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American Dream Meadowlands to open Oct 24

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How much would it cost to take the 320 and transfer to the 85?  

The wording on the schedules is not clear. The PDF says a one-zone transfer is $0.75. Does that mean on the connecting bus you can only ride within the zone you've boarded? Or does that mean you can only cross one zone?

 

I looked further on the site:

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TRANSFERS AND CONTINUING TRIP TICKETS
Transfers can be purchased from any bus operator for intrastate travel (within New Jersey) and are valid for two hours after issued. Transfers are valid for a ride using a second bus or light rail service for a one-zone ride. For travel beyond one zone on the second bus, there will be an additional charge. Transfers are not available for travel to or from New York City or Philadelphia.

Customers transferring from light rail to bus should purchase a one-way, one-zone with transfer ticket from a light rail ticket vending machine before boarding the light rail vehicle.

A limited number of connecting bus routes and Newark Light Rail offer continuing trip ticket privileges, which permit a customer to pay the entire one-way fare for a two-vehicle ride when boarding the first bus/light rail vehicle.

So basically you'd have to pay two separate fares for the 320 and 85?

If so, that would be $4.25 + $2.55 = $6.80 each way. ($13.60 round trip.)  

On a side note, PATH to the 85 would be $2.75 + $3.15 = $5.90 ($11.80 Round Trip)

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You guys have done the work as far as figuring the game/other options as far as getting to the Mega Mall from New York and points in northern New Jersey. Smart you guys outline the fare stuctures. Alot of people including most tourists are simple mind hence they'll pay the ridiculous $9.00 fare. The smart ones will get around it by saving cash using other options that NJ Transit doesn't want to mention to the public. It just boils down to are individuals have the patience to do the transfers and waiting time other than direct service NYC speaking. 

As far as the 160, unfortunately it doesn't stop at the American Dream transit hub. Only serving Metlife and Race track. That will really mess up the fare structure of the 160 if it stops there at the mall from NYC. People wouldn't even take the 355. Also, Market Street don't have 45 footers. I assume Meadowlands Garage will use there 45 footer MCIs on that route with occasional D4000s depending on equipment availability. 

It's funny how New York Waterway Ferry Service is joining in. Good for those residents living in Weehawken and those that take bus 158 from Fort Lee and Edgewater. 

I think the 85 route may see a huge jump in ridership to the point of revising the schedule to every 15 to 20 minutes. Imagine the crowds in Hoboken, Jersey City Heights and Union City (transfer point from other NJTbuses and jitneys) and Mill Creek shops, but with the hotels in that area on that route. Crushing loads. We all know NJT supervisors will be out in tow at multiple busy bus stops long the route. Perhaps with there pen and pad like those at the PABT writing the number of riders boarding each route. 

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15 hours ago, mfs NJT459 said:

NJT seeking assistance from the private sector on a possible Automated People Mover system from Secaucus Junction to Meadowlands and American Dream

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-jersey-seeks-private-transit-help-for-mall-in-meadowlands-11571261704

https://www.njtransit.com/challenge

There goes the idea of the HBLR being extended to the Meadowlands out the window, for now

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On 10/17/2019 at 3:07 PM, Silver Script said:

Over on mybusnow, they have the 355 and 356 already.

 

No schedules yet though.

They're on the transit app also, and they have the schedules. 

 

355 - 30 min headway weekdays, 20 min headway weekends

Hours of service: 8:00-23:00 

 

356 - 30 min headway mostly

Hours of service: 8:00-23:30 (23:50 weekends)

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I was at hoboken terminal yesterday morning and saw the line for the 85 bus to american dream. Long line, as expected. This is only going to get worse.

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2 hours ago, dkm07302 said:

I was at hoboken terminal yesterday morning and saw the line for the 85 bus to american dream. Long line, as expected. This is only going to get worse.

Like I said before here on this topic, the NJT supervisors should be out there making sure things goes smoothly for both the driver and passengers along with doing a passenger count from Hoboken Terminal and Union City 32nd St and Bergenline and American Dream. NJ Transit might have to increase service levels on the 85 to every 20 minutes to relieve overcrowding. That bus route has alot of hot spots of riders in Hoboken, Jersey City, Union City and Mill Creek area of shops and hotels.

One other thing, NJ Transit and the media that understands NJT operations ought to know full well that those 3 local lines that serve the Mega Mall primarily for the employees inthe urban cities and some small towns, will get a vast amount of riders that will shop and look around inside the mall. You said it dkm07302...the 85 you saw with long lines is just an example.

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On 10/28/2019 at 12:45 AM, BreeddekalbL said:

I saw the fare to the American dream. Ridiculous, I can ride to union much cheaper

Another option and cheaper way to get to the Mega Mall from New York City is line 160. It's $4.50 one way I believe, but the thing is you have to do some walking along MetLife Stadium then walk on the pedestrian bridge over rte 120 to get to the mall. That's if you don't want to oay a ridiculous $18.00 round-trip fare. Nine bucks one way is like a 7 to 8 zone ride to New York if I'm not mistaken 

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18 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Can I buy bus tickets at Hoboken or do I have to pay with cash on the bus?

I recommend buying a ticket in the NJ Transit app

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Well, I’ve heard that Meadowlands Garage is gonna have a new pick (if I make this out correctly) in response to the fact that the American Dream buses are carrying nothing but air for right now.  

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It was a smart choice to not start train service. Very little demand at AD right now with just the theme park open - and they still havent gotten their 2 big coasters running.

They even cut 2 operating hours.

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