail Road.

I know this is slightly off topic, but I wanted to point out that on the link you shared there's a map of the  line and it's one of the maps from after Hurricane Sandy. They also show the  to Jamaica Center and no one thought for a second to say, "Wait a minute... doesn't the MTA run trains downtown?"

[LGA Link N Train]

2 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

 

I know this is slightly off topic, but I wanted to point out that on the link you shared there's a map of the  line and it's one of the maps from after Hurricane Sandy. They also show the  to Jamaica Center and no one thought for a second to say, "Wait a minute... doesn't the MTA run trains downtown?"

That’s a huge gap when we’re talking about lack of ADA Stations on the !

i know that Woodhaven Boulevard and Crescent Street are planned for ADA. And people kept mentioning Broadway Junction at the Event. Norwood Avenue was also mentioned. 

If I’m not mistaken, Myrtle Avenue, Gates Avenue (I believe), Broad Street, Chambers Street and I think Alabama Avenue Are planned too. 

[Around the Horn]

9 minutes ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said:

That’s a huge gap when we’re talking about lack of ADA Stations on the !

i know that Woodhaven Boulevard and Crescent Street are planned for ADA. And people kept mentioning Broadway Junction at the Event. Norwood Avenue was also mentioned. 

If I’m not mistaken, Myrtle Avenue, Gates Avenue (I believe), Broad Street, Chambers Street and I think Alabama Avenue Are planned too. 

I'm very interested to see how they would handle Crescent. Theres not much room there.

[LGA Link N Train]

48 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

I'm very interested to see how they would handle Crescent. Theres not much room there.

Theres an abandoned apartment building near the station (next to the corner of Euclid Avenue and Fulton Street on Street level). If  some how managed to own that building, then maybe they could build a new ADA entrance using that. That’d be a logical solution in my opinion. 

[CenSin]

I hope that whatever the MTA does, it doesn’t get done in a way that impedes future expansion. The MTA has a knack for doing that—building auxiliary structures and storage where bellmouthes are, building over currently unused right-of-ways with essential infrastructure, …

I can totally see the MTA going the option of punching holes in the 3-track structures on the  and  to make an elevator shaft.

[Around the Horn]

14 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

 

I know this is slightly off topic, but I wanted to point out that on the link you shared there's a map of the  line and it's one of the maps from after Hurricane Sandy. They also show the  to Jamaica Center and no one thought for a second to say, "Wait a minute... doesn't the MTA run trains downtown?"

By any chance, do you have the rest of this document that it's from?

[LegoBrickBreaker101]

6 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

By any chance, do you have the rest of this document that it's from?

Its straight from the link below

16 hours ago, Union Tpke said:

@LanceYou forgot to include Broad Street and 86th street  uptown. 

https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/45-broad-street-supertall-coming-with-new-subway-elevators-financial-district.html

https://newyorkyimby.com/2016/07/45-broad-street-supertall-coming-with-new-subway-elevators-financial-district.html

 

You should change Long Island Railroad to Long Island Rail Road.

 

[Union Tpke]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Enjineer]

My mom just sent me a photo on her way home from work – we've seen the shaft for a while, but 86th on the 4/5/6 is getting an elevator! I only saw a shaft from street level, on the northbound side, as they're building a new building on the northeast corner, so it may be northbound only (and not sure if it'll serve both the local and express platforms, or just the local one). Still, it's something!