trainspot12 Posted November 12, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 12, 2008 Due to marine traffic affecting the South Channel Bridge, there is no service on the and trains in both directions between the Howard Beach/JFK Airport Station and the Mott Avenue-Far Rockaway Station and the Beach 116th Street/Rockaway Park Station. Station being bypassed: Broad Channel, Beach 67th, Beach 60th, Beach 44th, Beach 36th, Beach 25th, Mott Avenue, Beach 90th, Beach 98th, Beach 105th, and Rockaway-Beach 116th Street. As an alternate, customers are advised to take the Q21 bus from the Rockway Boulevard Station then transfer to the Q22 bus making nearby station stops. It seems like this has happened at the same time every night for the past 2 weeks. Is there like a set time for when the bridge is supposed to open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted November 12, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 12, 2008 The boats probably have a set schedule to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted November 12, 2008 Share #3 Posted November 12, 2008 If a train would get stuck there,approximately how long would they have to wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 12, 2008 Share #4 Posted November 12, 2008 Due to marine traffic affecting the South Channel Bridge, there is no service on the and trains in both directions between the Howard Beach/JFK Airport Station and the Mott Avenue-Far Rockaway Station and the Beach 116th Street/Rockaway Park Station. Station being bypassed: Broad Channel, Beach 67th, Beach 60th, Beach 44th, Beach 36th, Beach 25th, Mott Avenue, Beach 90th, Beach 98th, Beach 105th, and Rockaway-Beach 116th Street. As an alternate, customers are advised to take the Q21 bus from the Rockway Boulevard Station then transfer to the Q22 bus making nearby station stops. It seems like this has happened at the same time every night for the past 2 weeks. Is there like a set time for when the bridge is supposed to open? Not only that, but the bridge wouldnt go down for a few minutes, it was stuck! I was going back to my mom's house on an R40 Slant A train, and the conductor said, "Due to earlier marine traffic and the jamaica bay bridge being open and stuck, there is no service to the Rockaways. For alternate service, take the Q21 or Q53 buses. For service to Rockaway Park, transfer to the Q22 bus" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspot12 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted November 13, 2008 I am speaking for the customers and I hope I don't offend anybody working for transit. BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! Tonight was by far the worst night I ever had with Transit. First the bridge was open, then they said that the bridge was very unstable to the point that it might collapse (I know that's not true, but that what the C/R said), so they take all trains out of service at Howard Beach. Here's the best part - They tell us to go to Rockaway Blvd and take the Shuttle bus (which didn't happen until the trains started running again). So, the QM15/16/17 and Q11/41 took over, taking stranded people to the Rockaways. I got on the Q41 (I guess the B/O was finishing his trip because the bus was empty) and took it to my destination (B. 44 St). But this is ridiculous and they want to raise the fare to $3.00, so what they continue on giving us crappy service. But this not fair! If something like this happened in like Queens when the QBL line shuts down, there about 10-20 buses coming to the rescue immediately. FOUR BUSES and almost 2,500 customers. Come on, this is not right! When are they going to realize that there's something wrong with the bridges and maybe they should start to do something to prevent this from happening again. Because it will happen tomorrow, the next day and next day. Once again, I am sorry if this offends people, especially the fact that many of my family and friends are transit employees. But something has to be done with that bridge because one day that bridge is going to get stuck to a point that it will really cause a major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr142 Posted November 13, 2008 Share #6 Posted November 13, 2008 I am speaking for the customers and I hope I don't offend anybody working for transit. BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! Tonight was by far the worst night I ever had with Transit. First the bridge was open, then they said that the bridge was very unstable to the point that it might collapse (I know that's not true, but that what the C/R said), so they take all trains out of service at Howard Beach. Here's the best part - They tell us to go to Rockaway Blvd and take the Shuttle bus (which didn't happen until the trains started running again). So, the QM15/16/17 and Q11/41 took over, taking stranded people to the Rockaways. I got on the Q41 (I guess the B/O was finishing his trip because the bus was empty) and took it to my destination (B. 44 St). But this is ridiculous and they want to raise the fare to $3.00, so what they continue on giving us crappy service. But this not fair! If something like this happened in like Queens when the QBL line shuts down, there about 10-20 buses coming to the rescue immediately. FOUR BUSES and almost 2,500 customers. Come on, this is not right! When are they going to realize that there's something wrong with the bridges and maybe they should start to do something to prevent this from happening again. Because it will happen tomorrow, the next day and next day. Once again, I am sorry if this offends people, especially the fact that many of my family and friends are transit employees. But something has to be done with that bridge because one day that bridge is going to get stuck to a point that it will really cause a major problem. Yep, trainspot is right, the fares are going up, yet we dont get good service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted November 13, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 13, 2008 Slightly off-topic, when I went on 3-hour Cruise on CircleLine, I wonder how does that fit through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted November 13, 2008 Share #8 Posted November 13, 2008 Yep, trainspot is right, the fares are going up, yet we dont get good service. You have to realize that marine traffic has the right of way. If 50 boats decided to pass in a row then the bridge would stay open that whole time or the whole day. That's the agreement boats first in that area. The problem is that the horrible management at the TA doesn't ever want to make a decision because it could cost them there job, so they wait and pass it around. By the time shuttle buses are whatever else is dispatched much time has been wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tynie626 Posted November 13, 2008 Share #9 Posted November 13, 2008 hey everyone!! i was one of the unlucky passengers that got stuck in this mess on tuesday and again on wednesday night. it seems to occur at the same time, around 7pm. the first night we were instructed to get off the train at rockaway blvd, and take either the 21 or 53 bus to meet up with the 22 bus to get to the rockaways. along the way, the bus driver was stopping to let people off, and angry mobs would rush the bus, and stand in front of it to prevent the driver from leaving. there wasn't enough shuttle bus service dispatched to fix the problem adequately. leaving work at around 5:15 i made it home just before 9pm. then last night, we were told the train was out of service at howard beach station. passengers were angry, as this was the 3rd night in a row the train has been taken out of service by the bridge malfunction. one woman with her 4 children refused to get off the train, which caused a huge delay. we were then told to get back on the train and they would take us to broad channel where there were shuttle buses waiting. we get to broad channel, and of course there aren't any shuttle buses. they said to go back to rockaway blvd for shuttle bus service instead. by this point, everyone was angry we had been lied to. people refused to get off the train, the cops were called, but they didn't seem to do anything. we all waited there. finally the problem was fixed around 8:30, and again i made it home at 9pm. this is obviously a big problem! i hope they get this bridge fixed before the weather really gets bad because this is a major inconvenience. i understand marine traffic has the right of way, but it's not fair to straphangers who were inconvenienced day in and day out. they should have at least made some kind of announcement on the train that there were bridge problems again. or they should really look into having some sort of display system on the platforms and trains that would tell of any service advisories. it would have saved me a lot of time. needless to say, i will be taking the E train to jamaica and then the 113 bus home tonight to avoid this problem again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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