R142 for the 7

[KeystoneRegional]

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[mark1447]

Ah no the Bombadier's R-142 don't need to be the ...it won't sound right

 

why lol

 

Its better, and cozy and why does the MTA want Bombadier/ Kawasaki to make the R188 just like the R142?

[Forest Glen]

It would be nice to finally put an end to the local and express confusion. However, I would miss the railfan window.

[NYtransit]

the bombardier R142 failed on the because the leg of the truck of the R142 would not reach the 3rd rail.the R142A/S however,did succeed. but im sure they might fix up some R142 bombardier's.still its a good idea to add some R142/A's and R188's mix.finally the line could reach up to 2 cars again !

[metsfan]

I'll believe it when i see it.

 

- A

[7LineFan]

Don't care about Express or Local... It is not nerve-wracking...

 

You don't care. I do care. It matters to me. When I want to get somewhere as quickly as possible I want the express, and if I can't tell which is which there's a problem.

[mark1447]

You don't care. I do care. It matters to me. When I want to get somewhere as quickly as possible I want the express, and if I can't tell which is which there's a problem.

 

you also said, no more express service in bronx, with limited service if im correct

[via White Plains Road]

why lol

 

Its better, and cozy and why does the MTA want Bombadier/ Kawasaki to make the R188 just like the R142?

 

They not going to look like the R-142's...if they were then it won't be no point of making the R-188's!

[7LineFan]

you also said, no more express service in bronx, with limited service if im correct

 

1. Hypothetical situation for worst case scenario.

2. Do you really think I want to get rid of any service or reduce besides the ?

3. I only said that for the skipping 138 and the . The remained in my plan, and if needed I guess the can stay, but it will go to Dyre instead of Nereid. There was nothing about limited service; that was Kexpress's plan.

4. What does that have to do with me telling apart the express from the local? I'll wait if there's limited service.

[Kexpress]

1. There was nothing about limited service; that was Kexpress's plan.

That was my idea for the (MTA)'s buget cut backs plan only.

[Trainmaster5]

You don't care. I do care. It matters to me. When I want to get somewhere as quickly as possible I want the express, and if I can't tell which is which there's a problem.

 

Just imagine riding the older R1-9 cars with no Public address systems. You had to READ the signs or marker lights to tell routes or local express runs. Don't they teach reading in schools anymore? It used to be fundamental. There are still a great many New Yorkers who have trouble reading but they manage to get from point A to point B with no problems. Including the ,,,,,, and(7),.

[BroadwayBuffer]

They not going to look like the R-142's...if they were then it won't be no point of making the R-188's!

 

The point of the designation "R-188" like other R-types has to do with the contract and not the design element. I guess we don't know what they will look like, but I couldn't imagine them being drastically different since they're going to be added on to existing sets of R-142As, unless they're going to have one odd-ball car in each train.

[7LineFan]

Just imagine riding the older R1-9 cars with no Public address systems. You had to READ the signs or marker lights to tell routes or local express runs. Don't they teach reading in schools anymore? It used to be fundamental. There are still a great many New Yorkers who have trouble reading but they manage to get from point A to point B with no problems. Including the ,,,,,, and(7),.

 

:eek: Insulting my reading ability, eh? Pretty low, especially since I've already made myself clear on this point. :mad:

 

To reiterate:

 

All I'm saying is, it would virtually eliminate the chance of an express train showing up at a station with a local sign (WHICH HAS HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TELL ME HOW READING CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT!) or vice versa if we had the R188s. Basically I don't trust the roll signs on the R62As completely, and the PA system can't be heard outside the car, so I can't be sure unless I stick my head inside the car, which is problematic when there are 10 people behind you either doing the same thing or pushing past you to get on the train.

 

On lines like the and this is not a problem because there is only one bullet for the route. But people get lazy changing roll signs.

[mark1447]

1. Hypothetical situation for worst case scenario.

2. Do you really think I want to get rid of any service or reduce besides the ?

3. I only said that for the skipping 138 and the . The remained in my plan, and if needed I guess the can stay, but it will go to Dyre instead of Nereid. There was nothing about limited service; that was Kexpress's plan.

4. What does that have to do with me telling apart the express from the local? I'll wait if there's limited service.

 

SO Im a train rider, and I live Near the and why cant we have an express, while u guys in queens get everything, now thats not being fair completely

[via White Plains Road]

SO Im a train rider, and I live Near the and why cant we have an express, while u guys in queens get everything, now thats not being fair completely

 

Hmmmm your wrong.....we don't get anything.....we're going to lose the next Summer and the as well. You get to keep your express to Nereid Avenue-238th Street and Eastchester-Dyre Avenue....so nice try

[7LineFan]

SO Im a train rider, and I live Near the and why cant we have an express, while u guys in queens get everything, now thats not being fair completely

 

You didn't read my post completely. I said that 1. its a hypothetical situation and 2. the can stay. So you can keep your precious (which isn't even designated with a diamond, since it goes express in one direction in the Bronx all the time instead of express AND local in one direction) for all I care.

 

And how do we get everything? If anything, Manhattan gets everything.

 

EDIT: CurAke's right. We're losing two lines. You don't lose anything.

[MTR Admiralty]

You didn't read my post completely. I said that 1. its a hypothetical situation and 2. the can stay. So you can keep your precious for all I care.

 

And how do we get everything? If anything, Manhattan gets everything.

 

And Staten Island gets little to nothing.

[Trainmaster5]

:eek: Insulting my reading ability, eh? Pretty low, especially since I've already made myself clear on this point. :mad:

 

To reiterate:

 

All I'm saying is, it would virtually eliminate the chance of an express train showing up at a station with a local sign (WHICH HAS HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TELL ME HOW READING CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT!) or vice versa if we had the R188s. Basically I don't trust the roll signs on the R62As completely, and the PA system can't be heard outside the car, so I can't be sure unless I stick my head inside the car, which is problematic when there are 10 people behind you either doing the same thing or pushing past you to get on the train.

 

On lines like the and this is not a problem because there is only one bullet for the route. But people get lazy changing roll signs.

 

I've made local stops operating the or express in the Bronx with white, green, redbird, 62A's, and NTT and have never had a problem with a passenger like yours. Rule of thumb is you board whatever train stops at your stop and continue toward your destination, express or local. For instance there have been many times when the ,, local beats my from Brooklyn Bridge to Grand Central or even to 125th St. I'm sure this happens on the(7), line too. The only difference between local and expresses on the IRT is that the express makes fewer stops. It is not guaranteed to get you there much faster. Perhaps someone who works the on a regular basis could elaborate. In actual road service the rail control center or local dispatcher dictates whether you make local stops or not so use the signs as a general guideline. With the short dwell time on the , there probably isn't enough time to change all of the roll signs at the terminal. It's a pain to re-program the NTT enroute too. So even if we're told to make local stops we generally don't re-program the display unless we have the time. Manual announcements are made instead and the train keeps on moving.

[R421969]

He does have a point I ride the Nassau st line everyday and without the Z its gonna b all so slow...but then again arent the like mad packed? Even though ill lose the Z it will always be good 2 get a seat.

[trainfan22]

They not going to look like the R-142's...if they were then it won't be no point of making the R-188's!

 

Most likely it will, most of the order is basically 142 or 142A B cars so it wound'nt make no sense to make it look diffent.

[mark1447]

You didn't read my post completely. I said that 1. its a hypothetical situation and 2. the can stay. So you can keep your precious (which isn't even designated with a diamond, since it goes express in one direction in the Bronx all the time instead of express AND local in one direction) for all I care.

 

And how do we get everything? If anything, Manhattan gets everything.

 

EDIT: CurAke's right. We're losing two lines. You don't lose anything.

 

Man do u need at attitude? Have you ever been to the bronx, before making statements that rapid, geez take a chill pill man. Most likly Mannatan, Queens and Brooklyn get everything, especially Queens and Brooklyn as the NYCTA focuses more.

 

Bronx and SI hardly get any attention, you can see how many stations in these borough need rehab and the doesnt do bull sh*t.

 

Like almost all of the , Dyre branch isnt in gd shape. The Concourse and ( doesnt get anything well, (MTA made a prommise to rehab these lines and ether they didn't fix it up on time or they dropped the idea...

 

We also lost the , even tho thats 2005

 

@Cirtus: I dont really care about the White Plains Rd to 238th, seems more of a waste of time going one way like , the Could cut that line off , but I dunno how would this be a problem to the using the 239th Street yd

[mark1447]

He does have a point I ride the Nassau st line everyday and without the Z its gonna b all so slow...but then again arent the like mad packed? Even though ill lose the Z it will always be good 2 get a seat.

 

Thats why we need that SAS to be accomplished, if the keeps delaying it this would mean we will never see these line, at least to 96th Street should cover.

 

And wouldnt extending the to Astoria would cost money too?

[R421969]

yeah i guess I mean that would be a sure thing...

 

wasnt the original goal of the SAS to ease crowding on the lexington avenue line?

[Fresh Pond]

yeah i guess I mean that would be a sure thing...

 

wasnt the original goal of the SAS to ease crowding on the lexington avenue line?

 

 

that's the plan, but i doubt it will help that much

 

and anyway, they should keep the cuz the gets hella crowded during rush hours

[R421969]

yeah man tell em...especially at like the 430 rush hours...but im lucky I get on at 85th which is not that crowded and ill have a seat 75% of the time

and going home from work i get on at fulton st so i always have a seat there