amtrak to long island and staten island

[Real Greenpickles987 0]

Would this be possible? it is very good for amtrak.

[trainfan22 2,196]

Both is possible but Amtrak going to LI is more realistic. Amtrak was actually considering adding service to Ronkonkoma.

[Gotham Bus Co. 802]

On 2/26/2022 at 2:52 PM, trainfan22 said:

Both is possible but Amtrak going to LI is more realistic. Amtrak was actually considering adding service to Ronkonkoma.

 

Port Jefferson might make more sense (to serve SUNY Stony Brook).  Amtrak to Staten Island makes no sense.

[Joel Powers 13]

On 4/1/2022 at 10:29 AM, Gotham Bus Co. said:

 

Port Jefferson might make more sense (to serve SUNY Stony Brook).  Amtrak to Staten Island makes no sense.

I second that, although to be frank ,it wouldn't make much sense for Amtrak to do either as Long Island is already being well served (for the most part) by MTA Long Island Railroad. Staten Island has SIRR. 

[Gotham Bus Co. 802]

13 minutes ago, Joel Powers said:

I second that, although to be frank ,it wouldn't make much sense for Amtrak to do either as Long Island is already being well served (for the most part) by MTA Long Island Railroad. Staten Island has SIRR. 

 

Agreed. Maybe one could argue (tenuously) for through ticketing, but not direct service.

[Joel Powers 13]

18 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

 

Agreed. Maybe one could argue (tenuously) for through ticketing, but not direct service.

That's correct.

[bobtehpanda 6,121]

On 4/10/2022 at 10:55 AM, Gotham Bus Co. said:

Agreed. Maybe one could argue (tenuously) for through ticketing, but not direct service.

Eh, there's a lot of value in reducing the amount of seat changes, particularly as it relates to avoiding having to exit a platform, go up, go through the boarding process, and then get onto an Amtrak train.

Also, don't a fair amount of trains from the west and north terminate in Penn Station itself? The terminating procedure takes a long time, so maybe it should be moved to somewhere that isn't the most congested station in the rail network.

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I think Amtrak as part of its Amtrak Connects plan has talked about extending Empire Corridor trains to Ronkonkoma. Stony Brook would make more sense if speeds on PJ were improved, but it takes about an hour less to catch a train from Ronkonkoma than from Stony Brook, and PJ has a lot of curves compared to how straight the route to Ronkonkoma is in comparison.

[Joel Powers 13]

On 4/19/2022 at 8:52 PM, bobtehpanda said:

Eh, there's a lot of value in reducing the amount of seat changes, particularly as it relates to avoiding having to exit a platform, go up, go through the boarding process, and then get onto an Amtrak train.

Also, don't a fair amount of trains from the west and north terminate in Penn Station itself? The terminating procedure takes a long time, so maybe it should be moved to somewhere that isn't the most congested station in the rail network.

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I think Amtrak as part of its Amtrak Connects plan has talked about extending Empire Corridor trains to Ronkonkoma. Stony Brook would make more sense if speeds on PJ were improved, but it takes about an hour less to catch a train from Ronkonkoma than from Stony Brook, and PJ has a lot of curves compared to how straight the route to Ronkonkoma is in comparison.

The question is, will the MTA allow Amtrak to use their tracks for their own service expansions? 

[bobtehpanda 6,121]

On 4/20/2022 at 7:34 PM, Joel Powers said:

The question is, will the MTA allow Amtrak to use their tracks for their own service expansions? 

I mean, Metro-North does.
Then again, LIRR is run differently than Metro-North, although usually for the worse.

[Dellvana 0]

There could be a way with linking it to Staten Island, but I think they would be using different rails because it's not primarily connected to the other MTA rails from the outer boroughs.

[xD4nn 36]

On 4/19/2023 at 8:44 AM, Dellvana said:

There could be a way with linking it to Staten Island, but I think they would be using different rails because it's not primarily connected to the other MTA rails from the outer boroughs.

That doesn't make any sense...

[IAlam 294]

On 4/19/2023 at 8:44 AM, Dellvana said:

There could be a way with linking it to Staten Island, but I think they would be using different rails because it's not primarily connected to the other MTA rails from the outer boroughs.

The only rail line that could be used is the existing NSR row on Staten Island and even then there's no direct connection to the NEC. A new curve would have to be built in order for service to Staten Island to be feasible. But even then what benefit would that really provide? Staten Island to NYP wouldn't be faster by this rail line and going to WAS doesn't seem like it'd be more an appealing option than just getting on at NYP. That doesn't even get into the costly renovations and eminent domain needed to pull this off, I don't think it'd be worth the time, money, or effort required to build it. That time, money, and effort would be better spent on the Gateway Project.