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As the technology improves and becomes more reliable and catches on. It's slowly getting there. (From a few decades ago when there were almost no EV's out there).

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3 hours ago, BrightlinerNewFlyer said:

Will they ever exist? I know there are 10 demo buses, but will there ever be real big fleets of them?

By 2040, the MTA bus fleet will be all electric.

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9 hours ago, JeremiahC99 said:

By 2040, the MTA bus fleet will be all electric.

And you guys will be paying $5.00 on your OMNY cards, double your current home electric rates, and Sanitation trucks will be tooling around running diesel still. (Most of Europe is currently paying double their electric rates -- plus peak/off-peak pricing schemes -- and they went all-in on "renewable" energy which was promised to lower their rates.)

No new generation facilities (power plants) are on the horizon, and then there's that "movement" that wants to shut down/decommission the nuclear plant that feeds NYC their juice. Plus the whole CNG pipeline hoo-hah going on currently.

Utopia never comes, but go ahead and keep hoping. Pretty certain we'll be doing fine on our diesel and/or "hybrid" buses in my neck-o-the-woods.

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On May 28, 2019 at 9:12 AM, DetSMART45 said:

Utopia never comes, but go ahead and keep hoping. Pretty certain we'll be doing fine on our diesel and/or "hybrid" buses in my neck-o-the-woods.

That's if the manufacturers still make diesel buses in 2040...

New Flyer, Nova, you name it, they're all making moves to discontinue diesel in the next 20 years or so and go all alternative fuel (hydrogen fuel cell, battery electric, etc)...

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All it would take is Federal funding to get chopped, and if the MTA would be on the hook for almost all of the costs, the program would be modified. Australia had the same government "incentives" as us for people to get electric vehicles, then they pulled the program. Result? Electric vehicle sales dropped like a rock.

Besides, NYC electric rates will surely be going up, because outstate communities are fighting tooth and nail against solar/wind farms (none being built currently), and some type of generating capacity is going to be needed pronto once the nuclear plant is closed (and that's happening in the next few months).

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