R10 2952 Posted July 2, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 2, 2020 Don't normally link stuff this long/extensive, but I wanted to reiterate a point I made earlier this week about the current pandemic being more than just about the disease itself. Because solving this crisis is more than just social distancing or developing a vaccine: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted July 13, 2020 Personally, with joblessness and evictions being what they are currently, we're in for an economic slump that's going to last twice as long as the last one, at least. And who's going to bear the brunt of all this? Ordinary working folks- as usual, sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 14, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 14, 2020 9 hours ago, R10 2952 said: Personally, with joblessness and evictions being what they are currently, we're in for an economic slump that's going to last twice as long as the last one, at least. And who's going to bear the brunt of all this? Ordinary working folks- as usual, sadly. Coup de grâce for the middle class.... The rise of the working poor & unemployed.... The virus will take a backseat when people's bank accounts dwindle closer & closer to zero..... Hysterics will mean absolutely nothing when basic survival becomes the concern.... Bad enough the average American only has a couple thousand dollars (if that) in savings..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 14, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 14, 2020 Thirty-two percent of households haven't made their payments in July. Federal unemployment benefits end at the end of this month. It's unfortunate that during this time, president's rambling about statues and the stocks. Most members in congress voted to bail out large corporations with trillions of dollars of taxpayer money and give peanuts to the people who will be most impacted. When times are good these corporations do everything to retain the profits they made, but when times are tough, it's always the taxpayers bailing them out. Corporate socialism at its finest. I know earlier in the year there was people shitting on those who protested on reopening. Sure, you had those who were claiming oppression (lol), but others lost their main source of income, and filing for unemployment benefits was and still is a colossal nightmare. From the beginning, a recurring payment should have been sent to cover losses. You're going to have a lot more people now making decisions such as how to ration food and medicine in order to pay rent or make house payments. Of course, have Steve Mnuchin tell you, the initial coronavirus package (including the one-time stimulus checks and federal unemployment) can sustain us for about 10 weeks. If that was the case, you wouldn't have had unemplyment websites and phone lines at capacity and/or crashing, nor would you have small business loans going to large corporations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 14, 2020 Share #5 Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Thirty-two percent of households haven't made their payments in July. Federal unemployment benefits end at the end of this month. It's unfortunate that during this time, president's rambling about statues and the stocks. Most members in congress voted to bail out large corporations with trillions of dollars of taxpayer money and give peanuts to the people who will be most impacted. When times are good these corporations do everything to retain the profits they made, but when times are tough, it's always the taxpayers bailing them out. Corporate socialism at its finest. I know earlier in the year there was people shitting on those who protested on reopening. Sure, you had those who were claiming oppression (lol), but others lost their main source of income, and filing for unemployment benefits was and still is a colossal nightmare. From the beginning, a recurring payment should have been sent to cover losses. You're going to have a lot more people now making decisions such as how to ration food and medicine in order to pay rent or make house payments. Of course, have Steve Mnuchin tell you, the initial coronavirus package (including the one-time stimulus checks and federal unemployment) can sustain us for about 10 weeks. If that was the case, you wouldn't have had unemplyment websites and phone lines at capacity and/or crashing, nor would you have small business loans going to large corporations. See, if we had actual representation in the government, we wouldn't be worrying about everything. The people who are saying to vote for Biden are so focused on getting Trump out that nothing substantial matters. (Making matters worse, too many of the issues we currently face have his name attached to them.) Thus far, many of my votes have been against someone else, as opposed to for the one I marked. I'm done with that. Perhaps I'll join a party that actually wants to help people, but for now, I'll just stay out of the primaries (damn state law essentially tries to force people into parties, rather than forcing parties to reach people). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 14, 2020 Share #6 Posted July 14, 2020 11 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Of course, have Steve Mnuchin tell you, the initial coronavirus package (including the one-time stimulus checks and federal unemployment) can sustain us for about 10 weeks. If that was the case, you wouldn't have had unemplyment websites and phone lines at capacity and/or crashing, nor would you have small business loans going to large corporations. Don't know who this person is, but rich people are often out of touch with the common man.... The stimulus package AFAIC was a "test" for UBI.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 14, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, B35 via Church said: Don't know who this person is, but rich people are often out of touch with the common man.... The stimulus package AFAIC was a "test" for UBI.... He's a Goldman Sachs guy, which is how he ended up as Secretary of the Treasury... Of course the government won't be willing to try UBI in the middle of a pandemic. That would mean paying attention to the needs of the people instead of deepthroating the wealthy and corporations, which want more power... Edited July 14, 2020 by Lex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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