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R160 Fleet

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As you may know, R160A's compromise 100% of the (M)'s fleet.

 

The (J)(L) and (Z) have R160A's running on their lines as well as the (E).

The (N)(Q) and (W) have R160A and R160B cars on their lines.

 

I am hearing rumors that by mid to Fall of 2009, the (N)(Q) and (W) will have R160A and R160B cars take over their entire fleets, forcing the R68 and R68A to the (:rolleyes:(D) and even the (G).

 

The (F) will begin using R160A cars this year.

 

So what do you think of these ideas? :cool:

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As you may know, R160A's compromise 100% of the (M)'s fleet.

 

The (J)(L) and (Z) have R160A's running on their lines as well as the (E).

The (N)(Q) and (W) have R160A and R160B cars on their lines.

 

I am hearing rumors that by mid to Fall of 2009, the (N)(Q) and (W) will have R160A and R160B cars take over their entire fleets, forcing the R68 and R68A to the (:rolleyes:(D) and even the (G).

 

The (F) will begin using R160A cars this year.

 

So what do you think of these ideas? :cool:

 

They are two different R-160A's.....be more specific

 

(J)(L)(M)(Z) uses R-160A-1's

(E)(N)(Q)(W) uses R-160A-2's

The (F) will use the R-160A-2's

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They are two different R-160A's.....be more specific

 

(J)(L)(M)(Z) uses R-160A-1's

(E)(N)(Q)(W) uses R-160A-2's

The (F) will use the R-160A-2's

 

Question? R160A-1 is four car sets and R160A-2 are five car sets, right. Does that really matter if I don't use that? I know the shorter R160A's run on the (J)(L)(M)(Z) and the longer ones run on the (E)(N)(Q)(W) and (F) eventually.

 

Okay I'll use the R160A-1 and R160A-2 distinction from now on. :cool:

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Wow, that is a really simplified fleet, looking at what they're coming from. I would think that fleet reduction would really help in cutting costs.

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Yes, sure it will. In fact going into a more late 20th *Why I call it a gal? Because trains, busses, cars, boats and planes are gals and laptop, camera and related are guys! Proof from CNET.

 

Agreed

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I thought the(J)(Z) was all R160. By the yard roster, there are 5 sets of R42's left. Do they run on (J) or (Z)

 

R179 will only simplify the fleet further.

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I thought the(J)(Z) was all R160. By the yard roster, there are 5 sets of R42's left. Do they run on (J) or (Z)

 

R179 will only simplify the fleet further.

 

yeah, R42s still run on the J/Z. this is how the car assignment should look like by 2010:

 

(A): R44s, R46s, and maybe R68s

(:D: R68/68As

(C): R46s and maybe R44s and/or R68s

(D): R68s

(E): R160s

(F): R160s and R46s

(G): R68/68As

(J): R160As

(L): R143s and R160As

(M): R160As

(N): R160s

(Q): R160s

(R): R46s and maybe R160s

(V): R46s

(W): R160s

(Z): R160s

 

the R179s will probably go on the B and D and R68s sent to Pitkin to replace the R44s.

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i thought that the R179 was a rumor?

 

no, the R179s will be ordered because the R44s are set to retire in 2011-2013. the R188s are just rumors because they are completely useless right now.

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I thought the(J)(Z) was all R160. By the yard roster, there are 5 sets of R42's left. Do they run on (J) or (Z)

 

R179 will only simplify the fleet further.

Yes, they run on the J and Z. Usually on the Z, sometimes the R42 will show up on the J every now and then. They will stay until the R160A Option Order 2 cars arrive. Then the remaining R42 will retire.

the R179s will probably go on the B and D and R68s sent to Pitkin to replace the R44s.

Why would the R179s go to the B and D?

Remember, the B is based out of Coney Island Yard and the D is based out of Concourse Yard.

I believe the base order of the R179 will go to the A. The reason being is that the A currently runs 208 R44s, the base order of the R179s comprises of 208 cars, no? So it would fit directly. I don't think they should move trains around all over again. But yes, I am pretty sure some R46s will turn up at Pitkin.

i thought that the R179 was a rumor?

It was, however it seems though that it is more definite.

no, the R179s will be ordered because the R44s are set to retire in 2011-2013. the R188s are just rumors because they are completely useless right now.

I can't be exact with your retirement date of 2011-2013, we have to have to be sure that the cars will be ordered, delivered, tested and placed in service in a timely matter before we could give retirement dates of the R44s.

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As I believe that this how the (MTA) may end up after all the R-32, R-38, R-40, R-40M and R-42 are sadly gone...

 

(A) will consist of R-160 and R-44.

(;) will consist fully R-68.

(C) will consist of R-160 and R-68.

(D) will consist of few R-160 and R-68.

(E) will be all R-160.

(F) will consist of R-46 and R-160.

(G) will consist of R-46 and R-160.

(H) will consist of R-44.

(J) will be all R-160.

(L) will consist of R-143 and R-160.

(M) will be all R-160.

(N) will be all R-160, maybe few R-68.

(Q) will consist of R-68 and R-160.

(R) will be all R-46.

(S) Franklin, will be all R-68.

(V) will be all R-46.

(W) will be all R-160, maybe few R-68.

(Z) will be all R-160.

 

BMT/IND Fleet:

R-44

R-46

R-68/68A

R-143

R-160/160A/160B

 

It's really too early to make almost any predictions as to how things will look by 2010 or "when all SMEEs are retired". The R-46s may not all remain at Jamaica. The (G) may not get R-68/As. The (A), (C), or (D) may not see any R-160s. There is not much to go on to make that may predictions right now. A few months ago, who thought the (A), much less the (C), would ever see R-40 slants before they retire (a couple mixed with R-40Ms)? Or the (E) & (R) having mixed trains of R-42s & R-40M's? All (at least most) bets are off.

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It's really too early to make almost any predictions as to how things will look by 2010 or "when all SMEEs are retired". The R-46s may not all remain at Jamaica. The (G) may not get R-68/As. The (A), (C), or (D) may not see any R-160s. There is not much to go on to make that may predictions right now. A few months ago, who thought the (A), much less the (C), would ever see R-40 slants before they retire (a couple mixed with R-40Ms)? Or the (E) & (R) having mixed trains of R-42s & R-40M's? All (at least most) bets are off.

 

IAWTP 100%.

Things are turbulent now because the car assignments are getting more irregular now that the SMEEs are slated to retire soon. Don't forget that the R160 Option 2 orders are coming and the R179s will be ordered. In conjunction, there are reports that a third optional order of the R160s will be ordered. We really don't know what will happen in the near future... in fact, we can't be too sure what will happen A YEAR FROM NOW.

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