What's Faster? - The Game

[Lawrence St]

A little game I created to test our transit knowledge to see what train is faster from Point A to Point B. The rules are; one person has to go at a time and include the two routes of their choice from Point A to Point B, and during what rush period you want (i.e AM, PM, weekends), I'll start off first;

What's Faster from 96th St to 14th St-Union Square?

The , or the ?

GO!

Edited November 26, 2019 by Lawrence St

[B35 via Church]

I get the point of the game, but you should've added a stipulation (like, during the AM rush only, PM rush only, weekends only, etc) to make the game a little more interesting....

Without running to the timetables & solely going off my own experiences, I still have to say the ....

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IDK, What's faster from 34th st - Herald Sq. to Stillwell av, the or the ?

[Lawrence St]

16 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

I get the point of the game, but you should've added a stipulation (like, during the AM rush only, PM rush only, weekends only, etc) to make the game a little more interesting....

Without running to the timetables & solely going off my own experiences, I still have to say the ....

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IDK, What's faster from 34th st - Herald Sq. to Stillwell av, the or the ?

Alright I'll add that in, thanks for the suggestion.

[Jdog14]

30 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

I get the point of the game, but you should've added a stipulation (like, during the AM rush only, PM rush only, weekends only, etc) to make the game a little more interesting....

Without running to the timetables & solely going off my own experiences, I still have to say the ....

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IDK, What's faster from 34th st - Herald Sq. to Stillwell av, the or the ?

 

I believe the D is the fastest but I could be wrong lol

[Lawrence St]

4 minutes ago, Jdog14 said:

 

I believe the D is the fastest but I could be wrong lol

Both trains get there at the same time, but the manages to get delayed a few minutes between Atlantic and Prospect Park because of the , so the is the correct answer.

[R68OnBroadway]

3 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Both trains get there at the same time, but the manages to get delayed a few minutes between Atlantic and Prospect Park because of the , so the is the correct answer.

In order of increasing time from 34th to CI, it goes  , right?

[Lawrence St]

57 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said:

In order of increasing time from 34th to CI, it goes  , right?

It depends on what day your talking about.

[Q23 via 108]

Whats faster? At 59 Street Columbus Circle. Which gets to Canal Street 1st. PM Weekday Rush Hour. 

 or . 59 St to Canal.

[R68OnBroadway]

1 hour ago, Q23 via 108 said:

Whats faster? At 59 Street Columbus Circle. Which gets to Canal Street 1st. PM Weekday Rush Hour. 

 or . 59 St to Canal.

Probably the  given its fewer stops 

[CenSin]

On 11/25/2019 at 11:30 PM, R68OnBroadway said:

In order of increasing time from 34th to CI, it goes  , right?

1. : 47 minutes
   • most speed gained from the relatively straight alignment, gentle curves, and skipped stations from Church Avenue to Jay Street–MetroTech
   • most speed lost from the numerous station stops south of Church Avenue and north of Jay Street–MetroTech
2. : 48~49 minutes
   • most speed gained from the relatively gentle curves and skipped station from 59 Street to 34 Street–Herald Square
   • most speed lost from the crooked alignment and numerous tight turns from Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center to DeKalb Avenue
3. : 51~52 minutes
   • most speed gained from the relatively straight alignment, gentle curves, and skipped stations in Manhattan
   • most speed lost from the numerous station stops and the numerous tight turns from Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center to DeKalb Avenue
4. : 52~53 minutes
   • most speed gained from the express run between Brooklyn and Manhattan
   • most speed lost from the numerous station stops, crooked alignment, and curves in Brooklyn
5. : 54 minutes
   • most speed gained from the relatively straight alignment and gentle curves
   • most speed lost from the numerous station stops—especially the busy ones

As you can see, they are all pretty tight. The maximum difference here is only 7 minutes between… the and . Much of the difference could be eaten up by passengers blocking doors, poor conditions on the road, or by unskilled crew members. (Example: The has taken 53 minutes despite optimal conditions along the road and no passengers blocking the doors!)

When there are problems, decisions about which trains to take depends on the problem area, which I taxonomize thusly:

• 6 Avenue local/Culver:
  • between Bergen Street and Avenue X: take the , , , , or / (in that order of priority).
  • south of Neptune Avenue or north of Bergen Street: do not take the /.
  • along Queens Boulevard involving rerouted trains: avoid the / and maybe the .
• Manhattan Bridge:
  • Astoria: avoid the and maybe the .
  • 2 Avenue: avoid the and maybe the .
  • Broadway:
    • between 57 Street–7 Avenue and DeKalb Avenue: take the /, , or (in that order of priority).
    • between Canal Street and Jay Street–MetroTech: avoid the and .
  • 6 Avenue express: take the , , (in that order of priority).
  • DeKalb Avenue: take the /.
  • Brighton:
    • north of Parkside Avenue: take the /, , or (in that order of priority).
    • Brighton express: take the /, , , or (in that order of priority).
    • Brighton local: take the /, , , (in that order of priority).
    • south of Ocean Parkway: do not take the and .
  • 4 Avenue:
    • between Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center and 9 Avenue: avoid the and .
    • between 9 Avenue and Bay 50 Street: avoid the .
    • between Bay 50 Street and Coney Island–Stillwell Avenue: do not take the and maybe avoid the .
    • between 59 Street and 8 Avenue: avoid the .
    • between 86 Street and Coney Island–Stillwell Avenue: do not take the and maybe avoid the .

There are a few compelling reasons to follow the above guidelines:

1. Problems on the are usually isolated from the and vice versa.
2. Problems in either borough’s trunks tend to spill over into the other borough depending on the duration, how long ago the problem occurred, and where it happened. A problem initially confined to Brighton local may quickly spread to engulf all Manhattan Bridge services, leaving only the / unaffected.
3. When problems along the 4-track trunks arise, trains are usually diverted, causing delays for the entire trunk due to cramming more service along less tracks.
   • An exception may be the along Culver, whose diversion usually results in same or faster service as the express tracks are presently underutilized.
   • Even if a reroute around the problem is imminent, chaos from passenger confusion will guarantee delays. It’s wise not to assume that a local-to-express diversion will result in a faster commute.

[Lawrence St]

What's faster?

The from 207th St to 42nd St, or the from 207th St to 42nd St during the AM rush?

[Jova42R]

On 12/2/2019 at 1:48 PM, Lawrence St said:

What's faster?

The from 207th St to 42nd St, or the from 207th St to 42nd St during the AM rush?

Probably the , fewer stops

[Q23 via 108]

From 59 Streets. 

What will get you to East 161 St first

The  or the 

[R42sDaBest]

7 minutes ago, Q23 via 108 said:

From 59 Streets. 

What will get you to East 161 St first

The  or the 

If the isn't chocked behind 2 or 3  other trains ahead on Lexington then it will most likely beat the there. 

[CenSin]

On 2/10/2020 at 10:23 PM, Q23 via 108 said:

From 59 Streets. 

What will get you to East 161 St first

The  or the 

That’s pretty unfair. They are different distances from 161 Street.

[B35 via Church]

On 2/10/2020 at 10:23 PM, Q23 via 108 said:

From 59 Streets. 

What will get you to East 161 St first

The  or the 

I'm not taking the to Yankee Stadium for several reasons.... Duration is one of them.

My answer is the without hesitation.

[Lawrence St]

15 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

I'm not taking the to Yankee Stadium for several reasons.... Duration is one of them.

My answer is the without hesitation.

What will get you to Atlantic Avenue from Bedford Park Blvd faster, the or the  during the AM rush?

[B35 via Church]

14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

What will get you to Atlantic Avenue from Bedford Park Blvd faster, the or the  during the AM rush?

Still the (but by a lesser margin than that of if they both left from 59th).

[Jova42R]

What’s faster from Jamaica to Far Rockaway?

Q113/114 or  to ?

[Deucey]

2 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

What’s faster from Jamaica to Far Rockaway?

Q113/114 or  to ?

Train always beats bus.

Fastest to Staten Island Ferry from any of the stations at 57/59th St:

 to South Ferry,  to Whitehall, or   to Bowling Green and walking down State Street?

[Jova42R]

1 minute ago, Deucey said:

Train always beats bus.

Fastest to Staten Island Ferry from any of the stations at 57/59th St:

 to South Ferry,  to Whitehall, or   to Bowling Green and walking down State Street?

The  probably.

What’s faster from 125 St/Amsterdam to Riverdale?

M60+ to MNRR

 to MNRR

 to

 to

or something else?

[R68OnBroadway]

Fastest from southern end of Central Park to Downtown Brooklyn (Borough Hall):

 

 to  

 

  to  

 to  

[Jova42R]

5 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

Fastest from southern end of Central Park to Downtown Brooklyn (Borough Hall):

 

 to  

 

  to  

 to  

The , then walk, probably.

 

What’s faster from 42 St to W Farms Sq

 to

 to Q44

 to

MNRR to

Edited February 13, 2020 by Jova42R

[CenSin]

Challenging challenger:

1. Coney Island–Stillwell Avenue to Flushing–Main Street (midday)
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2. Flushing–Main Street to Coney Island–Stillwell Avenue (PM rush)
   • (reverse of above)

Calculate the minimum travel time, maximum travel time, average travel time, and variance. 😀

 

Edited February 13, 2020 by CenSin

[Jova42R]

17 hours ago, Jova42R said:

The , then walk, probably.

 

What’s faster from 42 St to W Farms Sq

 to

 to Q44

 to

MNRR to

 for sure.