WestFarms36 Posted July 26, 2019 Share #26 Posted July 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, paulrivera said: Just yesterday the service wasn’t popular because everyone had their own phones with their own data. For better or for worse, the is proving the governor right. They tried to pull a fast one by sneak cutting one of his babies and they got caught. Then they complain when Cuomo chastises the MTA on TV. The battles the governor chooses to fight the MTA about might not be the best ones to be fighting about, but that’s a whole other discussion. I tell you, this is just hilarious. thought no one was watching, til Cuomo got the earful about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted July 26, 2019 Share #27 Posted July 26, 2019 13 hours ago, WestFarms36 said: I tell you, this is just hilarious. thought no one was watching, til Cuomo got the earful about it. ... Too bad they approve the reorganization plan and possibly Andy Byford's job.. We are slowly approaching the New York City transit authority of the 1970's and 1980's with the help of The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 26, 2019 Share #28 Posted July 26, 2019 I'm on the MTA Wifi right now on the QM6 and it is working beautifully...I see three other folks on their laptops as well connected to it rather than a personal hotspot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestFarms36 Posted July 26, 2019 Share #29 Posted July 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: I'm on the MTA Wifi right now on the QM6 and it is working beautifully...I see three other folks on their laptops as well connected to it rather than a personal hotspot. That's good to see. I guess just needs to toughen up on the WIFI and make sure it is ALWAYS WORKING and work out with Verizon to Iron out the kinks and make it faster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 26, 2019 Share #30 Posted July 26, 2019 From my experience mainly on express buses, the Wi-Fi reception had a tendency to be worse than my own LTE signal. The only group of people I see this taking this bad are the folks who don't have unlimited data plans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 26, 2019 Share #31 Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Cait Sith said: From my experience mainly on express buses, the Wi-Fi reception had a tendency to be worse than my own LTE signal. The only group of people I see this taking this bad are the folks who don't have unlimited data plans. I have unlimited on my phone, but my plan severely restricts tethering to my laptop, which is where I do most of my work. That's why the MTA wifi has come in very handy for me. The initial reception issues have largely been resolved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 26, 2019 Share #32 Posted July 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: I have unlimited on my phone, but my plan severely restricts tethering to my laptop, which is where I do most of my work. That's why the MTA wifi has come in very handy for me. The initial reception issues have largely been resolved. Not to worry... It's here to stay... https://thecity.nyc/2019/07/mta-sends-scrambled-signals-on-little-used-usd2-5m-bus-wi-fi.html?utm_content=buffer37121&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer&fbclid=IwAR0mPYqtjcOcK5KY07GXEqEv-pUrAikseTTnN3Lhsr8POMac1lV84xzVNr0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 27, 2019 Share #33 Posted July 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Future ENY OP said: ... Too bad they approve the reorganization plan and possibly Andy Byford's job.. We are slowly approaching the New York City transit authority of the 1970's and 1980's with the help of The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Except the Port Authority hasn't quite been the same since 9/11 and are going through their own capital projects (PATH and PABT mainly) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil 57 Posted July 27, 2019 Share #34 Posted July 27, 2019 Alot of times it would take 20-30 minutes after I get on the bus for my phone to detect the WiFi and ask me to sign in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 27, 2019 Share #35 Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lil 57 said: Alot of times it would take 20-30 minutes after I get on the bus for my phone to detect the WiFi and ask me to sign in. I've noticed the same thing at times, especially with IPhones. I usually manually go to my wifi settings and choose the network from the list. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted July 27, 2019 Share #36 Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: Not to worry... It's here to stay... https://thecity.nyc/2019/07/mta-sends-scrambled-signals-on-little-used-usd2-5m-bus-wi-fi.html?utm_content=buffer37121&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer&fbclid=IwAR0mPYqtjcOcK5KY07GXEqEv-pUrAikseTTnN3Lhsr8POMac1lV84xzVNr0 It might last on express buses where demand is kind of high for it, but on all other buses. I still think it's going the way of the dodo, it's costly, cosmetic and little used to begin with. This is the last thing the agency should focus on. Edited July 27, 2019 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 27, 2019 Share #37 Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: It might last on express buses where demand is kind of high for it, but on all other buses. I still think it's going the way of the dodo, it's costly, cosmetic and little used to begin with. This is the last thing the agency should focus on. I personally don't use it. I have Verizon unlimited for my iPad and cell phone, but some people use it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 27, 2019 Share #38 Posted July 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: It might last on express buses where demand is kind of high for it, but on all other buses. I still think it's going the way of the dodo, it's costly, cosmetic and little used to begin with. This is the last thing the agency should focus on. Also, the MTA is paying $5 per GB. That’s over $100 for most users mobile limits (22GB) and $1000 to reach the equivalent of Comcast’s data limit (1TB). in other words, most of us are paying less for our own data than the MTA does. I pay $25 for 1GB high speed (grandfathered plan) but whatever, I still get unlimited talk and text. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil 57 Posted July 27, 2019 Share #39 Posted July 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, paulrivera said: Also, the MTA is paying $5 per GB. That's probably why sites like YouTube don't work. Video streaming uses a lot of data so the blocks it so they're not paying a ton of money every day for WiFi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 27, 2019 Share #40 Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Lil 57 said: That's probably why sites like YouTube don't work. Video streaming uses a lot of data so the blocks it so they're not paying a ton of money every day for WiFi. The average video stream goes 3 mbps, which if you do the math would cost the MTA 2 cents per second, $1.20 per minute, and $72 per hour. Holy shit, that would be like Access-A-Ride levels of financial bleeding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetSMART45 Posted July 27, 2019 Share #41 Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, paulrivera said: Also, the MTA is paying $5 per GB. That’s over $100 for most users mobile limits (22GB) and $1000 to reach the equivalent of Comcast’s data limit (1TB). in other words, most of us are paying less for our own data than the MTA does. I pay $25 for 1GB high speed (grandfathered plan) but whatever, I still get unlimited talk and text. Where has it been stated that the MTA is paying the $5/GB figure? I saw that tweet in the story linked above (and nothing in the story, if it's such a shocking revelation), and no sources cited. Even though the MTA certainly excels at incompetence, I just can't fathom a figure such as that even remotely being found "fair and reasonable" during negotiations. Anyone seriously want to tell me that whoever's dealing with this Verizon contract from an RFP isn't going to be told by "MTA Enterprise" (or whatever their IT department is called) the cost for internal wireless services, with everything from the devices issued to people on the ground to the bus WiFi for location information (i.e. BusTime), to provide a jumping-off point for their contract? According to this audit from the Comptroller from June 2018, the contract was approved in December 2015. I know I have the Book from then on another harddrive, and MTA has scrubbed access to it even via Wayback Machine. Maybe someone could dig it out and see what the BAFO was -- I still don't think that $5/GB is going to be there. @Union Tpke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share #42 Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 7:34 PM, Via Garibaldi 8 said: Not to worry... It's here to stay... https://thecity.nyc/2019/07/mta-sends-scrambled-signals-on-little-used-usd2-5m-bus-wi-fi.html?utm_content=buffer37121&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer&fbclid=IwAR0mPYqtjcOcK5KY07GXEqEv-pUrAikseTTnN3Lhsr8POMac1lV84xzVNr0 I tipped him onto that story. 22 hours ago, DetSMART45 said: Where has it been stated that the MTA is paying the $5/GB figure? I saw that tweet in the story linked above (and nothing in the story, if it's such a shocking revelation), and no sources cited. Even though the MTA certainly excels at incompetence, I just can't fathom a figure such as that even remotely being found "fair and reasonable" during negotiations. Anyone seriously want to tell me that whoever's dealing with this Verizon contract from an RFP isn't going to be told by "MTA Enterprise" (or whatever their IT department is called) the cost for internal wireless services, with everything from the devices issued to people on the ground to the bus WiFi for location information (i.e. BusTime), to provide a jumping-off point for their contract? According to this audit from the Comptroller from June 2018, the contract was approved in December 2015. I know I have the Book from then on another harddrive, and MTA has scrubbed access to it even via Wayback Machine. Maybe someone could dig it out and see what the BAFO was -- I still don't think that $5/GB is going to be there. @Union Tpke Which month? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetSMART45 Posted July 28, 2019 Share #43 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Union Tpke said: Which month? The comptroller PDF from June 2018 leads off with saying the contract was inked in December 2015, ahead of the Cuomo 2016 new livery/buses/WiFi public statements. I know I have all of 2015's Books on another harddrive (not mounted right now), but the MTA has scrubbed access on their "current" archive, as well as deleting it from being found by Wayback Machine. It appears that it would be in the December 2015 Bus Committee book (if that's when the Board ratified it), but could also be in November 2015. Edited July 28, 2019 by DetSMART45 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share #44 Posted July 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, DetSMART45 said: The comptroller PDF from June 2018 leads off with saying the contract was inked in December 2015, ahead of the Cuomo 2016 new livery/buses/WiFi public statements. I know I have all of 2015's Books on another harddrive (not mounted right now), but the MTA has scrubbed access on their "current" archive, as well as deleting it from being found by Wayback Machine. It appears that it would be in the December 2015 Bus Committee book (if that's when the Board ratified it), but could also be in November 2015. I don't see anything from here: http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/archive/151116_1000_Transit&BUS.pdf or here: http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/archive/151214_1030_Transit&Bus.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetSMART45 Posted July 28, 2019 Share #45 Posted July 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: I don't see anything from here: http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/archive/151116_1000_Transit&BUS.pdf or here: http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/archive/151214_1030_Transit&Bus.pdf Thanks, I'll explore further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted July 30, 2019 Share #46 Posted July 30, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 11:59 PM, Mtatransit said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/mta-proposes-eliminating-special-holiday-service-on-commuter-rail-11564100625 MTA says that putting the elimination of Bus WiFi in the budget cuts was a mistake. I'm not laughing at you...I'm laughing at the MTA's credibility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted August 25, 2019 Share #47 Posted August 25, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 9:44 PM, paulrivera said: Might as well go back to the blue stripe paint scheme at that point. So why go with the blue & yellow scheme if they’re to remove WiFi service on buses? That’s more money they have to spend on doing that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 25, 2019 Share #48 Posted August 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: So why go with the blue & yellow scheme if they’re to remove WiFi service on buses? That’s more money they have to spend on doing that. OMG... Some people don't understand sarcasm... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestFarms36 Posted August 25, 2019 Share #49 Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, FLX9304 said: So why go with the blue & yellow scheme if they’re to remove WiFi service on buses? That’s more money they have to spend on doing that. Well read above, from post #32 and down. You have been living under a big rock with this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted September 7, 2019 Share #50 Posted September 7, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 9:44 PM, paulrivera said: Might as well go back to the blue stripe paint scheme at that point. In that livery, that bus actually had Wi-Fi and USB...it just wasn't advertised externally. It more likely was that the MTA hadn't figured out how to apply the new livery to an LFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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