Lefferts Blvd X Posted November 20, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 20, 2008 I'm just curious to see what you think will happen if the and lines are indeed eliminated, what would happen to the R160s that serve those lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Local Posted November 20, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 20, 2008 I'm just curious to see what you think will happen if the and lines are indeed eliminated, what would happen to the R160s that serve those lines... The isn't even a real line anyway, it's just a less confusing way to designate the skip-stop service. Add'l local service will be added so they'll need cars for that. And since the will be extended to Astoria any R160's will probably be used there because more trains will have to run there also since the (Q)'s trip will now be longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted November 20, 2008 Share #3 Posted November 20, 2008 Well, the is no use, and was always no usewe will see no more express on the Jamaica Line. For the it was a way to relieve the and . Though the Broadway Line might be more crowded, I think they can handle it. The might have to run local in Brooklyn and the might have to run local in Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 20, 2008 Share #4 Posted November 20, 2008 Please be easy with the CAPS Daddy KingPin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duelingdragons Posted November 20, 2008 Share #5 Posted November 20, 2008 I think the will be local in Manhattan, with the being express... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefrombk Posted November 21, 2008 Share #6 Posted November 21, 2008 I think the will be local in Manhattan, with the being express... which wouldnt be that much of a difference really. assuming the would still come over the bridge, it'd only be making 4 more stops than it usually does during daytime service in manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Beach Posted November 21, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 21, 2008 The isn't even a real line anyway, it's just a less confusing way to designate the skip-stop service. Add'l local service will be added so they'll need cars for that. And since the will be extended to Astoria any R160's will probably be used there because more trains will have to run there also since the (Q)'s trip will now be longer Where did you find out the will be extended to astoria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 21, 2008 Share #8 Posted November 21, 2008 Where did you find out the will be extended to astoria? http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6400 There you go, but it said nothing about the or trains making local stops via Broadway AM/PM rush hours nor mid-days nor the making local stops late nights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted November 21, 2008 Share #9 Posted November 21, 2008 So if the is routed via bridge, Late nights only? What will be through the tube, the ? Also, if the is extended to Astoria, Im sure, late nights & weekends it will continue to terminate at Midtown-57 St/7 Av. It looks like the will remain express & the will probably have to go local. Here we go again, reviving the 90s with Local service, but now the is visible...Its also a shame to see the leave Southern Brooklyn. The has been part of the Southern BMT Tribe forever. I hope one day it will make its return to Bay Parkway or another Southern BMT Route, that Can utilize it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 21, 2008 Share #10 Posted November 21, 2008 So if the is routed via bridge, Late nights only? What will be through the tube, the ? Also, if the is extended to Astoria, Im sure, late nights & weekends it will continue to terminate at Midtown-57 St/7 Av. It looks like the will remain express & the will probably have to go local. Here we go again, reviving the 90s with Local service, but now the is visible...Its also a shame to see the leave Southern Brooklyn. The has been part of the Southern BMT Tribe forever. I hope one day it will make its return to Bay Parkway or another Southern BMT Route, that Can utilize it.. I don't see the point of making the local b/c the will get cut.....if the Lexington Avenue Line can handle two expresses and one local so can the Broadway Line....if the is crowded then its crowded.....the is crowded 24/7 I don't see adding the 8 or 12 train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 21, 2008 Share #11 Posted November 21, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 21, 2008 Share #12 Posted November 21, 2008 Well, the R46's will go to the , and when the gets the R160's and there will be additional service on the and possibly if doomsday plan of cutting service doesn't go through... will go to Astoria weekdays 5:02 am to 12:00 am only... No late night/weekends/holiday service to Astoria... And I feel the Broadway Line will follow the Lex and 7th Ave. IRT to make it fair... umm...WHERE are you getting this 'information' from?? And to quote the great 80's show sledge hammer I hope it is not from "more reliable sources" such as "rumor and small children"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Local Posted November 21, 2008 Share #13 Posted November 21, 2008 So if the is routed via bridge, Late nights only? What will be through the tube, the ? Also, if the is extended to Astoria, Im sure, late nights & weekends it will continue to terminate at Midtown-57 St/7 Av. It looks like the will remain express & the will probably have to go local. Here we go again, reviving the 90s with Local service, but now the is visible...Its also a shame to see the leave Southern Brooklyn. The has been part of the Southern BMT Tribe forever. I hope one day it will make its return to Bay Parkway or another Southern BMT Route, that Can utilize it.. I hear ya, the has always been running somehwere through south Brooklyn, whether it was Brighton, Sea Beach or West End. And it's always been going via Montague St. to get to either of it's different destinations over the decades. I don't travel that end of the but I agree it's a shame for anyone who relies on it on that end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted November 21, 2008 Share #14 Posted November 21, 2008 I hear ya, the has always been running somehwere through south Brooklyn, whether it was Brighton, Sea Beach or West End. And it's always been going via Montague St. to get to either of it's different destinations over the decades. I don't travel that end of the but I agree it's a shame for anyone who relies on it on that end Keep your Bay Parkway Signature Strong my friend!:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted November 21, 2008 Share #15 Posted November 21, 2008 Likely some will sit idle. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 24, 2008 Share #16 Posted November 24, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 24, 2008 Share #17 Posted November 24, 2008 I collected it from forums and expectations... Just a friendly word of advice...Forums are only as reliable as the person posting them. And "expectations" are the source of much of the misinformation that's out there...those are more like opinions than facts...stick to what is heard from employees or others in the know and you will be golden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 24, 2008 Share #18 Posted November 24, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted November 24, 2008 Share #19 Posted November 24, 2008 Right now we don't know how often service will be going to Astoria but 57/7 will still be a terminal. The will be Local in Mahattan going over the Manhattan Bridge at all times. Those that want service on the Line between Canal St and Pacific Street will have to use the during overnight hours if the plan takes effect. The reason is by going over the Bridge the running time is cut and that will cut a job or two. As for the R46's they will still be running on the Lines. The as of now will replace R32's with R160's. There is talk now the R160 may go to the first instead of the Line. The Supt is behind that push but will see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted November 24, 2008 Share #20 Posted November 24, 2008 I don't see the point of making the local b/c the will get cut.....if the Lexington Avenue Line can handle two expresses and one local so can the Broadway Line....if the is crowded then its crowded.....the is crowded 24/7 I don't see adding the 8 or 12 train The Lexington Avenue line is completely different than the Broadway line though. Both are incomparable because frequencies are very much different, and the areas they serve are different, along with demands. It makes sense to have the go local if the does end up being cut because the would be insufficient for Broadway local service. It doesn't hurt to add 3-4 extra stops to the in Manhattan at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 24, 2008 Share #21 Posted November 24, 2008 The Lexington Avenue line is completely different than the Broadway line though. Both are incomparable because frequencies are very much different, and the areas they serve are different, along with demands. It makes sense to have the go local if the does end up being cut because the would be insufficient for Broadway local service. It doesn't hurt to add 3-4 extra stops to the in Manhattan at all times. It do hurt b/c no one wants to sit on a train making all local stops when they to get home faster on the express, but its w/e. If the runs local I won't be on that train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted November 24, 2008 Share #22 Posted November 24, 2008 It do hurt b/c no one wants to sit on a train making all local stops when they to get home faster on the express, but its w/e. If the runs local I won't be on that train! It only adds three to four minutes to the trip tops. If it was more than 7-10 minutes being added to the trip, then it would hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted November 24, 2008 Share #23 Posted November 24, 2008 Well, the R46's will go to the , and when the gets the R160's and there will be additional service on the and possibly if doomsday plan of cutting service doesn't go through... will go to Astoria weekdays 5:02 am to 12:00 am only... No late night/weekends/holiday service to Astoria... And I feel the Broadway Line will follow the Lex and 7th Ave. IRT to make it fair... It is TOO distant (even though we are 2-3 months from the so-called "expected debut" of the R160s on the F) for us to assume/predict what lines will run which cars. We have to wait until the F gets the cars and see what will happen afterward. WHAT??? THE BROADWAY LINE WILL FOLLOW THE LEX AND 7TH AVE IRT TO MAKE IT FAIR??? What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted November 24, 2008 Share #24 Posted November 24, 2008 It only adds three to four minutes to the trip tops. If it was more than 7-10 minutes being added to the trip, then it would hurt. Yes. The Broadway Local is not that slow above Canal St. The real benefit of the express is the Bridge. He may not be on that train, but many will have no choice since they can't get home any faster if they live along the line. The only express being the probably won't save any time since you would have to transfer to the local at 14th St anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 25, 2008 Share #25 Posted November 25, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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