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Worker Who Showed Up Sick Led to Lefferts Blvd (A) Branch Suspension Thursday Night

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https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/queens-subway-left-in-chaos-after-mta-worker-shows-up-sick-prompting-deep-clean/

Coronavirus fears forced the MTA to suspend service on the Ozone Park/Lefferts Boulevard branch of the A train for an hour Thursday night, The Post has learned.

The incident occurred at 9:35 p.m. after a tower operator came to work sick, worrying his colleagues and leading to an emergency shutdown of the facility so it could be deep-cleaned, spokesman Tim Minton said.

“A control tower operator working on the A line in Queens reported feeling sick yesterday evening and per protocol was instructed to leave immediately, along with one co-worker he had been in close contact with, and to contact his doctor,” Minton said.

“The workplace was immediately and aggressively disinfected and our contingency staffing plans were activated to minimize any impact to service,” he added.

The MTA was forced to nix service at the stations along the branch in southeast Queens — 104th Street, 111th Street and Lefferts Boulevard — and divert trains to Far Rockaway.

The tower closure hit straphangers on nearly two dozen trains, records obtained by The Post show. One train turned around, two more discharged passengers and another 18 scheduled trains were canceled.

The MTA advised riders around 10 p.m. Thursday to take the bus instead “because we are unable to operate the track switches near Lefferts Blvd.”

Service resumed at 10:33 p.m.

The MTA has continued to run normal service despite a drastic drop in ridership as New Yorkers stay home to avoid spreading or contracting the disease. The agency said Thursday afternoon that 23 of its employees had tested positive for coronavirus.

Dozens of workers who came in contact with the COVID-19 positives have been quarantined as a result, but the agency is unable to guarantee that every worker can get tested.

“We’re in talks with the MTA about trying to work something out to get our members and maybe first responders tested,” Transport Workers Union Local 100 president Tony Utano said on NY1 Friday afternoon.

“We know the tests are difficult to come across, but we’re in talks right now,” Utano said.

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The tweet(s). I initially thought it was some switch problem when I saw it (which happens on occasion in that area) so I didn't think much of it.

 

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This is getting ridiculous; people can't be panicking at just the slightest sign of illness...

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22 minutes ago, R10 2952 said:

This is getting ridiculous; people can't be panicking at just the slightest sign of illness...

Not everyone can handle getting sick, especially if they have weak immune systems.

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Honestly it’s better to be safe than sorry. Better to send people home than risk the health and lives of others. 

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6 hours ago, R10 2952 said:

This is getting ridiculous; people can't be panicking at just the slightest sign of illness...

Frankly, the MTA spent too much time doing the opposite when they were compelling people to work when they were sick, preventing people from taking precautions to protect themselves or making employees work in areas inhabited by people that had positive  results. 

 

Just because people aren't dropping like Flies doesn't mean the risk isn't serious, Italy had that same attitude in regards to not 'panicking' over 'slight' illness...and right now their country is melting before our eyes. If this is what it takes to prevent my neighbors from suffering the same fate then so be it and if a few dozen people have to take the Q112 from Rockaway Blvd then OH WELL, BOO HOO.

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8 hours ago, R10 2952 said:

This is getting ridiculous; people can't be panicking at just the slightest sign of illness...

Tell me how you’re distinguishing on sight someone sweating, coughing, and wheezing due to flu from one with COVID-19?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/22/coronavirus-what-happens-to-peoples-lungs-when-they-get-covid-19

 

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32 minutes ago, Deucey said:

Tell me how you’re distinguishing on sight someone sweating, coughing, and wheezing due to flu from one with COVID-19?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/22/coronavirus-what-happens-to-peoples-lungs-when-they-get-covid-19

 

thank you. 

because "panicking" is defined by protecting customers & employees alike from a potentially infectious disease with no readily available vaccination/cure. i swear, that comment couldn't have been made by a full grown adult with responsibilities or life experience. anyone who has lived life knows you don't f**k around by putting people's lives (potentially) in danger. even if it turns out to be a negative test result, what fool would chance that? 

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11 hours ago, R10 2952 said:

This is getting ridiculous; people can't be panicking at just the slightest sign of illness...

Even if you're only around low-risk healthy people, if you give it to them they can give it to people who they live with who are at risk. And what, 40% of the people being hospitalized are the "low-risk" group?

I might not be at risk and I might be somewhere else, but I have family in healthcare, and older members of the family. Stay the f**k home.

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Everyone has lost their damn minds.

When a pandemic of truly lethal proportions, like the plague or smallpox emerges, 21st-century society will be completely incapable of dealing with it because the mentality seems to be one of unmitigated panic... the fear-mongering that is going around is out of control, and is doing damage that will last well beyond this coronavirus.  The economic fallout is having a disproportionate effect on those who can't afford it.  Try telling the thousands who already lost their jobs "oh well, you know, better safe than sorry".  Or those who've been sent on unpaid leave "oh, just take out a payday loan".  Or those who are still being required to come to work by their employers "well, somebody sneezed at the train station, guess you're walking to work now".  Or for that matter, the thousands who don't have health insurance "oh, you should get tested".

People are getting shafted hard, but no, these non-proportional responses are entirely justified, all perfectly reasonable... I wonder how many of you will be lining up to help people get back on their feet once this thing passes- or will you all just be sitting around reminiscing "oh this was a terrible pandemic, we barely survived".  I wonder.

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1 hour ago, R10 2952 said:

Everyone has lost their damn minds.

When a pandemic of truly lethal proportions, like the plague or smallpox emerges, 21st-century society will be completely incapable of dealing with it because the mentality seems to be one of unmitigated panic... the fear-mongering that is going around is out of control, and is doing damage that will last well beyond this coronavirus.  The economic fallout is having a disproportionate effect on those who can't afford it.  Try telling the thousands who already lost their jobs "oh well, you know, better safe than sorry".  Or those who've been sent on unpaid leave "oh, just take out a payday loan".  Or those who are still being required to come to work by their employers "well, somebody sneezed at the train station, guess you're walking to work now".  Or for that matter, the thousands who don't have health insurance "oh, you should get tested".

People are getting shafted hard, but no, these non-proportional responses are entirely justified, all perfectly reasonable... I wonder how many of you will be lining up to help people get back on their feet once this thing passes- or will you all just be sitting around reminiscing "oh this was a terrible pandemic, we barely survived".  I wonder.

Truly lethal ? Ask those people in China, Iran, and Italy if they share your point of view. The plague, smallpox, typhoid, TB, the “Spanish” flu were all lethal in their time, right ? What would you consider a proportionate response to those pandemic times ?  I’m truly interested in your point of view. You do realize that all it takes is just a few untreated people in the US, or any country in the world, to bring a local, national, or the international economy and world wide stability crashing which is what intelligent people are trying to avoid. I’m not speaking of the social media “experts” but the doctors, economists, and responsible politicians worldwide who seemed to coalesce around a plan of action. Just my take. We can agree to disagree. No hard feelings. Carry on.

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18 hours ago, R10 2952 said:

Everyone has lost their damn minds.

When a pandemic of truly lethal proportions, like the plague or smallpox emerges, 21st-century society will be completely incapable of dealing with it because the mentality seems to be one of unmitigated panic... the fear-mongering that is going around is out of control, and is doing damage that will last well beyond this coronavirus.  The economic fallout is having a disproportionate effect on those who can't afford it.  Try telling the thousands who already lost their jobs "oh well, you know, better safe than sorry".  Or those who've been sent on unpaid leave "oh, just take out a payday loan".  Or those who are still being required to come to work by their employers "well, somebody sneezed at the train station, guess you're walking to work now".  Or for that matter, the thousands who don't have health insurance "oh, you should get tested".

People are getting shafted hard, but no, these non-proportional responses are entirely justified, all perfectly reasonable... I wonder how many of you will be lining up to help people get back on their feet once this thing passes- or will you all just be sitting around reminiscing "oh this was a terrible pandemic, we barely survived".  I wonder.

Consider that you can reach anyone in the world in at most 6 hops (with some rare exceptions). It’s also called “6 degrees of separation.” Also consider how much physical contact people share.

The virus is now considered to be easily spread by people who do not even show symptoms of being infected.

Learn a few things from zombie apocalypse movies. It takes just one bite. You let that healthy-looking ****** in the safety zone, you’re gonna regret it once the conditions for zombification are met (he dies). Of course, some selfish pricks are going to be in denial, secure compound be damned.

I heard flights are cheap. Perhaps Florida’s beach parties are your calling.

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Well, when this whole thing blows over, we'll see who was right and who was wrong.  When cooler heads prevail... I'll leave it at that.

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2 minutes ago, R10 2952 said:

Well, when this whole thing blows over, we'll see who was right and who was wrong.  When cooler heads prevail... I'll leave it at that.

Yeah doubt it, any scenario that doesn't result in us all dying will allow you and others who are inclined to apathy to declare victory. If the curve does get flattened cases and deaths will be low and a lot of ignorant people will simply say 'see, it wasn't so bad'.

 A majority of people will not be tested even after known personal exposure and the correct constellation of symptoms, so the known case number is already artificially suppressed; of those people that pass not all will be attributed to the virus.

But feel free to post how you think things will play out with some metrics if you're confident in your position.

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1 hour ago, R10 2952 said:

Well, when this whole thing blows over, we'll see who was right and who was wrong.  When cooler heads prevail... I'll leave it at that.

Bet you want to shut down the subway for no reason just like a certain person here does....

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I usually say “follow the money.” But anyone with an agenda on NYCTF is just nuts. There’s 0 power, 0 political influence here. So I say, carry on. I’ll work on my spreadsheet of food supplies and currency/investments. Rationing the **** out of every thing in inventory. Not gonna trust the current governments to get the right things done. Don’t know what’s going to come ahead.

I like to say: “Plan for the worst; but hope for the best.”

The worst plan is no plan at all.

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7 hours ago, CenSin said:

I usually say “follow the money.” But anyone with an agenda on NYCTF is just nuts. There’s 0 power, 0 political influence here. So I say, carry on. I’ll work on my spreadsheet of food supplies and currency/investments. Rationing the **** out of every thing in inventory. Not gonna trust the current governments to get the right things done. Don’t know what’s going to come ahead.

I like to say: “Plan for the worst; but hope for the best.”

The worst plan is no plan at all.

Just let there be a real estate market when this is over so my getting laid off from the day job (Non-real estate) doesn’t hurt. (I have two listings I need to get sold quickly.)

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I really do not get the whole economy argument. What is the point of money if you're not gonna be alive to spend it?

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3 hours ago, bobtehpanda said:

I really do not get the whole economy argument. What is the point of money if you're not gonna be alive to spend it?

People don't think "2%" isn't that big of a number and they think that they can't just shovel some expendable people in the economic firebox and we'll keep chugging along.

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