ducman998r Posted December 28, 2008 Share #101 Posted December 28, 2008 can anyone confirm if tomo the 32/38 will be on the I dont think until after new years... im not workign until Tues so ill know more then. I doubt youll see any R38s... theyre reefing them like crazy... C is suppised to be a full R32 fleet now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 28, 2008 Share #102 Posted December 28, 2008 im guessing by next weekend, damn thats when skool starts what about late night this week? You mean during weekdays, I doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted December 28, 2008 Share #103 Posted December 28, 2008 i heard that the end of this week,all R32 on the line will get moved to the and the R42 R40M (maybe slants) will go to the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 28, 2008 Share #104 Posted December 28, 2008 i heard that the end of this week,all R32 on the line will get moved to the and the R42 R40M (maybe slants) will go to the how long before all R160s aor half of the 160s fill the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted December 28, 2008 Share #105 Posted December 28, 2008 how long before all R160s aor half of the 160s fill the ? well god now when Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustclee Posted December 28, 2008 Share #106 Posted December 28, 2008 how long before all R160s aor half of the 160s fill the ? I'm guessing it'll be fast if they come like they came to the . Less than a month? (don't take my word for it, just guessing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 29, 2008 Share #107 Posted December 29, 2008 Well... sort of but not really. All a rider wants from a train is cleanliness, comfort (proper temperature, not too much noise, smooth ride etc.), and announcements he/she can hear. Basically, they wouldn't care if they got a R46, R68/A, R142/a, R62/a, r143, or R160A/B because they meet all of those demands. But when a rider sees and car class from R32-R42 (which he/she probably can't distinct) they think somewhere along the lines "ugh, i hate these old screechy, dirty and rusty trains". They would rather have classes R62-R160. so in this case R32=R38=r40=r40m=r42. I know this because I go to highschool and I asked one of my friends (who has no interest in trains) and I asked her what she thinks of the cars running on the (which at the time were R38's), and she said she didn't like them because they were dirty, dark, rusty and screechy. Then I asked her what she thinks of the cars that run on the ((which at the time were [and still are] R68/A), and she didn't hate them nor have much opinions but thought they were satisfactory. I asked a lot of people and they has similar answers were similar. As long as a car meets the non-enthusiast's wants, they are fine with them. R62's (The ones on the line) are not as smooth and quiet as the 75 footers and R142A and 143/160. Ride one between chambers and park place and you'll see what I mean. Not to mention there very bucky and bumby. However me personally I perfer the R62 over the R142's. The 62's are fun to ride in the underwater tube between bowling green and borough hall and on the 7 ave express runs. But when the T/O comes into a station fast on a 62 and takes a hard brake its very bumby and unsmooth. The R62A's are much better in the comfort dept IMO, rode the 62A train a few weeks ago it was much smoother and not as loud as the kawasaki 62's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 29, 2008 Share #108 Posted December 29, 2008 I'm guessing it'll be fast if they come like they came to the . Less than a month? (don't take my word for it, just guessing) It depends on the speed of the R160 delivery. Right now they are up to 9277... possibly more. By end of January we may get up to 93XX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 29, 2008 Share #109 Posted December 29, 2008 i cant wait for the R160s to end its transfers, i wanna see some R179s i guess the Queens Blvd line is the last to get the 160s and also i know the R44s are gonna be replaced by 179s and the 188 replaces 62as on the and maybe retire the 62s , i wonder wat will happen to r46s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 29, 2008 Share #110 Posted December 29, 2008 i cant wait for the R160s to end its transfers, i wanna see some R179s i guess the Queens Blvd line is the last to get the 160s and also i know the R44s are gonna be replaced by 179s and the 188 replaces 62as on the and maybe retire the 62s , i wonder wat will happen to r46s Let us not anticipate for R179s and R188s anytime soon. I will only start to anticipate for them when their order is placed and it is definite that they are being built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnyBrooklyn Posted December 29, 2008 Share #111 Posted December 29, 2008 Is there really that much room at 207 yard that they can scrap many cars at once? According to the datsheet there are 180 out of 200 R38's still in service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 29, 2008 Share #112 Posted December 29, 2008 Is there really that much room at 207 yard that they can scrap many cars at once? According to the datsheet there are 180 out of 200 R38's still in service. Correction: Only 160 R38s left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R421969 Posted December 29, 2008 Share #113 Posted December 29, 2008 I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustclee Posted December 29, 2008 Share #114 Posted December 29, 2008 Where exactly are the R40 slants now? I wanna ride them some time this week, before they're totally gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted December 29, 2008 Share #115 Posted December 29, 2008 You can find them on the , , or . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted December 29, 2008 Share #116 Posted December 29, 2008 Any photos of the R38s being scrapped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 29, 2008 Share #117 Posted December 29, 2008 Any photos of the R38s being scrapped? You can look on NYCSubway.org, they have a plethora of pictures of cars being scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted December 30, 2008 Share #118 Posted December 30, 2008 Ok I just found out that the swap they planned to do has been Posponed until Futher Notice. So R32's in QNS will stay there and R 40M / SLaints, R42 will REMAIN In Service on the Lines. When the information changes I do pass it along as it comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 30, 2008 Share #119 Posted December 30, 2008 Ok I just found out that the swap they planned to do has been Posponed until Futher Notice. So R32's in QNS will stay there and R 40M / SLaints, R42 will REMAIN In Service on the Lines. When the information changes I do pass it along as it comes. Thanks for the news! Why are they cancelling the swap, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted December 30, 2008 Share #120 Posted December 30, 2008 Ok I just found out that the swap they planned to do has been Posponed until Futher Notice. So R32's in QNS will stay there and R 40M / SLaints, R42 will REMAIN In Service on the Lines. When the information changes I do pass it along as it comes.Sweet. Hope it stays that way. I need to keep riding that slant. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted December 30, 2008 Share #121 Posted December 30, 2008 Thanks for the news!Why are they cancelling the swap, anyway? No offical reason given but I think someone woke up a realised they going to have to spend money do undo what they did. They did a sloppy job when they did the current arrangement they used black spray paint on the 8 Car markers instead of just removing them so they would have to get New 8 Car markers for the 8 Ave Line and replace S markers with 10 car markers. The 6 AV line they already put back some 8 car markers and 10 car markers so the rerouted T/O better be on point and stop at the 10 car marker because if they do stop at the 8 car the C/R will have No board. The reason why they wanted the R 32's back because of increased Customer Injuried with crowds running for the train like 42,w4,Bway Juction and just about every train is running 5 Minutes late during the wkdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 30, 2008 Share #122 Posted December 30, 2008 No offical reason given but I think someone woke up a realised they going to have to spend money do undo what they did. They did a sloppy job when they did the current arrangement they used black spray paint on the 8 Car markers instead of just removing them so they would have to get New 8 Car markers for the 8 Ave Line and replace S markers with 10 car markers. The 6 AV line they already put back some 8 car markers and 10 car markers so the rerouted T/O better be on point and stop at the 10 car marker because if they do stop at the 8 car the C/R will have No board. The reason why they wanted the R 32's back because of increased Customer Injuried with crowds running for the train like 42,w4,Bway Juction and just about every train is running 5 Minutes late during the wkdays. Then the issue is, how will the R32s get to 207th Yard without being transferred to the A/C? Transferring them straight to the yard during late nights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted December 30, 2008 Share #123 Posted December 30, 2008 No offical reason given but I think someone woke up a realised they going to have to spend money do undo what they did. They did a sloppy job when they did the current arrangement they used black spray paint on the 8 Car markers instead of just removing them so they would have to get New 8 Car markers for the 8 Ave Line and replace S markers with 10 car markers. The 6 AV line they already put back some 8 car markers and 10 car markers so the rerouted T/O better be on point and stop at the 10 car marker because if they do stop at the 8 car the C/R will have No board. The reason why they wanted the R 32's back because of increased Customer Injuried with crowds running for the train like 42,w4,Bway Juction and just about every train is running 5 Minutes late during the wkdays. i knew it was going to be useless and a waste of time and money. E riders have said a thousand times they hate the R42s, but C riders prefer R40/40M/42s over R38s because the R38s are dark, dirty, and deteriorated. E riders want the R32s and their strong heating to say until their retirement in August. Putting the R40 slants on the E would be pointless because they are set to retire in April-May 2009 right after the R38s. one more thing, long platforms are a poor excuse to swap cars because that does not happen on just the C, but also on the G as well as couple of stations on the BMT Sea Beach Line, as these two videos I recorded last summer will show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted December 30, 2008 Share #124 Posted December 30, 2008 Then the issue is, how will the R32s get to 207th Yard without being transferred to the A/C? Transferring them straight to the yard during late nights? yeah, just send them straight to the 207th street after their outlived their usefulness on the E. E riders want the R32s to stay due to their strong heating. just because you send a car to 207th street does not mean it has to run on the A/C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted December 30, 2008 Share #125 Posted December 30, 2008 They will have to pay Train Operators to transfer trains from Jamaica Yd to 207 YD for scapping. They do have T/O's assigned for Scrap and New Car Delievery so the money is already there. When there is no trains to scrap or test for service they are Extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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