MTAbus677 Posted March 5, 2020 Share #176 Posted March 5, 2020 Once the B1 gets articulated buses, I will like it again. As of now, I no longer like that route. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted March 5, 2020 Share #177 Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, MTAbus677 said: Once the B1 gets articulated buses, I will like it again. As of now, I no longer like that route. Ok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted March 5, 2020 Share #178 Posted March 5, 2020 When does the pick start over at LGA/CP AND BP it starts on April 5 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 5, 2020 Share #179 Posted March 5, 2020 1088 was at UP yesterday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 5, 2020 Share #180 Posted March 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: 1088 was at UP yesterday Uh, what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 5, 2020 Share #181 Posted March 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Lex said: Uh, what? Same thing I say. 24 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: 1088 was at UP yesterday How nice.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 6, 2020 Share #182 Posted March 6, 2020 22 hours ago, Lex said: Uh, what? 22 hours ago, Future ENY OP said: Same thing I say. How nice.... For artic training as well. The XD60s and XN60s aren't that much different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 6, 2020 Share #183 Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Cait Sith said: For artic training as well. The XD60s and XN60s aren't that much different. Similar specs on both models. Any differences of the engines tho? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 6, 2020 Share #184 Posted March 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Similar specs on both models. Any differences of the engines tho? The specs don't matter in general, it's a matter of how they operate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted March 6, 2020 Share #185 Posted March 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: For artic training as well. The XD60s and XN60s aren't that much different. when you train operators or anyone who has never operated an artic, the bus model technically does not matter, seeing as that's not the main focus of the training. it's about getting acclimated to the length, width & weight of the bus, traffic spacing, etc. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted March 6, 2020 Share #186 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) any news on how many run were cut om the 1? Edited March 6, 2020 by limitednyc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted March 7, 2020 Share #187 Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 2:48 PM, EastFlatbushLarry said: when you train operators or anyone who has never operated an artic, the bus model technically does not matter, seeing as that's not the main focus of the training. it's about getting acclimated to the length, width & weight of the bus, traffic spacing, etc. Similarly, I believe that bus 6110 at one time did a test run on the B35 before its articulated conversion. The only difference is the vertical clearance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted March 8, 2020 Share #188 Posted March 8, 2020 5 hours ago, aemoreira81 said: Similarly, I believe that bus 6110 at one time did a test run on the B35 before its articulated conversion. The only difference is the vertical clearance. correct. and depending on which run you're performing, clearance may or may not come into play. that's why at UP, GA or JG (and eventually EN) they'll pick any xd60/xn60 model to train operators on. people on this forum make such a big deal out of a 61xx showing up at JG or a xn60 showing up at UP... why? because they're hoping they have the jump on an "exclusive" (and that term has been abused incessantly over the last few years) like calm down... it's about getting operators acclimated ASAP. For example, if UP were receiving 12xx LSFA's, they'd pull 54xx's from FB to train em on, if that was what's available in the division... doesn't mean that 54xx LSFA's will be assigned to UP 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted March 9, 2020 Share #189 Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 10:12 PM, EastFlatbushLarry said: correct. and depending on which run you're performing, clearance may or may not come into play. that's why at UP, GA or JG (and eventually EN) they'll pick any xd60/xn60 model to train operators on. people on this forum make such a big deal out of a 61xx showing up at JG or a xn60 showing up at UP... why? because they're hoping they have the jump on an "exclusive" (and that term has been abused incessantly over the last few years) like calm down... it's about getting operators acclimated ASAP. For example, if UP were receiving 12xx LSFA's, they'd pull 54xx's from FB to train em on, if that was what's available in the division... doesn't mean that 54xx LSFA's will be assigned to UP Exactly. Just because a bus is at a depot, does not mean that it's there for revenue service. A bunch of Staten Island buses go to Manhattan to get the OMNY systems worked on when the vendor is not on the Island or they're a pass through depot on a transfer move. Also, what people do have to realize is that operators are qualified on multiple types of buses through cross training. I haven't driven a XN40 yet but being that I'm trained on the XD40s, I can hop in one and go. So yeah, no need to wait on a XD60 because a depot is getting XDs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted March 9, 2020 Share #190 Posted March 9, 2020 I forgot that the MTA were putting Articulateds in the B1. This doesn't make any sense. B1 needs Articualteds during the Rush Hour and weekend peak hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 11, 2020 Share #191 Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 7:53 AM, NY1635 said: I forgot that the MTA were putting Articulateds in the B1. This doesn't make any sense. B1 needs Articualteds during the Rush Hour and weekend peak hour. What in the name of tarnation are you going on about!?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 11, 2020 Share #192 Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Lawrence St said: What in the name of tarnation are you going on about!?! Ignore it sir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted March 12, 2020 Share #193 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) On 3/9/2020 at 3:05 AM, SevenEleven said: Exactly. Just because a bus is at a depot, does not mean that it's there for revenue service. A bunch of Staten Island buses go to Manhattan to get the OMNY systems worked on when the vendor is not on the Island or they're a pass through depot on a transfer move. Also, what people do have to realize is that operators are qualified on multiple types of buses through cross training. I haven't driven a XN40 yet but being that I'm trained on the XD40s, I can hop in one and go. So yeah, no need to wait on a XD60 because a depot is getting XDs. There are actually significant enough differences between the 5439-5602 batch of LFS buses and the 1200s/5253-5363/5770-5986 batch of LFSs that can't make one a substitute for the other for training. (The blue-and-yellow LFS buses do not have convex mirrors on the driver's side, while the older models do.) The mirror specs on Xcelsior artics, by contrast, have remained the same from 4710 up to the XE60s. Also, I wonder if an XN60 will now be used on the morning B1 run that's out of Gleason. Edited March 12, 2020 by aemoreira81 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted March 12, 2020 Share #194 Posted March 12, 2020 Do we have a specific date for the route conversion yet or is it still April 2020? Also, which XD60 units are at Ulmer Park from the Bronx (besides 4743)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 12, 2020 Share #195 Posted March 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Snorunts said: Do we have a specific date for the route conversion yet or is it still April 2020? Also, which XD60 units are at Ulmer Park from the Bronx (besides 4743)? 4744, 4745 are at Ulmer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 12, 2020 Share #196 Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, aemoreira81 said: There are actually significant enough differences between the 5439-5602 batch of LFS buses and the 1200s/5253-5363/5770-5986 batch of LFSs that can't make one a substitute for the other for training. (The blue-and-yellow LFS buses do not have convex mirrors on the driver's side, while the older models do.) The mirror specs on Xcelsior artics, by contrast, have remained the same from 4710 up to the XE60s. Also, I wonder if an XN60 will now be used on the morning B1 run that's out of Gleason. Flatbush also has some revenue service during the rush hour for the B1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted March 12, 2020 Share #197 Posted March 12, 2020 I wonder if this B1 conversion is going to be postponed or suspended with the fact that Kingsborough CC (CUNY) has to now make all classes online starting March 19th due to COVID-19. This is gonna have a major impact on school runs, and overall transportation in the city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted March 12, 2020 Share #198 Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, aemoreira81 said: There are actually significant enough differences between the 5439-5602 batch of LFS buses and the 1200s/5253-5363/5770-5986 batch of LFSs that can't make one a substitute for the other for training. (The blue-and-yellow LFS buses do not have convex mirrors on the driver's side, while the older models do.) The mirror specs on Xcelsior artics, by contrast, have remained the same from 4710 up to the XE60s. Also, I wonder if an XN60 will now be used on the morning B1 run that's out of Gleason. Training on the new LFS took 5 minutes for me. It's the same bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted March 12, 2020 Share #199 Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, aemoreira81 said: There are actually significant enough differences between the 5439-5602 batch of LFS buses and the 1200s/5253-5363/5770-5986 batch of LFSs that can't make one a substitute for the other for training. (The blue-and-yellow LFS buses do not have convex mirrors on the driver's side, while the older models do.) The mirror specs on Xcelsior artics, by contrast, have remained the same from 4710 up to the XE60s. Also, I wonder if an XN60 will now be used on the morning B1 run that's out of Gleason. Don't really need a convex mirror on the left side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionVIIonM79 Posted March 14, 2020 Share #200 Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Instead of making the B1 artics, why not just make M96 artics? The M96s run frequently and every bus is crowded as hell. Run M96 artics out of MCH and Tusky Edited March 14, 2020 by OrionVIIonM79 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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