Q43LTD Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share #176 Posted September 7, 2020 Speaking of the Q1, I always wondered why it never said via Hillside or have a short turn at Springfield where the branches split. I guess I'm being nitpicky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 7, 2020 Share #177 Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Q43LTD said: Speaking of the Q1, I always wondered why it never said via Hillside or have a short turn at Springfield where the branches split. I guess I'm being nitpicky. The Q1 is basically a short-turn Q43 with a bit of extra coverage past the short-turn point. So you're basically asking for a short-turn of a short-turn lol In any case, the short-turn point would be too close to the main terminal to be worth the confusion. Not to mention the branches of the Q1 are infrequent as-is so they can't afford to lose frequency by not having all the buses go there. (Plus one of those branches is right by the depot, so the cost savings would be nil...probably ends of costing revenue if the passengers get fed up and use an alternative mode of transportation due to the infrequency of that branch) But I do agree 100% with the "via Hillside" portion. 17 hours ago, B35 via Church said: Q21/Q41: I don't see why they'd only display the via Lindenwood in one direction over the other, when they serve Lindenwood in both directions..... I'd lean towards removing the via Lindenwood bit (regardless of direction traveled)... The logic I can see is because people going to Lindenwood are significantly more likely to be coming from points north vs. points south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted September 7, 2020 Share #178 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) Bx99: West Village ÷ Via ? It'll be an interesting spin to the 99 routes to have the routes that they follow as a via sign. Edited September 7, 2020 by NBTA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 7, 2020 Share #179 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said: The logic I can see is because people going to Lindenwood are significantly more likely to be coming from points north vs. points south. Not displaying Lindenwood on the NB buses gives off the impression that the bus doesn't serve Lindenwood in that direction.... That's not something I would bother taking a chance with.... AFAIC, they should've never added that via Lindenwood bit in the first place.... 4 hours ago, Q43LTD said: Speaking of the Q1, I always wondered why it never said via Hillside or have a short turn at Springfield where the branches split. I guess I'm being nitpicky. Wait, so are you saying that there should be Q1's running between 165th & Springfield/Hillside? If it's anything that should be short turning over there, it should be the Q43.... Personally, I would do away with the damn thing (Q1) and run Q43's down Braddock as a short turn of it (the Q43).... Edited September 7, 2020 by B35 via Church 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share #180 Posted September 7, 2020 5 hours ago, B35 via Church said: Wait, so are you saying that there should be Q1's running between 165th & Springfield/Hillside? If it's anything that should be short turning over there, it should be the Q43.... Personally, I would do away with the damn thing (Q1) and run Q43's down Braddock as a short turn of it (the Q43).... Well in the redesign, Braddock won't have any bus service. There should be no Q1's short turning at Springfield, I was just asking why there was no code for it. Like one of those rarely used codes like the Q5 to Baisley or the 83 to Francis Lewis. That's all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 7, 2020 Share #181 Posted September 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Q43LTD said: Speaking of the Q1, I always wondered why it never said via Hillside or have a short turn at Springfield where the branches split. I guess I'm being nitpicky. 2 hours ago, Q43LTD said: There should be no Q1's short turning at Springfield, I was just asking why there was no code for it. Like one of those rarely used codes like the Q5 to Baisley or the 83 to Francis Lewis. That's all. ....then why would there be a code for it? I don't really get what you're saying. Are you trying to say the Q1 does (or used to) short turn at Springfield/Hillside & there's no code for it? Otherwise, none of this is making sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 7, 2020 Share #182 Posted September 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Q43LTD said: Well in the redesign, Braddock won't have any bus service. Well, in the first draft of the redesign. That move is one of those that has gotten a lot of heat, and I see them changing that when it comes time to release the final draft (I would just have the QT18 run down Braddock). In addition to providing coverage in that area, it also gives another connection from Jamaica Avenue to the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted September 8, 2020 Share #183 Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 2:33 AM, B35 via Church said: Q54: Nothing anal whatsoever about expecting a route (that travels the amt. of mileage from end to end that it does) that spends at least 2/3-rds of the route on one street, to at least have a "via" of that street on the signage..... I see no reason that the thing shouldn't display via Metropolitan (or whatever spin you wanna put on it).... One thing I would not add to it though, is anything showing that it deviates to serve that POS mall..... Agreed 100% about that damn Atlas Park reroute they did back in '08-'09. There was no passenger demand for that mall to begin with- it then turned up in the local press that a higher-level exec at the MTA (Dale Hemmerdinger) was close family/friends with one of the real estate cats who owned the place, so that's pretty much where the push was coming from. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 8, 2020 Share #184 Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, R10 2952 said: Agreed 100% about that damn Atlas Park reroute they did back in '08-'09. There was no passenger demand for that mall to begin with- it then turned up in the local press that a higher-level exec at the MTA (Dale Hemmerdinger) was close family/friends with one of the real estate cats who owned the place, so that's pretty much where the push was coming from. Right... One of the worst locations to have wanted to build a mall at to begin with & on top of it, had the Q54 deviated along Cooper (which made the route that much slower overall) to serve it.... Edited September 8, 2020 by B35 via Church 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share #185 Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, R10 2952 said: Agreed 100% about that damn Atlas Park reroute they did back in '08-'09. There was no passenger demand for that mall to begin with- it then turned up in the local press that a higher-level exec at the MTA (Dale Hemmerdinger) was close family/friends with one of the real estate cats who owned the place, so that's pretty much where the push was coming from. If I'm not mistaken, the Q54 started serving Atlas in 2007. Later it was the now defunct Q45 in 2008. They were really reaching for customers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 8, 2020 Share #186 Posted September 8, 2020 @Q43LTD That is correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted September 8, 2020 Share #187 Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, B35 via Church said: Right... One of the worst locations to have wanted to build a mall at to begin with & on top of it, had the Q54 deviated along Cooper (which made the route that much slower overall) to serve it.... that left turn off of 80th onto Cooper is one of the worst left turns for b/o's imo (ralph into flatlands being another) which absolutely slows things down, and that stupid mini-bay for the 54 stop is friggin' tedious. I've seen plenty of b/o's not even bother attempt to squeeze into it Edited September 8, 2020 by EastFlatbushLarry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer C40LFR Posted September 13, 2020 Share #188 Posted September 13, 2020 On 8/20/2020 at 10:48 PM, Q43LTD said: What are some signs that are incorrect to you? Examples: The Bx36 says Soundview when it ends in Castle Hill The Q42 destination sign says Addisleigh Park but the schedule says St Albans The Q28 destination says Bay Terrace. Schedule says Bayside On the Queens bus map notes, the Q45 ended at Juniper Valley. Looking at a map, it's the Elmhurst-Middle Village border. The M14A saying West Side, when it has 2 eastern terminals at Abingdon Square and Chelsea Piers. The Manhattan crosstown routes saying East Side and West Side. i think that the bx36 does'nt really matter, that area is soundview. q42 and q28 - idk bc i almost never go to queens m14a - abingdon sq yes, chelsea piers no. 18 st is too far from 23 st - it can be confusing. crosstown - imo only ones that should be changed are: m8 greenwich village to alphabet city m50 west side pier to united nations north m72 riverside south to yorkville 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share #189 Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, New Flyer C40LFR said: i think that the bx36 does'nt really matter, that area is soundview. q42 and q28 - idk bc i almost never go to queens m14a - abingdon sq yes, chelsea piers no. 18 st is too far from 23 st - it can be confusing. crosstown - imo only ones that should be changed are: m8 greenwich village to alphabet city m50 west side pier to united nations north m72 riverside south to yorkville Nope. Soundview is west of WPR. That area is Castle Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 13, 2020 Share #190 Posted September 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Q43LTD said: Nope. Soundview is west of WPR. That area is Castle Hill That comment doesn't surprise me.... Many people tend to consider that whole immediate area between Bronx River (the actual river, not the projects... lol) & Westchester Creek as all being Soundview.... You seldom ever hear anyone make reference to Unionport. Only real reference you'll hear Castle Hill being made to by most people, is the street itself, or the projects.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted September 13, 2020 Share #191 Posted September 13, 2020 11 hours ago, New Flyer C40LFR said: m14a - abingdon sq yes, chelsea piers no. 18 st is too far from 23 st - it can be confusing. M14A doesn't go to Chelsea Piers. M14D does. The Chelsea Piers complex has entrances along its whole length from 17th to 22nd. Which one you need depends on which area you're visiting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer C40LFR Posted September 13, 2020 Share #192 Posted September 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: M14A doesn't go to Chelsea Piers. M14D does. The Chelsea Piers complex has entrances along its whole length from 17th to 22nd. Which one you need depends on which area you're visiting. i know that lol. but chelsea piers is usually associated with 23st so thats why. two more: m5 midtown//31st-6av ÷ m5 via riverside//via 5av m5 washington heights//gwb terminal ÷ m5 via 6 av//via riverside m60 morningside heights//bway-106st ÷ m60 via astoria bl//via 125st m60 laguradia airport ÷ m60 via 125 st//via astoria bl 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted September 15, 2020 Share #193 Posted September 15, 2020 Speaking of incorrect signs, it's always funny to see a bus have the wrong direction in a sign. You sitting at Jackson Heights, while the Q53 that's coming towards you says Woodside, even though it's going towards QCM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 16, 2020 Share #194 Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, NBTA said: Speaking of incorrect signs, it's always funny to see a bus have the wrong direction in a sign. You sitting at Jackson Heights, while the Q53 that's coming towards you says Woodside, even though it's going towards QCM. I understand how a b/o can easily forget to change the sign, but this is still something that irritates me from time to time.... Some people have a tendency to put menial tasks off to the side; procrastinate... I'm the opposite - I get all the easy shit out the way fast, so I can focus on the more difficult stuff.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share #195 Posted September 16, 2020 I always hated that. Just change the sign as soon you're at the terminal. Don't wait until halfway to the terminal to change it. Especially if you're the Q5 still saying Jamaica and people are asking are you going to Rosedale or Green Acres. Usually, the fare box changes the sign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B38articbusfna Posted November 26, 2020 Share #196 Posted November 26, 2020 heres what i dont get i saw a hour ago a B61 saying queens plaza it hasnt gone there for years then i saw a B13 saying graham ave metropolitan ave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B38articbusfna Posted November 26, 2020 Share #197 Posted November 26, 2020 like really mta if your gonna make the busses say this stuff make em stay saying that stuff basically bring em back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share #198 Posted December 2, 2020 The Q103 and 104 saying Long Island City when they end in Hunters Point and Ravenswood respectively 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 2, 2020 Share #199 Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Q43LTD said: The Q103 and 104 saying Long Island City when they end in Hunters Point and Ravenswood respectively I'm done, if they change the Q18, 19, 102, and 103 in Astoria to end up reading "Hallets Point". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lornaevo Posted December 2, 2020 Share #200 Posted December 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, B35 via Church said: I'm done, if they change the Q18, 19, 102, and 103 in Astoria to end up reading "Hallets Point". “The Hole” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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