Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 12, 2019 REPORT: The Bronx’s Westchester Square & Cypress Avenue Stations on the 6 Among City’s Most Deteriorated NEWS AUGUST 12, 2019 A new report released by New York State Comptroller Tom DiNapoli this passed Friday reveals that as of 2017, not one of The Bronx’s 70 subway stations were in good condition with each one showing structural deficiencies in one form or another. According to the report, this is an increase from 2012 when 12 stations were reported to be in good standing. Westchester Square and Cypress Avenue along the 6 line were among the top 5 worst stations in New York City where conditions structural and architectural components were seen to have had a rapid decline since the last report in 2012 according to the Daily News. Westchester Square Station on the 6 line is among the city’s worst subway stations according to a report issued by NYS Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli The report also stated that half of the structural components at the 149th Street and Grand Concourse station on the 4 line needed repair (the comptroller’s report made it unclear if it was specific to just the 4 platform or the entire 2/4/5 station). DiNapoli issued the following statement in a press release: “Years of underfunding for the MTA capital program has translated into a longer list of needed repairs in New York City’s subway stations, fewer stations in good condition, and ever-increasing rider aggravation,” DiNapoli said. “The rising number of potentially hazardous worn or damaged platform edges is particularly troubling. On the plus side, the MTA has been able to reduce the number of the most serious station defects, but a lot more needs to be done to address declining station conditions. It is up to the MTA to prioritize its limited resources to ensure its next capital program improves service and conditions for riders.” Source: https://welcome2thebronx.com/2019/08/12/report-the-bronxs-westchester-square-cypress-avenue-stations-on-the-6-among-citys-most-deteriorated/?fbclid=IwAR1liaLaRZVHcallZIR2aUw-26gs-3LDTsUN-jmNApS5CZMm-WWdnSvkeTo Full Comptroller's Report: https://www.osc.state.ny.us/press/releases/aug19/080919.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgorithmOfTruth Posted August 12, 2019 Share #2 Posted August 12, 2019 Speaking of stations along the , have they visited the 3rd Avenue–138th Street Station? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, AlgorithmOfTruth said: Speaking of stations along the , have they visited the 3rd Avenue–138th Street Station? It says all 70 Bronx stations, so that means yes they have.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #4 Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) This is an interesting report that makes me wonder how many other stations outside The Bronx are structurally deficient. I’m sure there are plenty of others. Edited August 12, 2019 by NewFlyer 230 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted August 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: This is an interesting report that makes me wonder how many other stations outside The Bronx are structurally deficient. I’m sure there are plenty of others. Definitely... Just look at the line alone... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #6 Posted August 12, 2019 Scary. One of my biggest fears is being in an elevated station and the stairs or platform collapsing while I'm on it. What crazy is most of the elevated stations in the BX recently got renovated.. Can't wait until they do Broadway Junction, that station is a whole lot of steel.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 12, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: Can't wait until they do Broadway Junction, that station is a whole lot of steel.. Broadway Junction needs a Redesign in order to meet ADA Standards and improve circulation throughout the station. As for ALL 70 stations being Structurally deficient, that makes the Bronx and the look very, very bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 12, 2019 Share #8 Posted August 12, 2019 Didn’t they just do work on a bunch of stations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 12, 2019 Share #9 Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: Scary. One of my biggest fears is being in an elevated station and the stairs or platform collapsing while I'm on it. From what I read, it doesn't sound like anything is in danger of collapsing. It's just more and more of the stations becoming ever more decrepit. 20 minutes ago, CenSin said: Didn’t they just do work on a bunch of stations? That's what makes this all the more concerning. For example all of the Pelham elevated stations except Westchester Sq were rehabbed in the last five - ten years. To have all that work rendered useless in such a short span of time is telling. Where is the money for these renovations going because it's obviously not being used for long-lasting materials. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Lance said: That's what makes this all the more concerning. For example all of the Pelham elevated stations except Westchester Sq were rehabbed in the last five - ten years. To have all that work rendered useless in such a short span of time is telling. Where is the money for these renovations going because it's obviously not being used for long-lasting materials. The construction costs are bloated, and the is known for not only settling with the lowest vendor (which isn't saying much given that everyone jacks up their prices), but also buying the cheapest materials, so the work is done and then it has to be re-done again before you know it. It's pretty crazy... The other thing is there isn't ongoing upkeep with these stations. Once the work is done they leave it, or sometimes they just don't even do demolition. There are a number of stations that they literally just tiled over, and the tiles are now coming up for obvious reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted August 13, 2019 Share #11 Posted August 13, 2019 I feel like the MTA focuses the renovation more on cosmetic than structrual. The ESP actually went overbudget because they fixed some structural issues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 13, 2019 Share #12 Posted August 13, 2019 12 hours ago, Lance said: That's what makes this all the more concerning. For example all of the Pelham elevated stations except Westchester Sq were rehabbed in the last five - ten years. To have all that work rendered useless in such a short span of time is telling. Where is the money for these renovations going because it's obviously not being used for long-lasting materials. Perhaps the tunnel repair project Cummo gave to Columbia was for the better then. …unless they are also somehow a part of the corrupt union-contractor-bureaucracy complex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 13, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, CenSin said: Perhaps the tunnel repair project Cummo gave to Columbia was for the better then. …unless they are also somehow a part of the corrupt union-contractor-bureaucracy complex. Yeah, no. Those fools couldn't be bothered to give a shit about quality work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italianstallion Posted August 13, 2019 Share #14 Posted August 13, 2019 The other boroughs weren't much better (see below). That said, the Comptroller's criteria seem to be whether a component is "worn or damaged." "Worn" covers a lot of ground, including much that may be trivial. "Only 8 of the 150 stations in Manhattan (including 4 that recently opened) had all of their structural components in good condition, compared with 15 in 2012. While 78 percent of the structural components at the Times Square shuttle station were in need of repair, NYCT hopes to reduce the share to 33 percent with the completion of the 2015-2019 capital program. "In Brooklyn, only 11 of 170 stations were in good repair, compared with 29 in 2012. More than two- thirds of the structural components at the Borough Hall station on the No. 2/3 line were worn or damaged. "None of the 70 stations in the Bronx had all of their structural components in good repair, whereas 12 did in 2012. Half of the structural components at the 149th Street station (Grand Concourse) on the No. 4 line needed repair. "While Queens had the largest share of structural components in disrepair, the borough also had more stations in good repair than five years earlier. NYCT reported that all of the structural components in 12 of 81 stations were in good repair, up from 1 in 2012. However, 45 percent of the structural components at the Main Street station on the No. 7 line, the most heavily used station in Queens, were worn or damaged." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted August 14, 2019 Share #15 Posted August 14, 2019 18 hours ago, CenSin said: Perhaps the tunnel repair project Cummo gave to Columbia was for the better then. …unless they are also somehow a part of the corrupt union-contractor-bureaucracy complex. If the solution to no accountability was other people who had no accountability, sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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