JeremiahC99 Posted January 26, 2020 Share #851 Posted January 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, N6 Limited said: Should the B60 and B42 be combined? Van Siclen Ave is like the boondocks of the development, do you think that would work? Only two stops would be made: At Schroeder’s Avenue and at the Brooklyn Sports Club. During late nights, the B83 would continue its normal route. However, now that I think of it, I would recommend the B83 maintain its current route through Starret City. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted January 26, 2020 Share #852 Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: Lots of politicians demand "thorough audits" or "forensic audits" of the MTA, to the point where the MTA is the most audited agency in the whole state. Yet those same politicians don't focus on the results. Why? Because all those audits expose just how much money the MTA is forced to spend on audits. You are right on the money on that one as it is the only way that the city and state comptoller's offices that can justify their existence. The purpose of the aduits are to grab headlines complaining about the agency and then we hear the agency's response and then the report gathers dust on the shelves until the next one is done sometime down the road, We used to make the papers on regular basis as the bills were never paid on time and it took a complete change in commissioners to finally get the problem corrected or close to 30 years as the agency finally decided to centralize purchasing and payment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 26, 2020 Share #853 Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Not only that, but it takes the about 7 minutes to go between Queens Plaza and Roosevelt Avenue alone (and as mentioned, if everything goes smooth). Also, a bus ride from Atlas Park Mall to Queens Boulevard & 71st Avenue will definitely be beyond 10 minutes (Woodhaven & Cooper to 71st Avenue might be more in line with a 10 minute bus ride). All of this, obviously not accounting for any extra walking that would need to be done. So not only is it disingenuous, it's just factually incorrect. In regards to the commute in question, his point is ultimately that [a ride on that QT86 to 71st subway & a ride on the from 71st to Queens Plaza] would take less time than [a ride on that QT82 to Junction av subway, a ride on the QB local from Junction to 74th, and a ride on the from 74th to 33rd]... I'm looking past that point, because in the grand scheme of things, [a ride on that QT86 to 71st subway & a ride on the from 71st to Queens Plaza] I cannot see being that much better/all that worth it, than [a ride on the current Q47 to 74th & a ride on the from 74th to 33rd].... Queens Plaza is further away from those bldg's along Thomson b/w Van Dam & Skillman than 33rd/QB is.... That's all that there is to it. Anyway, how much time would you estimate a ride on that QT86 from Atlas to 71st subway + a ride on the from 71st to Queens Plaza? 1 minute ago, azspeedbullet said: i have mobility issues so the less the walking is better overall for me. I have done the walk from the E train along Queens Blvd many times and it is a good walk but it can be horrible during bad weather like snow storms and rain. The only thing i hate about the E train is the annoying train traffic delays because it shares tracks with the F train. If there is a problem on the F train, it could also affect the E train too. ...which is one reason why 10 mins. between Queens Plaza & Forest Hills sounds like flat out nonsense... Anyway, when I used to go to school out there along Thomson, I would sometimes do that walk (Skillman > QB, under the ) to catch the at Queens Plaza, back towards Brooklyn.... Wasn't something I'd want to do everyday & that was 18-19 year old me.... In any case, are you closer to Cooper or closer to Myrtle? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azspeedbullet Posted January 26, 2020 Share #854 Posted January 26, 2020 41 minutes ago, B35 via Church said: In any case, are you closer to Cooper or closer to Myrtle? cooper, one block away from atlas park mall 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 27, 2020 Share #855 Posted January 27, 2020 From my experience, a commute between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills was 12-13 minutes at best. If the kept a route along 80th, then it could’ve followed the following route: From Myrtle Avenue > 80th Street > Grand Avenue > Broadway > Jackson Heights/Roosevelt Bus Terminal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azspeedbullet Posted January 27, 2020 Share #856 Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: From my experience, a commute between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills was 12-13 minutes at best. If the kept a route along 80th, then it could’ve followed the following route: From Myrtle Avenue > 80th Street > Grand Avenue > Broadway > Jackson Heights/Roosevelt Bus Terminal. Broadway can get clogged with traffic. the few times i ridden the Q53 bus from wood side, the traffic on Broadway was also very super slow making it seem like forever to reach Queens Blvd. Broadway does not need bus lanes. Back in the day (like around 2015/2016ish), the Q47 had an amazing re-route that went from 80th st->Grand Ave->69th St to resume regular route. this avoided the narrow Calamus Ave and 79th St. I wish the MTA continued with this route, it made the route seemed a bit more straight and avoided narrows roads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 27, 2020 Share #857 Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, azspeedbullet said: Back in the day (like around 2015/2016ish), the Q47 had an amazing re-route that went from 80th st->Grand Ave->69th St to resume regular route. this avoided the narrow Calamus Ave and 79th St. I wish the MTA continued with this route, it made the route seemed a bit more straight and avoided narrows roads Alright. That seems like something I’d incorporate into my own plans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted January 27, 2020 Share #858 Posted January 27, 2020 It is sad to know what Byford had to wade through with all of this political BS - and still had measurable success during his tenure. That in itself is a small miracle. A fraction of that mess would cause people heart attacks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 27, 2020 Share #859 Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, B35 via Church said: In regards to the commute in question, his point is ultimately that [a ride on that QT86 to 71st subway & a ride on the from 71st to Queens Plaza] would take less time than [a ride on that QT82 to Junction av subway, a ride on the QB local from Junction to 74th, and a ride on the from 74th to 33rd]... I'm looking past that point, because in the grand scheme of things, [a ride on that QT86 to 71st subway & a ride on the from 71st to Queens Plaza] I cannot see being that much better/all that worth it, than [a ride on the current Q47 to 74th & a ride on the from 74th to 33rd].... Queens Plaza is further away from those bldg's along Thomson b/w Van Dam & Skillman than 33rd/QB is.... That's all that there is to it. Anyway, how much time would you estimate a ride on that QT86 from Atlas to 71st subway + a ride on the from 71st to Queens Plaza? It would differ greatly between AM and PM rush. I would put a ride on the QT86 to 71st Ave at around 15 minutes regardless of the rush hour. In the AM, factor those 15 minutes plus 3 minutes from the bus til you get on the train (rather on the low end). Then taking the to Queens Plaza would be about 16 minutes. That together is 34 minutes. PM is very different, since the merging creates bigger delays than the AM. Queens Plaza to Roosevelt can easily go past 10 minutes, and then there's another 7-8 minutes to 71st Avenue. So on the faster end, assuming you don't wait for the bus once you leave the subway, you're looking at 35 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted January 27, 2020 Share #860 Posted January 27, 2020 6 hours ago, NY1635 said: Everything is fine. Govenor Retard forced the state to release prisoners on New Years and they've been causing problems in the city. It's Highly Implied that Ex-Gang Members that used to operate out of Baisley, Queensbridge, Redfern, and all other NYHA Projects are running amok. The Mayor forget that NORE, Capone, and 50 Cent used to operate out those areas. This has nothing to to with what I was talking about. You shouldn't have quoted me 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted January 27, 2020 Share #861 Posted January 27, 2020 The QChron article has been blasted for cherry picking good reviews on some FB groups I've been following - mostly by Maspeth and Jackson Heights residents. Makes sense since news outlets tend to report the bad more than good. I will provide a relatively positive data point: Out in the NE Queens transit desert, I live about 5 minutes walk to the intersection of Utopia Pkwy and Francis Lewis Blvd - the plan would likely get me to the 7 train faster via the QT49 (as it would run express on Northern Blvd from 160 St and westward). I have relatives in JH and NE Queens and their commutes would become somewhat easier (either they travel around the neighborhood, catch the 7, or travel to Maspeth from Flushing via the old Q58 (now QT6). Finally having a N/S route on Utopia Pkwy in the QT64 is a nice addition. In the future, if my kids decide to go to Francis Lewis HS, they can finally have a direct trip. This may be my unpopular opinion but I do not see enough outrage for the MTA to change their course significantly. NE Queens has been relatively quiet other than some noise from College Point and Beechhurst where their buses have really changed. Not to mention Express buses being decimated all over Queens. The QM20 which I take relatively often has been reduced to ashes. Now its new analog QMT103 goes to downtown Manhattan and runs a few buses during rush hours only. To catch anything outside of rush hours, I'd have to walk 15 minutes to the nearest Express bus that runs or take one of the green lines. I get why the Express buses are being decimated, off peak buses would run <5 passengers sometimes each way. It's nice but very inefficient. They should have been like the LIRR and lowered fares for non-rush hour travel. The rushing to the subway service (purple lines) in NE Queens only run during rush hours - which is terrible. NE Queens is considered car culture heavy and a bit like the "suburbs".. but it cannot be that people do not use the bus outside of rush hours. The redesign for NE Queens has some positive changes but the bus intervals are AWFUL. It is a huge service cut, through and through. Bus connections which many will be forced to make would be terrible under these new bus headways. The outreach to commuters is close to nil. The only way I would see this bus redesign work at all is if bus headways are 5 min or less on all routes or buses are dispatched in a way where a bus connection will arrive within 5 minutes or less. I just do not see it and if the bus redesign does go through, it will be a bad news field day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted January 27, 2020 Share #862 Posted January 27, 2020 I wonder if this has been mentioned before. The redesign plan and their rush hour times do not factor school children dismissal times. At least in NE Queens, kids of all grades get dismissed around 2:30pm. The PM rush hour according to MTA Bus' definition is from 3/4pm - 7pm. I may have missed the passage in the draft plan but I do not see it expressed explicitly in the schedules. Also for NE Queens, the purple lines (rushing to the subway) should also run outside of rush hours - it is this region that always gets shafted when it comes to public transit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf0519 Posted January 27, 2020 Share #863 Posted January 27, 2020 58 minutes ago, Cain said: The QChron article has been blasted for cherry picking good reviews on some FB groups I've been following - mostly by Maspeth and Jackson Heights residents. Makes sense since news outlets tend to report the bad more than good. I will provide a relatively positive data point: Out in the NE Queens transit desert, I live about 5 minutes walk to the intersection of Utopia Pkwy and Francis Lewis Blvd - the plan would likely get me to the 7 train faster via the QT49 (as it would run express on Northern Blvd from 160 St and westward). I have relatives in JH and NE Queens and their commutes would become somewhat easier (either they travel around the neighborhood, catch the 7, or travel to Maspeth from Flushing via the old Q58 (now QT6). Finally having a N/S route on Utopia Pkwy in the QT64 is a nice addition. In the future, if my kids decide to go to Francis Lewis HS, they can finally have a direct trip. This may be my unpopular opinion but I do not see enough outrage for the MTA to change their course significantly. NE Queens has been relatively quiet other than some noise from College Point and Beechhurst where their buses have really changed. Not to mention Express buses being decimated all over Queens. The QM20 which I take relatively often has been reduced to ashes. Now its new analog QMT103 goes to downtown Manhattan and runs a few buses during rush hours only. To catch anything outside of rush hours, I'd have to walk 15 minutes to the nearest Express bus that runs or take one of the green lines. I get why the Express buses are being decimated, off peak buses would run <5 passengers sometimes each way. It's nice but very inefficient. They should have been like the LIRR and lowered fares for non-rush hour travel. The rushing to the subway service (purple lines) in NE Queens only run during rush hours - which is terrible. NE Queens is considered car culture heavy and a bit like the "suburbs".. but it cannot be that people do not use the bus outside of rush hours. The redesign for NE Queens has some positive changes but the bus intervals are AWFUL. It is a huge service cut, through and through. Bus connections which many will be forced to make would be terrible under these new bus headways. The outreach to commuters is close to nil. The only way I would see this bus redesign work at all is if bus headways are 5 min or less on all routes or buses are dispatched in a way where a bus connection will arrive within 5 minutes or less. I just do not see it and if the bus redesign does go through, it will be a bad news field day. I don’t live in this part of Northeastern Queens, but i could probably guess what the MTA was thinking with the QT48, QT49, and QT51 being rush hours only. QT48 (Flushing-Fort Totten via Willets Point Blvd) riders already have either infrequent or limited service today with the Q34 being weekdays only and the Q16 being every 30 to 60 minutes during middays on weekdays and weekends respectively on the Willets Point Blvd branch, along with the Q16 having the 4th lowest ridership of all NYCT Buses in Queens. The MTA probably figures that most riders would take either the QT81, QT84, or QT85 to Flushing, or either the QT64 or QT65 to the QT17. QT49 (Flushing-Beechurst via Utopia Pkwy) riders, while they would lose out of any service on Crocheron outside of the rush, Crocheron Ave is walking distance to Northern Blvd and the QT17, as well as Utopia Pkwy being currently covered by one of the Q16’s lower ridership branches. The only people who really lose out are those living in Beechurst near the Q15/Q15A terminal now, as they would have to take the QT65 and transfer or walk to the QT16 at Clintonville St. QT51 (Flushing-Bay Terrace via Crocheron Ave) riders would still be within walking distance to Northern Blvd and the QT85 on Corporal Kennedy St. 35 Ave actually gains service between Francis Lewis Blvd and Corporal Kennedy now. Aside from these routes, I can actually see mysel using the QT65 more than i currently use the Q65. While i wont be able to catch the in Flushing under the redesign, I avoid Flushing now anyway, and i would now be able to take the QT65 straight to the Broadway LIRR as opposed to walking up from 45 Ave. The only thing i would add would be a QT57 from Electchester (164 St/Jewel Ave) that would be a rush hours only purple zone express up 164 St and would follow the QT30 and QT31 to Flushing. Give the QT57 15-20 minute frequency during the rush, and cut the QT65 to every 20 minutes during the rush except for every 10 minutes between Jamaica (165 St Terminal) and Queens General Hospital), since patronage would not remain the same as Flushing bound riders would take a different route. Overall, the plan has mostly good ideas, aside from some of the frequencies being a bit lacking, but when there are bad ideas, they are quite terrible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 27, 2020 Share #864 Posted January 27, 2020 10 hours ago, N6 Limited said: Do you think they'll realign the B83 to go straight down Pennsylvania Ave? I think that's basically guaranteed to be in the Brooklyn proposal. I think a lot of straightening out of the ENY routes will occur in the redesign (the B13, B20, B83, and making better use of the B84 instead of just a feeder shuttle) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 27, 2020 Share #865 Posted January 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said: I think that's basically guaranteed to be in the Brooklyn proposal. I think a lot of straightening out of the ENY routes will occur in the redesign (the B13, B20, B83, and making better use of the B84 instead of just a feeder shuttle) Yeah, they are a little crazy in that area. Why do/did so many buses terminate at the Postal Facility? (There used to be more before some were extended to Gateway). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 27, 2020 Share #866 Posted January 27, 2020 12 hours ago, N6 Limited said: Do you think they'll realign the B83 to go straight down Pennsylvania Ave? Yeah.... Foregone conclusion. 1 hour ago, N6 Limited said: Why do/did so many buses terminate at the Postal Facility? (There used to be more before some were extended to Gateway). B20 IDK, it always ended in there for as long as I can recall... BrooklynBus or TrainMaster5 may know the reason why.... B15 (when the short turns ended there) were demand-based for the actual postal facility... B14 was extended to the opposite side of Linden for folks seeking the movie theater; running buses inside the postal facility made for a convenient layover spot.... 11 hours ago, NY1635 said: Everything is fine. Govenor Retard forced the state to release prisoners on New Years and they've been causing problems in the city. It's Highly Implied that Ex-Gang Members that used to operate out of Baisley, Queensbridge, Redfern, and all other NYHA Projects are running amok. The Mayor forget that NORE, Capone, and 50 Cent used to operate out those areas. Alright, now you're just trolling the forum with this incoherent nonsense... You know this didn't have a goddamn thing to do with what Q43LTD was saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 27, 2020 Share #867 Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, NY1635 said: Everything is fine. Govenor Retard forced the state to release prisoners on New Years and they've been causing problems in the city. It's Highly Implied that Ex-Gang Members that used to operate out of Baisley, Queensbridge, Redfern, and all other NYHA Projects are running amok. The Mayor forget that NORE, Capone, and 50 Cent used to operate out those areas. Would you shut the hell up with your irrelevant posts already? If you keep posting more irrelevant stuff, I'm putting you on mod queue. So actually take the time to THINK, before you POST...... Edited January 27, 2020 by Cait Sith 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBus Posted January 27, 2020 Share #868 Posted January 27, 2020 9 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said: I think that's basically guaranteed to be in the Brooklyn proposal. I think a lot of straightening out of the ENY routes will occur in the redesign (the B13, B20, B83, and making better use of the B84 instead of just a feeder shuttle) But you know they will screw it up. The original B83 went straight down Pennsylvania Avenue. It was changed only because the community wanted a second route down Van Siclen. (I was involved in those discussions. I can also tell you that the only reason we have Gun Hill Depot is because the MTA agreed to build a softball field to get the Community Board's support for the depot.) The MTA claimed it would be too expensive to operate two routes. So the compromise was the meandering route we have today. So if they do decide to straighten it and extend the B84, you just know that they will create other service gaps in the process and have every route operate no more frequently than every 20 to 30 minutes to ensure the dollar vans get enough business and can further expand. That's how the MTA will be helping the local economy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted January 27, 2020 Share #869 Posted January 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Cait Sith said: Would you shut the hell up with your irrelevant posts already? If you keep posting more irrelevant stuff, I'm putting you on mod queue. So actually take the time to THINK, before you POST...... You do Know I'm an IRS Agent and I can throw you in Prison for making a threat right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 27, 2020 Share #870 Posted January 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, NY1635 said: You do Know I'm an IRS Agent and I can throw you in Prison for making a threat right? That wasn’t a threat. I’m pretty sure everyone is asking you to not post anything that doesn’t relate to the Queens Bus Redesign in any way. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 27, 2020 Share #871 Posted January 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, NY1635 said: You do Know I'm an IRS Agent and I can throw you in Prison for making a threat right? And you do know that I don't give an actual f**k, right? Common sense on this forum is clearly not your strongest suit. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Floyd Fan Posted January 27, 2020 Share #872 Posted January 27, 2020 17 hours ago, Cain said: NE Queens has been relatively quiet other than some noise from College Point and Beechhurst where their buses have really changed. Not to mention Express buses being decimated all over Queens. The QM20 which I take relatively often has been reduced to ashes. Now its new analog QMT103 goes to downtown Manhattan and runs a few buses during rush hours only. To catch anything outside of rush hours, I'd have to walk 15 minutes to the nearest Express bus that runs or take one of the green lines. I get why the Express buses are being decimated, off peak buses would run <5 passengers sometimes each way. It's nice but very inefficient. They should have been like the LIRR and lowered fares for non-rush hour travel. The rushing to the subway service (purple lines) in NE Queens only run during rush hours - which is terrible. NE Queens is considered car culture heavy and a bit like the "suburbs".. but it cannot be that people do not use the bus outside of rush hours. The redesign for NE Queens has some positive changes but the bus intervals are AWFUL. It is a huge service cut, through and through. Bus connections which many will be forced to make would be terrible under these new bus headways. The outreach to commuters is close to nil. The only way I would see this bus redesign work at all is if bus headways are 5 min or less on all routes or buses are dispatched in a way where a bus connection will arrive within 5 minutes or less. I just do not see it and if the bus redesign does go through, it will be a bad news field day. I agree that NE Queens has been relatively quiet about the changes. I used to take the Clearview (QM2A / QM20) back in the day. It always had good ridership. It seems the MTA (and the writer of the article that is at the top of this thread) are not aware of the disappointments some have with the proposed service changes. IMO, the frequency-cutting is the worst of it. I'm ok with walking (to a point....10-15 max for a daily trip), but I don't want to wait 20+ min for a bus where I currently wait 10 (or having to wait 15 when I currently wait 7). I intend to go to the Outreach Meeting in Kew Gardens (Boro Hall on Queens Blvd) on Jan. 28th Tues at 6pm. I'm thinking of printing out a few papers and handing them to any MTA officials or media members I may encounter. I view this as handing a business card to a prospective client/manager during an elevator pitch. Whether it works is another story, but something must be said to let the MTA and the media know that these service cuts (...and these are service cuts) are unacceptable. The main points (as I see them in my area): The current service proposals for the QMT165 (QM5) and QMT167 (QM6) are unacceptable. - FACT: The current QM5 and QM6 bus routes get many weekday riders in the AM and PM rush hours. Many of the AM riders board well east of 188th St. - FACT: The current QM5 weekday bus at 5:10 am usually has at least 20 riders onboard before it gets to 188th Street. The proposed service on the QMT165 will not have the early bus service many riders need to get to work to make other connections to other forms of transit. - FACT: The current QM5 Saturday bus at 6:30 am usually has at least 20 riders onboard before it gets to 188th Street. - FACT: The current QM6 Saturday bus at 6:00 pm generally picks up about 15-20 passengers between North Shore Towers / LIJ North Shore Hospital. This bus service, and other bus trips operated on the QM6, are vital to employees/residents of North Shore Towers, relatives visiting patients at LIJ, employees at LIJ, and also serves to transport people to/from St. Johns University during weekend events. A necessary requirement for ALL Union Tpke bus services: 1) Keep the same hours of service and relative headways intact for the QMT165 (QM5) and QMT167 (QM6) as many people rely on these services. These buses are not mere means of convenience; they are essential to those who rely on them (senior citizens, people with mobility issues, etc). 2) Keep the same headways for the QT32 similar to the current Q46. More stops should be added to the QT32 at night and on weekends to allow for seamless bus transfers intersecting bus lines when buses tend to run less frequently. This is a small part of things I'm sure we all want, I (and presumably many of us) need to start somewhere. Good luck to us all with this redesign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted January 27, 2020 Share #873 Posted January 27, 2020 I don't know if this is true or not but I've heard rumors that DeBlasio's vision zero also tweaked the signal timings so that cars would not have a "green wave" on many city streets. This in turn prevented cars from having headroom to "speed up". Anecdotally, I have noticed streets that used to have green lights turn to stop and go reds in recent years. Back on topic: Regarding the blue lines in the Queens Bus Redesign, are they meant to be future SBS type bus lines with all the SBS treatments? They shared the same color as other SBS lines but did not have the "SBS" moniker attached to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Floyd Fan Posted January 27, 2020 Share #874 Posted January 27, 2020 edit...... - FACT: The current QM6 Saturday bus at 6:00 pm generally picks up about 15-20 passengers between North Shore Towers / LIJ North Shore Hospital and Main Street in Kew Gardens Hills. I'm working on the Word doc so it is 'media ready' (or roadshow) shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 28, 2020 Share #875 Posted January 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Cain said: I don't know if this is true or not but I've heard rumors that DeBlasio's vision zero also tweaked the signal timings so that cars would not have a "green wave" on many city streets. This in turn prevented cars from having headroom to "speed up". Anecdotally, I have noticed streets that used to have green lights turn to stop and go reds in recent years. Back on topic: Regarding the blue lines in the Queens Bus Redesign, are they meant to be future SBS type bus lines with all the SBS treatments? They shared the same color as other SBS lines but did not have the "SBS" moniker attached to it. To that rumor. It’s valid. I’ve noticed it while traveling on West Street // 12th Avenue. Since the speed limit went down to 30. It’s becoming harder and harder to drive in this city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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