FamousNYLover Posted October 31, 2008 #1 Posted October 31, 2008 Just fantasy idea. Create Bus Transitway for entire length of 125th St from Morningside Av to 1st Av. Non-bus eastbound traffic will be using Hancock Place from 125th St to Malcolm X Blvd, then 122nd St to Mad Av, 124th St to Bridge, or 1st Av-bound go via 2nd Av, 120th St, 1st Av including for Willis Av Bridge. Bus change. M35 Manhattan Pattern: Island-bound will turn left at 125th St Busway after picking up passenger at current stop, making same stop as M60/M100/Bx15 to 2nd Av, then going over Triboro Bridge and return trip will use 125th St, turn right at 3rd Av, turn left at 127th St, then terminate. M100: Extend service to LGA via M60 to create M100 Select Bus Service, while local buses remain normal and and terminate at normal terminal. M100 will use same Orion Bus from Bee-Line Express Bus with compartment above it. Following stops on M101SBS. 9th Av/125th St 215th St & 10th Av-Broadway (1)/ Broadway/207th St: Bx12SBS/(A)/BxM1 Broadway/Dyckman St (Cloisters) Broadway/192nd St Broadway/178th St (GWB) (Bronx bus connections) Broadway/168th St (M2, M3, etc/(A) St. Nicholas Av/164th St Amsterdam Av/155th St: Bx6 Amsterdam Av/145th St Bx19 Amsterdam Av/136th St: M15 connection at 135th St. 125th St/St. Nicholas Av: M3, M18, (© 125th St/Malcolm X Blvd: M7, M102, . 125th St/Park Av-Lexington Av: M35/Weekday Rush Hour M98/M101/ M103/ MNRR, and future 125th St/2nd Av:Bx15/M15/future M15SBS Hoyt Av/31st St: M60/Q19 Astoria Blvd/Steinway St: Q101. 82nd St/Astoria Blvd-23rd Av: Q19/Q33/Q47/Q48/Q69 23rd Av/87th St: M60/Q33/Q48 94th St/23rd Av: M60/Q33/Q48/Q72 Delta Terminal US Airways Departure Central Terminal B Marine Air Terminal. Return to Inwood Delta Terminal US Airways Departure Central Terminal B Marine Air Terminal. Ditmars Blvd/81st St: Q19, Q33/Q48/Q48/Q69 Astoria Blvd/Steinway St: Q19/Q101 Hoyt Av/31st St: Q19 125th St/2nd Av:Bx15/M15/ future M15SBS/M100 local 125th St/Lexington-Park Avs: M35/Weekday Rush Hour M98/M101/ M103/ MNRR, and future 125th St/Malcolm X Blvd: M7/M102/(2) 125th St/St. Nicholas Av: M3/M18/(A) 125th St/Amsterdam Av: Bx15/M100 local/M101/M104 Amsterdam Av/135th St: M11 Amsterdam Av/145th St: Bx19 Amsterdam Av/155th St: Bx6 St. Nicholas Av/163rd St St. Nicholas Av/167th St M2/M3/M100 Local/(1) Broadway/178th St: GWB at 175th St Broadway/Bennett Av: Broadway/Dyckman St Broadway/Isham St: Bx12 SBS/(A) 9th Av/Broadway BxM6/BxM7/BxM7A/BxM7B/BxM9/BxM10/BxM11 non-stop path implement. Bronx-bound buses will travel regular route on 3rd Av, turn right at 125th St, then proceed onto Triboro Bridge. Bx11 Southbound will remain on 125th St to 5th Av, turn left at 124th St, turn left at Mt. Morris Park West, turn left at 120th St, turn right at 5th Av, regular route. At LaGuardia Airport, relocate Change Machine next to public bus stop, so tourists can change their dollar bills at bus stop. M101 SBS will provide one seat ride bet. Inwood/Ft. George/Washington Heights to Astoria/East Elmhurst/LGA Airport. Q69: Extend to Central Terminal and Marine Air Q69 will turn left at 23rd Av, stopping only at 82nd St, 87th St, then turn left at 94th St, stopping at 23rd Av, Ditmars Blvd, entering LGA, stopping only at Long Term Parking Lot, Delta, US Airways Departure Only, and non-stop to Central Terminal B, then non-stop to Marine Air Terminal, then stopping at Ditmars Blvd/81st St, Astoria Blvd/82nd St, then regular route. What do you think of my fantasy idea?
MTR Admiralty Posted October 31, 2008 #2 Posted October 31, 2008 Just fantasy idea.Create Bus Transitway for entire length of 125th St from Morningside Av to 1st Av. Non-bus eastbound traffic will be using Hancock Place from 125th St to Malcolm X Blvd, then 122nd St to Mad Av, 124th St to Bridge, or 1st Av-bound go via 2nd Av, 120th St, 1st Av including for Willis Av Bridge. Bus change. M35 Manhattan Pattern: Island-bound will turn left at 125th St Busway after picking up passenger at current stop, making same stop as M60/M100/Bx15 to 2nd Av, then going over Triboro Bridge and return trip will use 125th St, turn right at 3rd Av, turn left at 127th St, then terminate. M100: Extend service to LGA via M60 to create M100 Select Bus Service, while local buses remain normal and and terminate at normal terminal. M100 will use same Orion Bus from Bee-Line Express Bus with compartment above it. Following stops on M101SBS. 9th Av/125th St 215th St & 10th Av-Broadway Broadway/207th St Broadway/Dyckman St (Cloisters) Broadway/192nd St Broadway/178th St (GWB) (Bronx bus connections) Broadway/168th St (M2, M3, etc/(A)/© St. Nicholas Av/164th St (A/C) Amsterdam Av/155th St: Bx6 Amsterdam Av/145th St Bx19 Amsterdam Av/136th St: M15 connection at 135th St. 125th St/St. Nicholas Av: M3, M18, (© 125th St/Malcolm X Blvd: M7, M102, . 125th St/Park Av-Lexington Av: M35/Weekday Rush Hour M98/M101/ M103/ MNRR, and future 125th St/2nd Av:Bx15/M15/future M15SBS Hoyt Av/31st St: M60/Q19 Astoria Blvd/Steinway St: Q101. 82nd St/Astoria Blvd-23rd Av: Q19/Q33/Q47/Q48/Q69 23rd Av/87th St: M60/Q33/Q48 94th St/23rd Av: M60/Q33/Q48/Q72 Delta Terminal US Airways Departure Central Terminal B Marine Air Terminal. Return to Inwood Delta Terminal US Airways Departure Central Terminal B Marine Air Terminal. Ditmars Blvd/81st St: Q19, Q33/Q48/Q48/Q69 Astoria Blvd/Steinway St: Q19/Q101 Hoyt Av/31st St: Q19 125th St/2nd Av:Bx15/M15/ future M15SBS/M100 local 125th St/Lexington-Park Avs: M35/Weekday Rush Hour M98/M101/ M103/ MNRR, and future 125th St/Malcolm X Blvd: M7/M102/(2) 125th St/St. Nicholas Av: M3/M18/(A) 125th St/Amsterdam Av: Bx15/M100 local/M101/M104 Amsterdam Av/135th St Amsterdam Av/145th St Amsterdam Av/155th St St. Nicholas Av/163rd St St. Nicholas Av/167th St Broadway/178th St Broadway/Bennett Av Broadway/Dyckman St Broadway/Isham St: Bx12 SBS 9th Av/Broadway BxM6/BxM7/BxM7A/BxM7B/BxM9/BxM10/BxM11 non-stop path implement. Bronx-bound buses will travel regular route on 3rd Av, turn right at 125th St, then proceed onto Triboro Bridge. Bx11 Southbound will remain on 125th St to 5th Av, turn left at 124th St, turn left at Mt. Morris Park West, turn left at 120th St, turn right at 5th Av, regular route. At LaGuardia Airport, relocate Change Machine next to public bus stop, so tourists can change their dollar bills at bus stop. M101 SBS will provide one seat ride bet. Inwood/Ft. George/Washington Heights to Astoria/East Elmhurst/LGA Airport. Q69: Extend to Central Terminal and Marine Air Q69 will turn left at 23rd Av, stopping only at 82nd St, 87th St, then turn left at 94th St, stopping at 23rd Av, Ditmars Blvd, entering LGA, stopping only at Long Term Parking Lot, Delta, US Airways Departure Only, and non-stop to Central Terminal B, then non-stop to Marine Air Terminal, then stopping at Ditmars Blvd/81st St, Astoria Blvd/82nd St, then regular route. What do you think of my fantasy idea? The 125th Street Corridor is madness for traffic. I was on the BX15 once, the bus inched to the nearest signal. Stopped. Then it started. Stopped at the stop. Tried to fight its way back to the traffic. Stuck. Moved with others on the green (half a block away) stopped in front of the signal. *Repeat* I'm not sure how a 125th Street Busway would work, but I'm pretty sure, if you force all other cars to use other streets, the locals would be fuming.
FamousNYLover Posted October 31, 2008 Author #3 Posted October 31, 2008 From Madison Av to 2nd Av, it's 124th St for non-buses.
MTR Admiralty Posted October 31, 2008 #4 Posted October 31, 2008 From Madison Av to 2nd Av, it's 124th St for non-buses. Ah. The M15 SBS, when implemented, will probably serve the length of 125th after 1st Avenue.
PATCOman Posted October 31, 2008 #5 Posted October 31, 2008 How can the M35 keep the current stop and make a left turn on 125 Street?
FamousNYLover Posted October 31, 2008 Author #6 Posted October 31, 2008 How can the M35 keep the current stop and make a left turn on 125 Street? I meant only Lexington Av/125th St M35 will remain normal. 124th St and 126th St bus stop will be made on 125th St Transitway.
PATCOman Posted October 31, 2008 #7 Posted October 31, 2008 The stop is on the corner of Lexington Avenue and 125 Street. For a M35 to make a left on 125 Street, the bus will need to cut through traffic.
FamousNYLover Posted October 31, 2008 Author #8 Posted October 31, 2008 In my fantasy, 125th St will be Buses Only. There will be special traffic sensor for bus only left turn signal (similar to what M4/Q32 bus will do at 34th St/7th Av.)
R32 3348 Posted October 31, 2008 #9 Posted October 31, 2008 In my fantasy, 125th St will be Buses Only.There will be special traffic sensor for bus only left turn signal (similar to what M4/Q32 bus will do at 34th St/7th Av.) How? Isn't 125th St. where the Triboro Bridge ramps are? Making 125th bus-only would be impossible then.
FamousNYLover Posted October 31, 2008 Author #10 Posted October 31, 2008 How? Isn't 125th St. where the Triboro Bridge ramps are? Making 125th bus-only would be impossible then. There is 124th St entrance and 126th St exit ramp used by M35 and commercial traffic and current Bronx-Manhattan buses.
UlmerPark B6 Posted October 31, 2008 #11 Posted October 31, 2008 In my fantasy, 125th St will be Buses Only.There will be special traffic sensor for bus only left turn signal (similar to what M4/Q32 bus will do at 34th St/7th Av.) There are lots of stores on 125th Street commercial or business buildings like MLB Network studios so its impossible.
J/M/Z Bowery Posted December 31, 2009 #12 Posted December 31, 2009 Rather than close 125th St to traffic, establish something similar to 34th St. Instead of having the bus lane in the right lane, I picture the bus lane being in the left lanes, with a center island at each bus stop. The outer lane will be for non buses, with no left turns allowed. There can be loading/unloading zones along the curb at sections of the roadway away from the bus stops. Combine that with heavier enforcement against blocking the box at 125th st and bus traffic should be able to run much faster.
Luis1985 Posted December 31, 2009 #13 Posted December 31, 2009 traffic on 34 St is still slow. otherwise, the idea isnt so bad.
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