AA 8th Avenue Posted December 16, 2008 Share #1 Posted December 16, 2008 Why are train car length signs at all 8th avenue staions being blackened out and all trains have to stop at the S length designation??? Trains have always stopped at their designated car length; 10-car, 8-car, 6-car,, & 4-car. Cant the R-40(M) and R-42 work like the R-32/38 where the motorman cabs can also function as conductor cabs? I live on 35th street off 8th avenue and could tell when a was there because I could barely see the car end now I cant. At certain stations people have to run two car lengths in order to catch a train. This holds up the train cause people are not used to this change. Just put it back the way way it was 10, 8, 6, 4! I know where to take a train but 95% dont. Make it easy so folks don't hold up my trains. (NYCT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted December 16, 2008 Share #2 Posted December 16, 2008 The R40/42 have no C/R controls in the cabs. The new stops for the has something to do with having the C/R board at the same stop for all trains I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted December 16, 2008 Share #3 Posted December 16, 2008 In the all the stations on the line the C/R has to be aligned with the board, but this is not possible on R42s because they don't have the controls in each cab. So now the C/R is not in the middle of the train, but in the 6th car if I'm not mistaken, which makes the train go to the S marker unlike stopping at the 8 marker, so now all trains stop at S including R38s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted December 17, 2008 Share #4 Posted December 17, 2008 Yup what Matted posted is correct...on the R40/R42 equipment only the operator's cabs (A ends) have operating controls and the conductor's cabs (the blind "B" ends) have door controls. Because the C is an 8 car train, the conductor can't be in the middle (4 cars in front 4 cars in back), so he has to work out of either the third or the fifth car...the signs are being changed so the train will line him up with the conductor's board so he'll know it's safe to open the doors, otherwise will have to put new boards up just so these cars can run on that line for only a little while longer. Doing it this way saves $$... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted December 17, 2008 Share #5 Posted December 17, 2008 On every weekend if 4-car is running on Queens Blvd, I always announce "If you need , you must wait on 6th Marking Place!." Queens Blvd Local passengers ended up running for 4-car if comes first (If they going local stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 18, 2008 Share #6 Posted December 18, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbadexpress Posted December 18, 2008 Share #7 Posted December 18, 2008 I don't like how the aligned the and trains, confusing and I have to run in order to catch one. exactly. I wonder how often gives headache to unfamiliar riders who stand at the end of the platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 18, 2008 Share #8 Posted December 18, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA 8th Avenue Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted January 8, 2009 Thank goodnes my trains are back to normal! They stop where they always have. now keep 'em that way unless u r going to make it a 10-car set.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 8, 2009 Share #10 Posted January 8, 2009 Thank goodnes my trains are back to normal! They stop where they always have. now keep 'em that way unless u r going to make it a 10-car set.. Sounds great, they will stick to 480 feet long trains until say all the SMEEs are gone. Once they are gone by like next year, perhaps they will extend the C train to 600 feet long (10 60 footers or 8 75 footers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted January 9, 2009 Share #11 Posted January 9, 2009 Some R46's and R160 maybe? Could be? I'm not going say when I think because then everybody will be like, "oh Trizz is spreading rumors!" In my opinion the is baby compared to the and . Service patter at 34th is always and you got at Chambers, . The is mainly empty even at rush hours compared to the much more packed train. Reason for it having 8 Car isn't something they started doing recently either. On Nycsubway.org, I see R10 in the late 80's with 7 or 8 cars on the , R30's with 6 cars and of course even 6 car R46 set up like the . A-B-A-A-B-A. I have yet to seen even a R1-9 set up with 600 Feet of Train. The never was 600 Feet and it pisses me off. It pissed me off when I use to ride daily to school, it STILL pisses me off. The at least need to be extended to 600 feet. If i saw a 600 foot , it would shock me more then seeing a R160 on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 9, 2009 Share #12 Posted January 9, 2009 Some R46's and R160 maybe? Could be? I'm not going say when I think because then everybody will be like, "oh Trizz is spreading rumors!" In my opinion the is baby compared to the and . Service patter at 34th is always and you got at Chambers, . The is mainly empty even at rush hours compared to the much more packed train. Reason for it having 8 Car isn't something they started doing recently either. On Nycsubway.org, I see R10 in the late 80's with 7 or 8 cars on the , R30's with 6 cars and of course even 6 car R46 set up like the . A-B-A-A-B-A. I have yet to seen even a R1-9 set up with 600 Feet of Train. The never was 600 Feet and it pisses me off. It pissed me off when I use to ride daily to school, it STILL pisses me off. The at least need to be extended to 600 feet. If i saw a 600 foot , it would shock me more then seeing a R160 on it. If Pitkin ever gets R160s, they will use either R160A-2 or R160B. ABBBA ABBBA, I don't think four car sets will be going to Pitkin for service on the C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted January 9, 2009 Share #13 Posted January 9, 2009 trains stop in the middle as R32's come back, I liked the R40 , R40M and R42 cars that appeared on the , but the drawback, was the different position that the had to take, because the C/R's controls were not on the cabs. I thought the was a 10 car train at that point. At this rate, the will never be 600 feet long and I do understand the frustration that comes up with it, but we can't do much about it. If people would have complained about the train lengths it a lot, they would have done that years ago. I think that if the would be 600 feet long, then that would be an R160 train set, but that's just my guess. I have to agree, that the the at major stations only appears one out of every three trains, due to having two south terminals (three during rush hours) So my service pattern is and so on. I have noticed a trend that the appears more often then the (pattern is )at 8th Avenue which may explain why ( trains appears more often than the (Pattern ). Again this is my observations if you have something different from what I've said, feel free to respond to this post. I'd like to read your statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted January 10, 2009 Share #14 Posted January 10, 2009 trains stop in the middle as R32's come back, I liked the R40 , R40M and R42 cars that appeared on the , but the drawback, was the different position that the had to take, because the C/R's controls were not on the cabs. I thought the was a 10 car train at that point. At this rate, the will never be 600 feet long and I do understand the frustration that comes up with it, but we can't do much about it. If people would have complained about the train lengths it a lot, they would have done that years ago. I think that if the would be 600 feet long, then that would be an R160 train set, but that's just my guess. I have to agree, that the the at major stations only appears one out of every three trains, due to having two south terminals (three during rush hours) So my service pattern is (A) (A) and so on. I have noticed a trend that the appears more often then the (pattern is (E) (E) )at 8th Avenue which may explain why ( trains appears more often than the (Pattern (B) ). Again this is my observations if you have something different from what I've said, feel free to respond to this post. I'd like to read your statements. The does run more frequently than the ...I have timetables somewhere but dont want to get them right now...but yes the runs more frequently than the which is why you see what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted January 10, 2009 Share #15 Posted January 10, 2009 The is a supplementary line like the , , and so thats why it does not run as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted January 10, 2009 Share #16 Posted January 10, 2009 Man, if people didn't complain about having to run more and weren't illiterate as to actually read the signs posted up in the stations about the different stopping positions, the wouldn't have to waste money retransferring cars. Not to mention that at many stations during the switch the station superintendent made announcements about the running fewer cars, no one listened and stayed at the end of the platform, then when their train came they started moaning about how the never makes any announcements. People these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 11, 2009 Share #17 Posted January 11, 2009 Man, if people didn't complain about having to run more and weren't illiterate as to actually read the signs posted up in the stations about the different stopping positions, the wouldn't have to waste money retransferring cars. Not to mention that at many stations during the switch the station superintendent made announcements about the running fewer cars, no one listened and stayed at the end of the platform, then when their train came they started moaning about how the never makes any announcements. People these days. Well IMO, the MTA should have originally send the R40M/R42s to Jamaica Yd and send the Phase 1s from Jamaica to Pitkin during December, that way the C would continue to run trains that would stop at their original positions and still continue the retirement of the R38s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted January 13, 2009 Share #18 Posted January 13, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 13, 2009 Share #19 Posted January 13, 2009 Yup, the is just an Local basically, not much going on it unless if it is in the City... Thanks Sherlock. I would have never guessed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted January 13, 2009 Share #20 Posted January 13, 2009 Yup, the is just an Local basically, not much going on it unless if it is in the City...You sure about that? That gets packed like crazy in Brooklyn too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 13, 2009 Share #21 Posted January 13, 2009 I hope that is soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted January 13, 2009 Share #22 Posted January 13, 2009 Yup, the is just an Local basically, not much going on it unless if it is in the City... You sure about that? That gets packed like crazy in Brooklyn too. The is packed, especially near Jay Street and Broadway Junction. Local stations along IND Fulton are used by a lot of riders every rush hour, so the isn't crowded only in Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted January 13, 2009 Share #23 Posted January 13, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted January 13, 2009 Share #24 Posted January 13, 2009 Huh? I am not Sherlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted January 14, 2009 Share #25 Posted January 14, 2009 LOLZ!!!!!!!! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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