MTR Admiralty Posted November 8, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 8, 2008 The Hong Kong MTR (Mass Transit Railway) recently removed ticket barriers at Kowloon Tong, a key interchange between the standard metro Kwun Tong line and the commuter metro (RER like) East Rail Line. This is done to further integrate the urban lines with the former KCR Lines. The KCR (Kowloon Canton Railway) formally merged with the MTR (Mass Transit Railway) on 2 December 2007, allowing users to move seamlessly through the integrated network. This was not seamless enough for single ticket holders: For about a year, those wielding single tickets have to buy a separate ticket for the urban line (Island Line, Tsuen Wan Line, Kwun Tong Line, Tung Chung Line, Tseung Kwan O Line and the Disneyland Resort Line) from their place of origin to the transfer station and buy another ticket for the ex-KCR lines (East Rail Line, West Rail Line and the Ma On Shan Line). Recently, the MTR successfully marked the completion of the integrated ticket test, allowing limited use riders to enjoy the ease of transferring between the lines. During the testing period, ticket barriers between the two systems were deactivated. Kowloon Tong Station has removed its interchange passageway ticket barriers and Mei Foo Station (interchange station between MTR Tsuen Wan Line and the ex-KCR West Rail line) and Nam Cheong Station (interchange station between MTR Tung Chung and Airport Lines and ex-KCR West Rail line) are in the process of removing their ticket barriers set between the two systems. Furthermore, because the Tung Chung Line and the West Rail Line both share an island platform but divided by a wall, this wall was decently removed, allowing cross platform interchange in both directions at the Nam Cheong Station. The Tsim Sha Tsui East Station on the East Rail Line will not have a free interchange to the nearby Tsim Sha Tsui Station on the Tsuen Wan Line. Both stations are connected by an underground walkway under Mody Rd. Their respective fare barriers would therefore stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted November 9, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 9, 2008 Cool update. Could you post a map & specify old from new and where this action was taken? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted November 9, 2008 Cool update. Could you post a map & specify old from new and where this action was taken? - A This is the new MTR map. Colour coding: Red: MTR Tsuen Wan Line (urban line) Dark Blue: MTR Island Line (urban line) Green: MTR Kwun Tong Line (urban line) Purple: MTR Tseung Kwan O Line (urban line) Orange: MTR Tung Chung Line Emerald: MTR Airport Express Pink: MTR Disneyland Resort Line Magenta: MTR West Rail Line (ex-KCR) Light Blue: MTR East Rail Line (ex-KCR) Brown: MTR Ma On Shan Line (ex-KCR) Pre-merger MTR map in English, no KCR lines Most recent pre-merger MTR map, the faint grey lines are representative of the KCR lines. Nam Cheong Station, West Rail Lin Platform Nam Cheong Station, MTR Tung Chung Line platform. Note that both platforms look almost the same. In fact, they are actually one wide platform, divided between a wall. These fare gates are subject to removal soon, as they are the only physical obstruction to barrier free interchange at the station. The above ground MTR East Rail Line at Kowloon Tong The underground MTR Kwun Tong Line at Kowloon Tong These are the maps of the 3 interchange stations I mentioned: http://www.mtr.com.hk/jplanner/images/maps/mef.pdf http://www.mtr.com.hk/jplanner/images/maps/kot.pdf http://www.mtr.com.hk/jplanner/images/maps/nac.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted November 9, 2008 Share #4 Posted November 9, 2008 Now THAT is news! I heard about this a few months ago on another forum. Glad it's finally happening. Thank you for the images explaining everything!! Maybe photos of the fare control stuff removed as an update! - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted November 9, 2008 Share #5 Posted November 9, 2008 I miss Hong Kong............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share #6 Posted November 10, 2008 Now THAT is news! I heard about this a few months ago on another forum. Glad it's finally happening. Thank you for the images explaining everything!! Maybe photos of the fare control stuff removed as an update! - A Yeah, it surely is. I read it a few weeks ago on the Chinese paper here. But they showed no photos. So I read it in detail on the MTR's Press Releases available on PDF (they're in excellent English, no worries! ) Well, it is impractical to leave the barriers there, it would be a ruckus. Especially if your Octopus Card (the smart card they use there) has a problem while you are transferring from the MTR system to the ex-KCR system. I think Tsim Sha Tsui has this Out Of System Interchange with the ex-KCR Tsim Sha Tsui East station. So, if you have the Octopus Card, you could transfer for free, while if you are using a Single Journey Ticket, you have to get out of the system and buy another one. (Very similar to our Lexington Avenue-63rd Street transfer). I'm not going back till 2010, but I might tell my folks back in Hong Kong to get some shots of the barrier-free mezzanines. Also, the Kowloon West Station on the West Rail Line that is under construction is renamed to Austin Rd. It will open in 2009. It will have an interchange to the Tung Chung and Airport Lines (Kowloon Station). I miss Hong Kong............ I know... next time I'm going back, I'm going to railfan like crazy. Oh if you are going back, here's a tip if you are railfanning: Avoid the "border" stations of Lok Ma Chau and Lo Wu on the East Rail Line, unless you want to leave Hong Kong (hopefully not). If you do not have a Mainland visa or some identification that you live near the areas near the border, they might arrest you. And nothing is like boarding the top level on that good tram running on Hong Kong Island! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 12, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 12, 2008 can't waitto go back this december, only problem is i'll be at a wedding for most of the time, so i may not have time to dedicate to railfaning:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted November 27, 2008 can't waitto go back this december, only problem is i'll be at a wedding for most of the time, so i may not have time to dedicate to railfaning:( Lol, you could always hitch a ride on the tram. Two HK bucks. Best railfanning ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 27, 2008 Share #9 Posted November 27, 2008 Lol, you could always hitch a ride on the tram. Two HK bucks. Best railfanning ever. if only it weren't so crowded lol:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted November 27, 2008 if only it weren't so crowded lol:p That's true, BECAUSE IT IS THE CHEAPEST! Busfanning in Hong Kong is pretty cool too. In 2006, I would immediately get to the upper level and watch the world from above. And every time the bus makes a right turn, I thought we would hit something. The Nathan Rd buses are pretty nice, but crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 27, 2008 Share #11 Posted November 27, 2008 you hear of those 10 new trains that the MTR ordered from Bombardier, right? 8 car Movia sets. to arrive in 2011-2012. can't wait:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted November 28, 2008 you hear of those 10 new trains that the MTR ordered from Bombardier, right?8 car Movia sets. to arrive in 2011-2012. can't wait:D Yeah... they are going to have LCD screens as opposed to its current LED displays. Makes it clearer, especially if they wish to put ads on them. They are modelled after the MTR K-stock. They are going to refurbish the older Light Rail cars and they are ordering them too. I saw renderings a few months ago, they look very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 30, 2008 Share #13 Posted November 30, 2008 i just hope they either overhaul the old MLR trains on the east rail line, or just replace them entirely before 2015. those trains are really old and noisy (although i do like the sound the DC motors make...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share #14 Posted November 30, 2008 i just hope they either overhaul the old MLR trains on the east rail line, or just replace them entirely before 2015. those trains are really old and noisy (although i do like the sound the DC motors make...) Metro Cammell right? They're getting old. They got a refurbishment a while ago, like 7-8 years ago, around the same time the Metro Cammell M-stock on the MTR got refurbished. By 2015, they probably will be replaced, probably by Kinki Sharyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 30, 2008 Share #15 Posted November 30, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 30, 2008 Share #16 Posted November 30, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share #17 Posted November 30, 2008 Usually, Hong Kong is like the british undergrond style now, not any more! ! Dude, I am really fed up with your lame responses. If you can't say anything much, don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 1, 2008 Share #18 Posted December 1, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share #19 Posted December 1, 2008 What, lame? No, I am not lame... And a Bronx Sci student can be fed up easily! Do yo stack-o homework! On topic: How is the HK Metro running? You're lame for putting the british comment. Don't talk bull when you don't know anything about the MTR. And on topic, it is running fine. Everything is working. And I doubt they are raising fares. In fact, they lowered all single fares recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share #20 Posted December 1, 2008 What, lame? No, I am not lame... And a Bronx Sci student can be fed up easily! Do yo stack-o homework! On topic: How is the HK Metro running? You're lame for the irrelevancy on MANY OF YOUR POSTS. I haven't even forgot about you putting the comment about the British and how the MTR isn't like them now. Is that even needed? Don't talk bull when you don't know anything about the MTR. And on topic, it is running fine. Everything is working. And I doubt they are raising fares. In fact, they lowered all single fares recently. And by the way, you should consider sleep time, rather than forum time at 10:00. Your primary school teachers don't test you on subways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share #21 Posted December 1, 2008 you hear of those 10 new trains that the MTR ordered from Bombardier, right?8 car Movia sets. to arrive in 2011-2012. can't wait:D I got it on the press release; they are not from Bombardier. They have been ordered from Changchun Railcar Company. The Chinese vehicle companies are taking a big role in this century, as with other industries and markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 1, 2008 Share #22 Posted December 1, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share #23 Posted December 1, 2008 Wow, the ChangChun, they built few for the Shanghai and Beijing Metro... Nice stuff, I hope those cars are sturdy enough to hold the crowds of rush hour... It is nuts that the Beijing Line 13 totally broke down due to crowding... Hong Kong, one of the international headquarter, hope doesn't happens... MTR cars have amongst the largest capacities. The cars were designed to cope with overcrowding. I'm used to standing up on the MTR. You could find a seat towards the last stop. Or sometimes the Tung Chung Line. Otherwise, just stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 1, 2008 Share #24 Posted December 1, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted December 2, 2008 Share #25 Posted December 2, 2008 They have been ordered from Changchun Railcar Company. which has a section subcontracted to bombardier. http://www.transportation.bombardier.com/en/0_0/0_0_1_7/0_0_1_7_8/pdf/20070911_CBRC_Changchun_Barry_final.pdf it's a little outdated, but proves that CRC does have license to manufacture Movia trainsets to Bombardier specs. They also manufactured the CRH-3 (chinese siemens velaro) the new trainsets are to be designated C6554-07E. kind of wierd, don't you think?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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