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NICE to get 60 Gillig buses to replace Orions


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11 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

Photo from a Facebook group:

Do you have the specs of the new Gilligs? If not, does anyone else or can you ask the person in the FB group as long as they're sharing things?

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On 6/11/2021 at 1:18 PM, MTABusTransitFanner said:

From what ik, the Gilligs have the Cummins Westport L9N and Allison B400R transmission.

Allison again huh? I kinda miss the ZF transmissions when it was on the Orion V before retirement. I guess they might never go back to ZF.

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9 hours ago, RSMG106 said:

Allison again huh? I kinda miss the ZF transmissions when it was on the Orion V before retirement. I guess they might never go back to ZF.

Since when did they have ZF transmissions?

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I miss those Orion V CNG’s with the Cummins L10G engines. Used to love hearing those things roar along Hillside Ave. There were even some that could whistle haha. 
 

These new CNG buses aren’t the same.

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1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

A mix of buses from the 95-96 fleet had ZFs.

Well, if they'd be about as old as me if they still existed, I'd definitely have no memory of them. I didn't have any real exposure to Nassau's buses until a few years ago, especially since almost all of my travel east of Queens (prior to my aunt leaving for NJ) was done by the railroad, and said travel would be between Brooklyn and Central Islip. (The rest was done by car.)

If the powertrains were swapped out for the Series 50G and B400, I'd never know unless someone told me.

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6 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

 

The 1400s with the Cummins engines had ZFs in them.

 

they were the renumbered 1800's that had the ZF's, the 1400's had the B400R

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4 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

I miss those Orion V CNG’s with the Cummins L10G engines. Used to love hearing those things roar along Hillside Ave. There were even some that could whistle haha. 
 

These new CNG buses aren’t the same.

they used to all ring when they were brand new. 1438,1518 (the best one) 1522 and 1523 all rang until the end.

 

here's 1518 ringing it's ass off

 

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On 6/26/2021 at 1:15 PM, aemoreira81 said:

I have to wonder why only 60, when the batch being replaced was originally 1700-1799, although more artics would make more sense to convert the 4/6/40/41 to all articulated operation.

It's actually 80 units. The 2019 and 2021 Xcelsiors, a round of 30 buses (1970-1999) filled in a gap of retired NGS. 

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On 6/26/2021 at 1:15 PM, aemoreira81 said:

I have to wonder why only 60, when the batch being replaced was originally 1700-1799, although more artics would make more sense to convert the 4/6/40/41 to all articulated operation.

Does the N20 warrant any artic consideration?

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55 minutes ago, lil hershey said:

The n20G is for sure to get artics.

n20G does not require articulated service. It simply needs more service.

In fact most NICE bus service could use more frequency vs bigger buses

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On 6/29/2021 at 10:06 AM, Railfanner Jake said:

Got word and saw pictures for myself. #2000 and #2003 are at Mitchell field. Plates just arrived, guy in an FB group said they should be on the road in three weeks tops. Also confirmed that #2001 is enroute spotted in Tennessee yesterday. 

 

 

 

Guess it’s time to get those last rides in on those 1700 NG’s. Every time I’ve use the n4 I either catch the 1800 series NG’s/ 3G’s or the XN40’s. I know they run on the route because I caught one months ago but ever since then no luck. 

Fanning Nassau routes can be quite annoying, because it’s out of the way (for even myself and I live in eastern Queens) and in general more time consuming than fanning city routes. Back in April I fanned the n24 from Jamaica to RFM then waited a good while for the n22 to Hicksville. At Hicksville I caught the n20H to Great Neck and then the n20G to Main Street/ Roosevelt Ave and all of that took about 4 hours to do.
 

Anyone know how many buses from the 1700’s batch are currently retired? 

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18 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Guess it’s time to get those last rides in on those 1700 NG’s. Every time I’ve use the n4 I either catch the 1800 series NG’s/ 3G’s or the XN40’s. I know they run on the route because I caught one months ago but ever since then no luck. 

Fanning Nassau routes can be quite annoying, because it’s out of the way (for even myself and I live in eastern Queens) and in general more time consuming than fanning city routes. Back in April I fanned the n24 from Jamaica to RFM then waited a good while for the n22 to Hicksville. At Hicksville I caught the n20H to Great Neck and then the n20G to Main Street/ Roosevelt Ave and all of that took about 4 hours to do.
 

Anyone know how many buses from the 1700’s batch are currently retired? 

This is the current list of retired 1700s I've made. 

5/11/21 1703, 1707, 1711 1727, 1737, 1758 previously retired

5/25/21: 13 next gens retired from Nice and up for auction. Units are as follows in number order. 1700, 1702, 1706, 1738, 1743, 1746, 1747, 1749, 1750, 1760, 1774, 1780, 1796

5/29/21:1717 parted out and retired 

6/17/21:1737 brought back into service

6/23/21: 1751 retired

6/27/21: 1702 purchased by Merrick F.D for fire and accident training purposes. 

So, we're at 20 units down at the moment

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On 7/4/2021 at 11:36 AM, Railfanner Jake said:

This is the current list of retired 1700s I've made. 

5/11/21 1703, 1707, 1711 1727, 1737, 1758 previously retired

5/25/21: 13 next gens retired from Nice and up for auction. Units are as follows in number order. 1700, 1702, 1706, 1738, 1743, 1746, 1747, 1749, 1750, 1760, 1774, 1780, 1796

5/29/21:1717 parted out and retired 

6/17/21:1737 brought back into service

6/23/21: 1751 retired

6/27/21: 1702 purchased by Merrick F.D for fire and accident training purposes. 

So, we're at 20 units down at the moment

I'm the person who reported 1717 was retired that day if you didn't know, I have evidence right here on my Instagram btw: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPeCMT8nEc0/

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