LGA Link N Train Posted February 14, 2020 Share #126 Posted February 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, Jemorie said: Nah chill. Nah. Anything but the please. I’d rather see the R32 final run on the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted February 15, 2020 Share #127 Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 1:38 PM, Lawrence St said: The R32's should end on the line they started on. I think they should run a special 4 boro route - / from either QBL terminal, down Broadway as to CI, then back as from CI to BPB. But I imagine that’d confuse the folks who get on that aren’t rail fanning. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 15, 2020 Share #128 Posted February 15, 2020 16 hours ago, Deucey said: I think they should run a special 4 boro route - / from either QBL terminal, down Broadway as to CI, then back as from CI to BPB. But I imagine that’d confuse the folks who get on that aren’t rail fanning. I say have 3 runs: 207 St to Bay Pkwy (signed up as the ) 207 St to 168 St on 168 St to Jay St on Jay St to 4 Av-9 St on 4 Av-9 St to Coney Island on Coney Island to Bay Pkwy on Bay Pkwy to 96 St-2 Av (signed up as the ) Bay Pkwy to 36 St on 36 St to 57 St-7 Av on the 57 St-7 Av to 96 St-2 Av on the 96 St-2 Av to Jamaica Center (signed up as the ) 96 St-2 Av to Lexington Av-63 St on the Lexington Av-63 St to 47-50 Sts on the Reverse Move at 47-50 Sts 47-50 Sts to Forest Hills-71 Av on the Forest Hills-71 Av to Jamaica Center on the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted February 17, 2020 Share #129 Posted February 17, 2020 They will run where the MTA wants them to run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted February 22, 2020 Share #130 Posted February 22, 2020 Any idea when the R32 final run is expected to be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 23, 2020 Share #131 Posted February 23, 2020 5 hours ago, happy283 said: Any idea when the R32 final run is expected to be? Late April, according to a T/O i talked to. Also, supposedly the R68s are replacing the R32s on the . any insight on that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted February 23, 2020 Share #132 Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Jova42R said: Late April, according to a T/O i talked to. Also, supposedly the R68s are replacing the R32s on the . any insight on that? R68s are not replacing the R32s...the R68s are not new cars... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted February 23, 2020 Share #133 Posted February 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jemorie said: R68s are not replacing the R32s...the R68s are not new cars... Are there even enough R68/A models to replace R32s and still make service? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 23, 2020 Share #134 Posted February 23, 2020 I think the did use an R42 a long time ago, it was 8-cars. Question is: Did it do the 3/4 position like the going to Manhattan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted February 23, 2020 Share #135 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Deucey said: Are there even enough R68/A models to replace R32s and still make service? No. You can do the math on Google for the overall B Division stock. The runs 25 trainsets, the 29, the / combined 33, and the 21. There are 425 R68s (with nine singles for the Franklin Shuttle) and 200 R68As. That, in addition to the 750 R46s, some assigned to Pitkin for the and Rockaway Shuttle, and the rest still being swapped gradually from Jamaica to Coney Island in exchange for R160s. @Calvin, yes for a brief period of time in December 2008 alongside R40s. However, the refused to add in new C/R boards exclusively for the R40s and R42s, so T/Os had to stop all the way at the 10 or S car markers, causing a 120 feet gap in the rear and some customers got fell, tripped, or got hurt running for the train. That's one of the reasons for the prolonging the R32 retirement. Edited February 23, 2020 by Jemorie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 23, 2020 Share #136 Posted February 23, 2020 If the R32's do retire and the R46's are the replacements, It would be logical to give the 140 R68's in trade of 140 R46's since the has 2 terminals and the always switch cars. the has one terminal, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened since the has one terminal. 11 hours ago, Jemorie said: No. You can do the math on Google for the overall B Division stock. The runs 25 trainsets, the 29, the / combined 33, and the 21. There are 425 R68s (with nine singles for the Franklin Shuttle) and 200 R68As. That, in addition to the 750 R46s, some assigned to Pitkin for the and Rockaway Shuttle, and the rest still being swapped gradually from Jamaica to Coney Island in exchange for R160s. @Calvin, yes for a brief period of time in December 2008 alongside R40s. However, the refused to add in new C/R boards exclusively for the R40s and R42s, so T/Os had to stop all the way at the 10 or S car markers, causing a 120 feet gap in the rear and some customers got fell, tripped, or got hurt running for the train. That's one of the reasons for the prolonging the R32 retirement. yeah putting the R40.42's on the was to kill off the R32's early and it backfired real bad and within 3.5 weeks later the R32's went back to the . this showed how retarded NYCT Ops Planning and car equipment was. As a railfan it was very interesting but it wasn't practical. 11 years later they still want the R32's out with no replacement for the last 100-120 cars. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted February 23, 2020 Share #137 Posted February 23, 2020 I still don't buy that the R32's retirement is imminent. They aren't that stupid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 23, 2020 Share #138 Posted February 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: I still don't buy that the R32's retirement is imminent. They aren't that stupid. Sure, they may not be, but the same can't be said for those who control the purse strings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted February 23, 2020 Share #139 Posted February 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: I still don't buy that the R32's retirement is imminent. They aren't that stupid. They are that stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted February 23, 2020 Share #140 Posted February 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jemorie said: They are that stupid. If anything, 80 or so will be in storage at Pitkin. No reason not to have longer and trains if these cars still work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted February 23, 2020 Share #141 Posted February 23, 2020 Fully retiring the R32s is doable but will reduce spare factors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted February 23, 2020 Share #142 Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: If the R32's do retire and the R46's are the replacements, It would be logical to give the 140 R68's in trade of 140 R46's since the has 2 terminals and the always switch cars. the has one terminal, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened since the has one terminal. yeah putting the R40.42's on the was to kill off the R32's early and it backfired real bad and within 3.5 weeks later the R32's went back to the . this showed how retarded NYCT Ops Planning and car equipment was. As a railfan it was very interesting but it wasn't practical. 11 years later they still want the R32's out with no replacement for the last 100-120 cars. 35 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: If anything, 80 or so will be in storage at Pitkin. No reason not to have longer and trains if these cars still work. During the R160 phase in back in the late 2000s, they want (or wanted) to make sure that C/Rs on all lines in the system have not only operating controls but also a seat as well, including the and . That’s why when the used R40s and R42s in December 2008, they kept them 480 feet long rather than adding two cars per train to make them 600 feet. The B ends of the R40s and R42s did not have operating controls or a seat. Only the A ones did. On top of that, they refused to just add in new C/R boards at all stations because of costs. So they just the R40s and R42s at 480 feet long and stopped at the 10 or S car markers, cashing that 120 feet mad dash in the rear. For the 75 footers on the , it means two T/Os at Euclid Avenue Relay, which does not have a track bed for T/Os to walk to the other end of the train, raising costs, compared to 168th Street Relay, which has a track bed for T/Os to walk to the other end of the train. For the R32s on the , C/Rs don’t get a seat at the B ends, but the B ends of the R32s still have operating controls for C/Rs regardless. That’s why the and car assignment is still the same as always like before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #143 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Union Tpke said: I still don't buy that the R32's retirement is imminent. They aren't that stupid. its rumored the idiot in albany is pushing them to get rid of them by the spring. that's why they want the R46's on the to replace the R32's and have them run on the until they take them out for good. Edited February 24, 2020 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 24, 2020 Share #144 Posted February 24, 2020 23 hours ago, Calvin said: I think the did use an R42 a long time ago, it was 8-cars. Question is: Did it do the 3/4 position like the going to Manhattan? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 24, 2020 Share #145 Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 7:22 PM, Jova42R said: Late April, according to a T/O i talked to. Also, supposedly the R68s are replacing the R32s on the . any insight on that? That T/O is a railfan and not in the Car equipment division. Coney Island yard is having problems with the R46’s they have and do not have enough R68/A equipment to spare. Coney Island recently got two sets of R68’s from Concourse Yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 24, 2020 Share #146 Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, R32 3838 said: its rumored the idiot in albany is pushing them to get rid of them by the spring. that's why they want the R46's on the to replace the R32's and have them run on the until they take them out for good. IMO they should keep 130 R32’s for service and put ins. This way the can have majority of 60ft equipment. But, many operators and conductors complain about the R32’s, so TSS’ push to keep them out of service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #147 Posted February 24, 2020 14 hours ago, VIP said: IMO they should keep 130 R32’s for service and put ins. This way the can have majority of 60ft equipment. But, many operators and conductors complain about the R32’s, so TSS’ push to keep them out of service. I agree with this, just keep the at 7 sets and lay up most of them after the rush. CI is gonna have alot of issues with the R46's because the is gonna run them 24/7 now vs. the which was the only line to run them 24/7 (including both lefferts and rock pk shuttles) the only ran a few overnight as shuttles but the majorty of the 's fleet was laid up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 24, 2020 Share #148 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: I agree with this, just keep the at 7 sets and lay up most of them after the rush. CI is gonna have alot of issues with the R46's because the is gonna run them 24/7 now vs. the which was the only line to run them 24/7 (including both lefferts and rock pk shuttles) the only ran a few overnight as shuttles but the majorty of the 's fleet was laid up I think they should make the 100% R46 but you have Dispatchers and crews at Ditmars that get flustered with sudden changes in service and changing signs... but they should enforce crews on WAA onto the platform and change signs as need be. (Problem solved) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #149 Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, VIP said: I think they should make the 100% R46 but you have Dispatchers and crews at Ditmars that get flustered with sudden changes in service and changing signs... but they should enforce crews on WAA onto the platform and change signs as need be. (Problem solved) What does the acronym WAA stand for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #150 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, danielhg121 said: What does the acronym WAA stand for? Work as Assigned. I have changed signs when our service was screwed up and I was a M/M at the time. We did it to help out because my job didn’t have any WAA time at the Dyre end. I did the same thing earlier in my career when I worked at Lenox on the line. Back then we had a family type atmosphere in RTO where supervision and hourly looked out for each other. I made a trip on the one evening because the Flatbush dispatcher needed someone even though I was a line guy. I liked him and he needed help that night. Word travels fast in RTO and I was looked after by supervision throughout my career. WAA means exactly that but there are some who have to be ordered while my generation took it as “ one hand washes the other “ . Maybe some active RTO folks can elaborate how it works now. Carry on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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