AJ023 Posted November 8, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 8, 2008 November 8, 2008 New F Trains on the Way! Hey there fellow F train straphangers, good news is rolling into a station near you sometime soon. Control Geek has a report from this morning: "I was waiting for the F subway at 15th Street/Prospect Park Brooklyn this morning and a brand new train came in! Apparently they were testing it, it had the automated announcements and everything. To keep people from boarding, they were opening the doors on the wrong side." Lost City also spotted the test trains (and their "folding, Paris-Metro-like seats") a few weeks ago. Now that the F has caught up and ditched the yellow, orange and brown color scheme...is it time to work on the seatless subways of the future? Source - http://www.gothamist.com Has there been more deliveries of R160 to the Jamaica Yard or are people still seeing the same test train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 8, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 8, 2008 November 8, 2008New F Trains on the Way! Hey there fellow F train straphangers, good news is rolling into a station near you sometime soon. Control Geek has a report from this morning: "I was waiting for the F subway at 15th Street/Prospect Park Brooklyn this morning and a brand new train came in! Apparently they were testing it, it had the automated announcements and everything. To keep people from boarding, they were opening the doors on the wrong side." Lost City also spotted the test trains (and their "folding, Paris-Metro-like seats") a few weeks ago. Now that the F has caught up and ditched the yellow, orange and brown color scheme...is it time to work on the seatless subways of the future? Source - http://www.gothamist.com Has there been more deliveries of R160 to the Jamaica Yard or are people still seeing the same test train? They have been testing the R160s on the following Queens Blvd Lines . I do not think there are more deliveries to JY. Safely sepeaking however, they would probably arrive in bulk next year. Now some pics from Control Geek: No cars numbers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 8, 2008 Share #3 Posted November 8, 2008 Broken links. The R160s aren't at Jamaica Yard, except maybe 1 or 2 10-car sets. IDT they're seatless either but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 8, 2008 Share #4 Posted November 8, 2008 Broken links. The R160s aren't at Jamaica Yard, except maybe 1 or 2 10-car sets. IDT they're seatless either but I could be wrong. They're not seat-less, they are probably the flippie seats, except, all the seats on the cars would be flippies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted November 8, 2008 Share #5 Posted November 8, 2008 I like the fact that there are new trains, but I don't like seatless cars. If you pay money to use the subway then you at least have a chance of getting a seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 8, 2008 Share #6 Posted November 8, 2008 I like the fact that there are new trains, but I don't like seatless cars. If you pay money to use the subway then you at least have a chance of getting a seat. Yeah, like what happens when a pregnant woman walks in and can't find a seat because they're all locked up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted November 8, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 8, 2008 The seatless thing will never fly in this city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 8, 2008 Share #8 Posted November 8, 2008 The seatless thing will never fly in this city. Yeah, people will just bring their own chairs into the subway, like that lib from Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 8, 2008 Share #9 Posted November 8, 2008 Yeah, people will just bring their own chairs into the subway, like that lib from Queens. The MTA then would probably create some new ridiculous rule: No personal furniture in subway cars. And go about fining people for taking folding chairs into the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 8, 2008 Share #10 Posted November 8, 2008 The seatless trains will still have cars with seats in them for people with disabilities. It's a band-aid solution though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted November 8, 2008 Share #11 Posted November 8, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 8, 2008 Share #12 Posted November 8, 2008 I hope that was a test set, if that was a revenue service set, i'd kill you..... Kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R421969 Posted November 9, 2008 Share #13 Posted November 9, 2008 okay this is getting boring...wtf is with all the R160's? its very annoying...like paint one of those MF's red or some sh*t...switch it up something...man lol. If the r179's are real they better have some color 2 em or something...wud love a slant throwback...frickin blinking headlights...distinction please, (NYCT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ023 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share #14 Posted November 9, 2008 R160 with passenger on the right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Charles Posted November 9, 2008 Share #15 Posted November 9, 2008 At my home station?! I better have my camera ready. Well I think this set was in testing. I don't think the had any service advisories this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 9, 2008 Share #16 Posted November 9, 2008 R160 with passenger on the right? I think it's a schoolcar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ023 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share #17 Posted November 9, 2008 Revenue service won't be long from now depending on how fast deliveries of the new R160's come in. If they come in quickly then more R32's will be discarded and more R160's will appear on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioguy Posted November 9, 2008 Share #18 Posted November 9, 2008 If the r179's are real they better have some color 2 em or something...wud love a slant throwback...frickin blinking headlights...distinction please, (NYCT) I would love it if 179s were slants. Considering that they knew they would be reefing them by now, they surely could have been considerate enough to acknowledge the feeling of loss among riders, and incorporate a slant to the design. Then again, you have to realize who we're dealing with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted November 9, 2008 Share #19 Posted November 9, 2008 I would love it if 179s were slants. Considering that they knew they would be reefing them by now, they surely could have been considerate enough to acknowledge the feeling of loss among riders, and incorporate a slant to the design. I was never a fan of the R-40 Slant design. I've only known it in its pre-GOH state with all of its gear at the slant-ends which I've always found ugly. However, with 4 or 5-car units, the slant design could be successful unlike it was R-40 married couples. Since the slant would only be at operating ends of the cars on 5-car units, there would be no need for the amount of pantograph-gates (gear) since no passengers would be able to pass between the cars, except during rare evacuations in which case the train would be stopped anyway. I've heard that the initially proposed design for the R-40S was going to have them in 4 or 5-car sets, which may have been why the slant-ends were designed in the first place. That said, the streamlined styles are fading out in favor of the sleek black ends. It also looks like the is moving towards a uniformed style the way they did in the 1970s with the "(NYCT) silver & blue" paint-scheme followed by the M1-based design of the R-40M–68s. I doubt we'll see any slants make a revival in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustitution Posted November 9, 2008 Share #20 Posted November 9, 2008 The seatless thing will never fly in this city. Hey anything to fit more people on a transit vehicle. Hmmm, You just gave SEPTA an idea.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R421969 Posted November 9, 2008 Share #21 Posted November 9, 2008 I was never a fan of the R-40 Slant design. I've only known it in its pre-GOH state with all of its gear at the slant-ends which I've always found ugly. However, with 4 or 5-car units, the slant design could be successful unlike it was R-40 married couples. Since the slant would only be at operating ends of the cars on 5-car units, there would be no need for the amount of pantograph-gates (gear) since no passengers would be able to pass between the cars, except during rare evacuations in which case the train would be stopped anyway. I've heard that the initially proposed design for the R-40S was going to have them in 4 or 5-car sets, which may have been why the slant-ends were designed in the first place. That said, the streamlined styles are fading out in favor of the sleek black ends. It also looks like the is moving towards a uniformed style the way they did in the 1970s with the "(NYCT) silver & blue" paint-scheme followed by the M1-based design of the R-40M–68s. I doubt we'll see any slants make a revival in the near future. i mean that silver and blue thing was cool but the r160s are just so boring on the outside...those old style cars to me had something about them...but then again i bet people thought the same thing with the trains of back then so i guess in the year 2050 ill b like " r160's forever " lmao...i guess after time we learn 2 appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 9, 2008 Share #22 Posted November 9, 2008 I was never a fan of the R-40 Slant design. I've only known it in its pre-GOH state with all of its gear at the slant-ends which I've always found ugly. However, with 4 or 5-car units, the slant design could be successful unlike it was R-40 married couples. Since the slant would only be at operating ends of the cars on 5-car units, there would be no need for the amount of pantograph-gates (gear) since no passengers would be able to pass between the cars, except during rare evacuations in which case the train would be stopped anyway. I've heard that the initially proposed design for the R-40S was going to have them in 4 or 5-car sets, which may have been why the slant-ends were designed in the first place. That said, the streamlined styles are fading out in favor of the sleek black ends. It also looks like the is moving towards a uniformed style the way they did in the 1970s with the "(NYCT) silver & blue" paint-scheme followed by the M1-based design of the R-40M–68s. I doubt we'll see any slants make a revival in the near future. The pantograph gates would still be needed on the slanted ends to prevent passengers on the platform from falling between cars under the train while it is in the station. What won't be needed however is the stanchion braces between cars surrounding the storm door way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioguy Posted November 9, 2008 Share #23 Posted November 9, 2008 That said, the streamlined styles are fading out in favor of the sleek black ends. It also looks like the is moving towards a uniformed style the way they did in the 1970s with the "(NYCT) silver & blue" paint-scheme followed by the M1-based design of the R-40M–68s. I doubt we'll see any slants make a revival in the near future. I don't mind the black and/or red color scheme, but it's a tragedy not to have a new slant. Even if there's no appreciable reduction in drag, it's damned cool looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted November 9, 2008 Share #24 Posted November 9, 2008 While subway buffs like ourselves like the slant R40, design wise, the slants are a safety hazard to the public. They were a lawsuit waiting to happen. I don't think the MTA will approve any radical design like that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioguy Posted November 9, 2008 Share #25 Posted November 9, 2008 Well, there are other streamlined cabs out there that are just as sleek. Is the issue here that the slant is totally flat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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