Suydam Street Posted December 4, 2020 Share #251 Posted December 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: One of the New Flyers is receiving a new transmission and/or trailer. They aint even that old yet to be breaking down 🤣 Also, has anyone else noticed that some Xcelsiors are better built then others? here's the answer What is the importance of burn in testing? Burn-in tests allow detecting problem trends so as to prevent usage of reliability-critical components. Burn-in is the backbone of parts screening, the major vehicle to eliminate defective parts at the early phase of the product life and to ensure product reliability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted December 4, 2020 Share #252 Posted December 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Suydam Street said: here's the answer What is the importance of burn in testing? Burn-in tests allow detecting problem trends so as to prevent usage of reliability-critical components. Burn-in is the backbone of parts screening, the major vehicle to eliminate defective parts at the early phase of the product life and to ensure product reliability. Thats not what I was talking about. New Flyer tends to have quality issues with buses depending on what day of the week their manufactured and/or what facility they come from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go25 Posted December 4, 2020 Share #253 Posted December 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Suydam Street said: here's the answer What is the importance of burn in testing? Burn-in tests allow detecting problem trends so as to prevent usage of reliability-critical components. Burn-in is the backbone of parts screening, the major vehicle to eliminate defective parts at the early phase of the product life and to ensure product reliability. Preventative maintenance, in a nutshell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemackey Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share #254 Posted December 7, 2020 20897 on its way to Netcong. Was spotted on I-90 in Wisconsin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 7, 2020 Share #255 Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 10:24 PM, Lawrence St said: One of the New Flyers is receiving a new transmission and/or trailer. They aint even that old yet to be breaking down 🤣 Also, has anyone else noticed that some Xcelsiors are better built then others? It was neither of that.....the transmission was fine, and if they needed a new trailer end, they'd have to return that bus, not do it in-house... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted December 7, 2020 Share #256 Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Cait Sith said: It was neither of that.....the transmission was fine, and if they needed a new trailer end, they'd have to return that bus, not do it in-house... I'm just reading what I see off the NJT FB group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 7, 2020 Share #257 Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: I'm just reading what I see off the NJT FB group. A lot of us are in that group. Don't take what's being said there seriously. Also, it was getting a new rear end differential, big difference to what you interpreted. Edited December 7, 2020 by Cait Sith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted December 9, 2020 Share #258 Posted December 9, 2020 On 12/6/2020 at 10:22 PM, Cait Sith said: A lot of us are in that group. Don't take what's being said there seriously. Also, it was getting a new rear end differential, big difference to what you interpreted. If you don’t know what a rear differential is don’t speak lol. It amazes me the information I see posted. NJT buses go through rear differentials quick. Like with the MCIS, the rear bellows have a 18mo life span but 319 Lav buses and Wayne buses are cut in 1/2 because of the terrain Wayne travels and the heavy usage on the 319 lavs. What I will say the last quality built MCIS was the CNGS and Hybrids. Everything after has been nothing but problematic. These new flyers they will have issues especially with alternator belts, power issues. Njt tends to over-govern there buses at CMF. Cummins can’t take that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1train2255railfan Posted December 13, 2020 Share #259 Posted December 13, 2020 20874 is in service on the 159 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLiu15 Posted December 13, 2020 Share #260 Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, 1train2255railfan said: 20874 is in service on the 159 It's been in service for a while now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemackey Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share #261 Posted December 13, 2020 20872 is now in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted December 15, 2020 Share #262 Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 10:58 PM, Suydam Street said: here's the answer What is the importance of burn in testing? Burn-in tests allow detecting problem trends so as to prevent usage of reliability-critical components. Burn-in is the backbone of parts screening, the major vehicle to eliminate defective parts at the early phase of the product life and to ensure product reliability. We don’t burn-in new buses. That’s what 20801 was for to find any issues. Production models after that already had necessary issues fixed but the problem with mass production no one bus is created equal. 16001 demo for 17000s 16002 will never see passenger service 16003 demo for 18000s/19000s 17185 demo for Cummins x12 buses 19150s on up. 4009 demo for 4008, 4010-4044 7501-7503(102-DW3SS) demos for 40ft mcis 8200 demo for 45ft mcis 7278 demo for 45ft Cngs No production model buses will burn-in they come and go straight into service. Whatever issue is found then the bus is sent to cmf or Cummins or mci comes to the garage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted December 15, 2020 Share #263 Posted December 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, 553 Bridgeton said: 16002 will never see passenger service Is there a reason why 16002 won't be in passenger service? Will it go back to MCI? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemackey Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share #264 Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, GojiMet86 said: Is there a reason why 16002 won't be in passenger service? Will it go back to MCI? 16002 is used as a maintenance training bus. It had been running in Academy paint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemackey Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share #265 Posted December 15, 2020 20886, 20888 and 20889 inspected today - at Hilton Garage. Hmmm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLiu15 Posted December 16, 2020 Share #266 Posted December 16, 2020 6 hours ago, davemackey said: 20886, 20888 and 20889 inspected today - at Hilton Garage. Hmmm. Guessing Meadowlands doesn't need 30 artics... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 16, 2020 Share #267 Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, JLiu15 said: Guessing Meadowlands doesn't need 30 artics... Better to just wait and see before speculating...lots of people speculated that Hilton's earlier batch would've stayed at Meadowlands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLiu15 Posted December 28, 2020 Share #268 Posted December 28, 2020 Hasn't been much info on the New Flyers for weeks now...anyone know when we might see more buses being delivered/entering service again? Maybe it's just the holidays and that's why there's been little news on them lately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted December 30, 2020 Share #269 Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/15/2020 at 9:23 PM, JLiu15 said: Guessing Meadowlands doesn't need 30 artics... The artic order is almost done only need about 20 more buses to get to 20910 the finally bus. Unless the option order of 85 buses is still in the works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemackey Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share #270 Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 20846 and 20848 running 159 which I believe is a Fairview route. Guess with Meadowlands getting the last batch of artics, they can start giving 20845-20849 back to Fairview. Edited December 31, 2020 by davemackey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted December 31, 2020 Share #271 Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, davemackey said: 20846 and 20848 running 159 which I believe is a Fairview route. Guess with Meadowlands getting the last batch of artics, they can start giving 20845-20849 back to Fairview. It's tough to tell. Meadowlands got some pieces of the 156/158/159 recently, so those buses may not have left there just yet. Edited December 31, 2020 by DaTransitMan4608 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1train2255railfan Posted December 31, 2020 Share #272 Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, davemackey said: 20846 and 20848 running 159 which I believe is a Fairview route. Guess with Meadowlands getting the last batch of artics, they can start giving 20845-20849 back to Fairview. Without 20845-20849, is the current in-service roster for Fairview so far 20850-20879? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted January 2, 2021 Share #273 Posted January 2, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 1:43 PM, davemackey said: 20846 and 20848 running 159 which I believe is a Fairview route. Guess with Meadowlands getting the last batch of artics, they can start giving 20845-20849 back to Fairview. Lately Meadowlands has been helping Fairview with those Routes...And i seen 20846 on the 126 just the other day....This covid has a lot of garages short on driver where as any garage might pop up on any Route...Last week i saw 5436 working the 87 out of market st....Go figure...Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare403 Posted January 4, 2021 Share #274 Posted January 4, 2021 20893 is tracking at factory 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemackey Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share #275 Posted January 5, 2021 20884 and 20885 are tracking at CMF so we may see them soon. 20884 in fact was tracking on Rt 25, which is a break-in run for many of the buses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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