UlmerPark B6 Posted December 30, 2008 #1 Posted December 30, 2008 BY ERIN EINHORN DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU Sunday, December 28th 2008, 9:59 PM President-elect Barack Obama's economic stimulus plan may get New York an extra station for the extended No. 7 train line, upgraded subway stations and 1,500 new hybrid buses, Sen. Chuck Schumer said yesterday. Though details of the massive package Obama wants to sign in his first days in office are still being worked out, Schumer said he expects about $4 billion for mass transit in New York. That's enough to create 180,000 jobs and leave the city with lasting improvements to its subway, bus and commuter rail systems. "A $4 billion shot in the arm is going to be a very, very good shot in the arm," Schumer said Sunday during a press conference at his midtown office with Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-Manhattan), a member of the House Transportation Committee. Schumer said the cash would allow the MTA to build a subway station at 10th Ave. for the planned extension of the No. 7 train to the Javits Center. Top Obama adviser David Axelrod yesterday told CBS' "Face the Nation" that the stimulus plan designed to pull the country out of recession could cost as much as $775 billion. Schumer, the third-ranking Democrat in the Senate, said he, Nadler and other leaders are also pushing for $20 billion in mass transit improvements. "We are confident that we will get a very, very good number ... maybe a little more, maybe a little less," Schumer said. New York typically gets about a fifth of federal transit dollars, making the city's share about $4 billion. It could kick-start projects that have been delayed or postponed by the MTA's dire finances. "There's no better way to stimulate the economy than to invest in the public transportation system that is its lifeblood," said MTA spokesman Jeremy Soffin.
Novabus 5000 Posted December 30, 2008 #2 Posted December 30, 2008 Does that mean we are getting 1,500 new buses?
MTR Admiralty Posted December 30, 2008 #3 Posted December 30, 2008 Screw the buses, I rather the money be spent on fixing our crappy infrastructure and saving us from massive fare hikes and service cuts. But thanks anyways, Obama. YES WE CAN.
UlmerPark B6 Posted December 30, 2008 Author #4 Posted December 30, 2008 Does that mean we are getting 1,500 new buses? No, only when Obama takes office and gives us a bailout package.
SubwayGuy Posted December 30, 2008 #5 Posted December 30, 2008 Does that mean we are getting 1,500 new buses? no...we don't need more buses. long term the best thing to do will be invest in subways because they are faster, more energy efficient, and keep people and vehicles off the streets which reduces congestion. as the population continues to grow, subways are the most efficient way to move people around while causing the least disruptions. expanding the system in the long run will be to everyone's benefit.
RokuSix Posted December 31, 2008 #6 Posted December 31, 2008 This is nice to hear. I just hope it comes to pass.
MattTrain Posted December 31, 2008 #7 Posted December 31, 2008 Well Barack Obama is doing something good for the these days, I hope this goes through, and save New Yorkers from a fare hike, nobody wants to go through.
Amtrak7 Posted December 31, 2008 #8 Posted December 31, 2008 The money should be spent in an even way. Even if a boost is gotten, budget cuts should still be considered. My order of spending- KEEP FARES STABLE! NYC Subway Stations NYC Tunnel Infrastructure (signals included) MNCRR Structures LIRR pre-1897 undergrade bridge replacement M3/M1/M2 retirement, M8 procurement Finish ESA Multi-track SAS ph 3+4
MTR Admiralty Posted December 31, 2008 #9 Posted December 31, 2008 The money should be spent in an even way. Even if a boost is gotten, budget cuts should still be considered. My order of spending- KEEP FARES STABLE! NYC Subway Stations NYC Tunnel Infrastructure (signals included) MNCRR Structures LIRR pre-1897 undergrade bridge replacement M3/M1/M2 retirement, M8 procurement Finish ESA Multi-track SAS ph 3+4 They should really focus on the big dollar projects such as the SAS
Joe Posted December 31, 2008 #10 Posted December 31, 2008 I know this was posted in General Subway, but it was mentioned two posts up: The whole ESA project should be put on the back burner until SAS is completed. With the LIRR running to the east side, do we really need more crowded Lex Ave trains? You're increasing passenger load without increasing capacity, and those Lex platforms are borderline dangerous during rush hour, I would say. I try to avoid the Lex as much as possible just because it's so crowded. Any money that the MTA receives in packages should be first used to stave off a fare hike, and then pumped into SAS to get the damn thing done after what, 70-80 years?
metsfan Posted December 31, 2008 #11 Posted December 31, 2008 I know this was posted in General Subway, but it was mentioned two posts up: The whole ESA project should be put on the back burner until SAS is completed. With the LIRR running to the east side, do we really need more crowded Lex Ave trains? You're increasing passenger load without increasing capacity, and those Lex platforms are borderline dangerous during rush hour, I would say. I try to avoid the Lex as much as possible just because it's so crowded. Any money that the MTA receives in packages should be first used to stave off a fare hike, and then pumped into SAS to get the damn thing done after what, 70-80 years? The east side access project manhattan tunneling phase is complete and on schedule for a fully operational completion some time in 2012. MNRR/LIRR connection has priority. - A
KeystoneRegional Posted December 31, 2008 #12 Posted December 31, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters
MTR Admiralty Posted January 1, 2009 #13 Posted January 1, 2009 The east side access project manhattan tunneling phase is complete and on schedule for a fully operational completion some time in 2012. MNRR/LIRR connection has priority. - A I can't be too sure about dates, but I agree, the reason being is because when you look at the bigger picture, the East Side Access will actually improve connections. It will relieve the pressure at Penn Station, by providing a new outlet at Grand Central. Also, it was found that many LIRR commuters had jobs on the East Side, so the ESA will shorten their commutes. Currently, these commuters have to ride the subway to their East Midtown destinations. This would not be needed when the ESA is completed, so it can free up some subway lines as well. Barak Obama has less power to control the , only the State ans City has more power since Obama has like 1,000's of things to do per month and cannot concentrate on the fully... No political (by party)/religious/etnicity talk since it isn't the best way (for me)... Well, the Cash boost may help a little, ... It is not about control, Obama is not controlling the MTA. I am really grateful that he included the MTA as part of his stimulus package. Transportation is crucial when it comes to rebuilding the economy.
KeystoneRegional Posted January 1, 2009 #14 Posted January 1, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters
UlmerPark B6 Posted January 1, 2009 Author #15 Posted January 1, 2009 I know it is not, dude get over it... If your mind cannot match my mind, they don't respond like you are trying to start a flame war... And you are like one of the three main persons who is increasing my posts, mainly because I am trying to counter your false comments on me... I am satisfyed that he has considered the in his stimulus package too... I know transportation is crucial to maintain on-time things... LOL, let me ask you, who are those 3 people?
KeystoneRegional Posted January 1, 2009 #16 Posted January 1, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters
MTR Admiralty Posted January 1, 2009 #17 Posted January 1, 2009 Anyways, I think the priorities for the money should head to the big dollar projects such as the SAS and ESA as well as rehabilitating the system. The money should prevent service cuts and fare hikes and cover up that deficit. Additionally if there are enough the money should go to improving our transit connections, such as implementing effective BRT systems. I know the money is not enough for additional subway expansion projects but some of the money should also go to studies for such projects in the future.
w8Hou Posted January 2, 2009 #18 Posted January 2, 2009 no...we don't need more buses. long term the best thing to do will be invest in subways because they are faster, more energy efficient, and keep people and vehicles off the streets which reduces congestion. as the population continues to grow, subways are the most efficient way to move people around while causing the least disruptions. expanding the system in the long run will be to everyone's benefit. Actually, we need new buses to replace 13+ year old buses with body rot, leaking roofs, lack of ac and poor accelerator.
MTR Admiralty Posted January 2, 2009 #19 Posted January 2, 2009 Actually, we need new buses to replace 13+ year old buses with body rot, leaking roofs, lack of ac and poor accelerator. You mean our RTS?
w8Hou Posted January 2, 2009 #20 Posted January 2, 2009 You mean our RTS? Yes the 1991-1994 RTS including MTA Bus RTS takeover buses, 1993-1995 Orion V diesel.
MTR Admiralty Posted January 2, 2009 #21 Posted January 2, 2009 Yes the 1991-1994 RTS including MTA Bus RTS takeover buses, 1993-1995 Orion V diesel. Yeah some of the older RTS and O5s ought to retire.
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