OMNY Implementation/Metro-Card Retirement Discussion Thread

[WestFarms36]

2 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

@WestFarms36

So I am checking just to be sure. Everything looks fine so far...

Yeah, you should nag that dude about it... Everything on your phone seems completely normal. Last week I couldn't log into omny.info because apparently the servers were down, I had a couple of friends also attempt to log into their OMNY accounts and had the same error,  didn't know about the issue until I notified them with photo evidence about what was going on.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Just now, WestFarms36 said:

Yeah, you should nag that dude about it... Everything on your phone seems completely normal. Last week I couldn't log into omny.info because apparently the servers were down, I had a couple of friends also attempt to log into their OMNY accounts and had the same error,  didn't know about the issue until I notified them with photo evidence about what was going on.

Yeah something is up because I make sure my phone is unlocked and opened with the app. I checked my Google Pay and it has five taps from the  today from that trip, and none of them went through. Just says "Pending", but they don't show on my actual credit card account at all. Meanwhile, I purchased a weekly express bus pass right after I got off of the BxM2 with that same card.

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

Some good and bad news according to the CPOC materials released today (excusethe mobile formatting) 

1. Reader installation will be complete by year end on subways and busses. SBS will have all door boarding. No word on ADB for other routes

2. Phase 3 and 4 pushed back by more than a year. More details below

3. Next six months will bring the following:

Closed loop pilot (aka OMNY card testing) 

Time or trip based testing using credit/ debit (bank) cards, with sales via site and app

Mobile app beta

4. Phase 3: Retail network for OMNY card begins rollout in July 2021

5. Phase 3: Reduced fare by September 2021

6. LIRR/MNR rollout by June 2022

7. New vending machines in 2023

 

Source https://new.mta.info/document/23941

 

[mikecintel]

28 minutes ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said:

Some good and bad news according to the CPOC materials released today (excusethe mobile formatting) 

1. Reader installation will be complete by year end on subways and busses. SBS will have all door boarding. No word on ADB for other routes

2. Phase 3 and 4 pushed back by more than a year. More details below

3. Next six months will bring the following:

Closed loop pilot (aka OMNY card testing) 

Time or trip based testing using credit/ debit (bank) cards, with sales via site and app

Mobile app beta

4. Phase 3: Retail network for OMNY card begins rollout in July 2021

5. Phase 3: Reduced fare by September 2021

6. LIRR/MNR rollout by June 2022

7. New vending machines in 2023

 

Source https://new.mta.info/document/23941

 

Thanks for the updated.  Really appreciate it.  Yes that great the readers will be completed next month WONDERFUL!.  Ugh I can't believe they don't have a word for All Door Boarding.  Ahhh OK sounds good OMNY card testing.  I wonder if the general public will get the OMNY card test drive.  Well at least we will have the OMNY card in July 2021 but originally it was suppose to be Feb 2021.

[Around the Horn]

Add: Bay Ridge Av 

 

 

[mikecintel]

3 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

Add: Bay Ridge Av 

 

 

Oh wow it looks really nice.  I guess the side doors will be replacing the gates then.  I think those will have readers on them for the disability like wheelchairs etc.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

1 hour ago, Around the Horn said:

Add: Bay Ridge Av 

 

 

What's up with the tiling in the second turnstile? 

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

1 hour ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

What's up with the tiling in the second turnstile? 

Looks like an accessibility marking leading to the exit

[rwes]

14 hours ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said:

Some good and bad news according to the CPOC materials released today (excusethe mobile formatting) 

1. Reader installation will be complete by year end on subways and busses. SBS will have all door boarding. No word on ADB for other routes

2. Phase 3 and 4 pushed back by more than a year. More details below

3. Next six months will bring the following:

Closed loop pilot (aka OMNY card testing) 

Time or trip based testing using credit/ debit (bank) cards, with sales via site and app

Mobile app beta

4. Phase 3: Retail network for OMNY card begins rollout in July 2021

5. Phase 3: Reduced fare by September 2021

6. LIRR/MNR rollout by June 2022

7. New vending machines in 2023

 

Source https://new.mta.info/document/23941

 

Yeah definitely appreciate the update! I had read or interpreted incorrectly that there wouldn't be a mobile app and was wondering about that.

Will have to see if Wageworks beats the mobile app (full or beta) with an actual contactless card or mobile wallet support.

Hopefully they do an open (to the public) beta of sorts.

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

17 hours ago, mikecintel said:

Ugh I can't believe they don't have a word for All Door Boarding.  

It will be implemented in the near future otherwise they wouldnt have modified the contract to buy and install more readers at the rear doors. 

3 hours ago, rwes said:

Yeah definitely appreciate the update! I had read or interpreted incorrectly that there wouldn't be a mobile app and was wondering about that.

Will have to see if Wageworks beats the mobile app (full or beta) with an actual contactless card or mobile wallet support.

Hopefully they do an open (to the public) beta of sorts.

The virtual OMNY card was what they dropped in the last update. 

 

Also the no ADB update is ambiguous, here's how it literally reads in the document. If they left out a bullet then it could mean it will launch in December. Otherwise only SBS will have it. 

 

Remaining OMNY Bus Launches by Dec 2020
• Queens
• Brooklyn
• Including Select Bus Service (“SBS”)
All Door Boarding

[mikecintel]

3 hours ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said:

It will be implemented in the near future otherwise they wouldnt have modified the contract to buy and install more readers at the rear doors. 

The virtual OMNY card was what they dropped in the last update. 

 

Also the no ADB update is ambiguous, here's how it literally reads in the document. If they left out a bullet then it could mean it will launch in December. Otherwise only SBS will have it. 

 

Remaining OMNY Bus Launches by Dec 2020
• Queens
• Brooklyn
• Including Select Bus Service (“SBS”)
All Door Boarding

OK thanks I see about the All Door Boarding.

[rwes]

7 hours ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said:

It will be implemented in the near future otherwise they wouldnt have modified the contract to buy and install more readers at the rear doors. 

The virtual OMNY card was what they dropped in the last update. 

 

Also the no ADB update is ambiguous, here's how it literally reads in the document. If they left out a bullet then it could mean it will launch in December. Otherwise only SBS will have it. 

 

Remaining OMNY Bus Launches by Dec 2020
• Queens
• Brooklyn
• Including Select Bus Service (“SBS”)
All Door Boarding

Ah, right you are and that is what I was thinking of then; I’ll stop considering the two one in the same. But does that mean the mobile app wouldnt directly support tap do you know/think?

If it’s like hop fastpass, maybe a physical card can be added and provisioned in a wallet for use, but a virtual card cannot be provisioned from scratch?

Guess we’ll have to wait and see what it all looks like.

[RedLine]

Avenue I has readers even though the site says it does not.

[Kamen Rider]

official list Adds Bay Ridge Ave and Aqueduct Racetrack

[Kamen Rider]

Add:

59th-4th ave

The R is Complete!

Also, over on the A

111th & Lefferts Blvd 

 

we’re down to less than 10% of stations.

[bobtehpanda]

On 11/13/2020 at 4:18 PM, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

What's up with the tiling in the second turnstile? 

That kind of thing is really common in Japan to mark paths for the blind.

Japan actually installs it on regular sidewalks, not just at train stations.

[Kamen Rider]

ADD

Broad Channel (Rockaway Shuttle is complete)

Beach 67th

Beach 60th

Beach 44th

Beach 36th

Beach 25th 

Far Rockaway

[Kamen Rider]

First Ave is once again listed as online (meaning Manhattan is back up to 100%)

joining it for the first time is 75th on the J 

(there are only five stations left in Queens, all in the Woodhaven area, two on the J and three on the A)

[Kamen Rider]

ADD

50th Street

55th Street

18th Avenue.

 

OMNY has arrived on the West End.

 

[Kamen Rider]

ADD:

Fort Hamilton Parkway 

25th Ave

Bay 50th 

 

some lines have only a few stragglers. God we are so close.

[Kamen Rider]

I think we are officially at the point where it's easier to list the stations that are NOT online according to OMNY's master list.

 

 &   Eastern Parkway-Brooklyn Museum

  Rockaway Blvd, 104th Street, Aqueduct-North Conduit

 9th Ave, 62nd Street, Bay Parkway

 Avenue I

 Entire Sea Beach Line

 Bedford Ave, Livonia Ave, Rockaway Parkway

121st, 85th, Flushing and Hewes are in active on the Jamaica El. 

The  needs all four to be complete, the  needs the last two and the  needs 121st officially.

 

Ether way, less than 25 stations away from completion. 

 

[danielhg121]

Apart from the   and the Eastern Parkway station, why aren't the rest of the stops done? 

[Via Garibaldi 8]

14 hours ago, danielhg121 said:

Apart from the   and the Eastern Parkway station, why aren't the rest of the stops done? 

As has been said before, the plan was always to roll out OMNY in stages because they are focused on reliability and security, so they are still on schedule with the implementation of OMNY, and they are going in the order that works with their timeline. Simple as that. I will say that so far, the subway stations I have used OMNY at have worked. I would rather they have it done right, then rush it and it turns out a mess, which is what seems to be the case with the express buses.

[danielhg121]

2 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

As has been said before, the plan was always to roll out OMNY in stages because they are focused on reliability and security, so they are still on schedule with the implementation of OMNY, and they are going in the order that works with their timeline. Simple as that. I will say that so far, the subway stations I have used OMNY at have worked. I would rather they have it done right, then rush it and it turns out a mess, which is what seems to be the case with the express buses.

I'm just curious why they do some sections and then leave some stations alone. It stands out like a sore thumb when you have one stop go unfilled on an otherwise, fully OMNY-enabled line. I know for Eastern Parkway, they're redoing something at the station so it would be a waste to install and then take it out and install it down the line. You have stops that are still not done even though they've announced the line was fully-OMNY enabled.  

Edited December 5, 2020 by danielhg121

[Via Garibaldi 8]

6 minutes ago, danielhg121 said:

I'm just curious why they do some sections and then leave some stations alone. It stands out like a sore thumb when you have one stop go unfilled on an otherwise, fully OMNY-enabled line. I know for Eastern Parkway, they're redoing something at the station so it would be a waste to install and then take it out and install it down the line. You have stops that are still not done even though they've announce the line was fully-OMNY enabled.  

Well some of it could be an oversight. They also announced that ALL Bronx express buses have OMNY. HOWEVER, on the BxM9, some express buses come from College Point Depot, and those buses don't have OMNY readers. When I inquired about it a few weeks ago, the response was that they were sorry about the mix-up, and that it would be fixed soon, as Queens will eventually come online.

Long story short, there are a number of reasons. Some related to the timeline, some related to people rolling this out that don't necessarily use the system as much as some of us do. I'm sure when they rolled out the ads for OMNY being in the Bronx, they didn't even realized that College Point runs some buses in the Bronx, but I can tell you that as early as last week, I've been told that the plan is for Queens and Brooklyn buses to be rolled out with OMNY by the end of this year, so that means the remaining subway stations can't be far off either. 

Edited December 5, 2020 by Via Garibaldi 8