Maserati7200 Posted January 7, 2009 Share #1 Posted January 7, 2009 As we all know, the R160's weren't on the until recently. The is the first IND line to get R160's. Previously R160's only appeared on lines that are purely BMT. The , , , , , and are 100% BMT lines. Now, the IND gets a go with R160's. If you guys are gonna say that the had them in September 2006, that was a 30 day test, nothing permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 7, 2009 Share #2 Posted January 7, 2009 Yeah, up until recently, the R160s went on the BMT lines. Well, the R160s were meant for both the IND/BMT divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62A 1991 Posted January 7, 2009 Share #3 Posted January 7, 2009 That is cool actually. Now the R160s are on either an all BMT line or an all IND line. Which line could possibly be the one to interchange the BMT and the IND? I guess we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted January 7, 2009 Share #4 Posted January 7, 2009 The countdown to the R160A/B on the begins. There's only two R160 trains on the now, and harder to catch a ride on it, by my experience. The R160 on the is always going the opposite direction I'm riding the R32 or R42 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted January 7, 2009 Share #5 Posted January 7, 2009 The countdown to the R160A/B on the begins. There's only two R160 trains on the now, and harder to catch a ride on it, by my experience. The R160 on the is always going the opposite direction I'm riding the R32 or R42 . Omg, the same thing happens to me. When I went to Manhattan last Friday, the R160 was at Union Turnpike going to Jamaica. On the way back, it was at Van Wyck Blvd going to Manhattan. Its all luck and timing I guess. Also, I believe that the will get them eventually. The set that the uses is a different set from what the uses therefore probably making up the third set for Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted January 7, 2009 Share #6 Posted January 7, 2009 Although they will likely hit the first, an R-160 was seen testing on the N/B express track at Pacific St a few weeks ago. So that would be another "BMT & IND" line which might run some R-160s in near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MattTrain Posted January 7, 2009 Share #8 Posted January 7, 2009 Omg, the same thing happens to me. When I went to Manhattan last Friday, the R160 was at Union Turnpike going to Jamaica. On the way back, it was at Van Wyck Blvd going to Manhattan. Its all luck and timing I guess. Also, I believe that the will get them eventually. The set that the uses is a different set from what the uses therefore probably making up the third set for Jamaica. Yup, the countdown begins... Well, if you want a good chance to catch a R-160 try Lexington Ave-53rd St station, otherwise try W.T.C., Jamaica-Van Wyck, Jamaica-Sutphin or Jamaica-Parsons/Archer... It takes luck and timing. Waiting at terminal stops such as World Trade Center and Jamaica Center probably won't be effective, because I could be waiting as much as an hour and I don't want fellow riders to think I'm doing something suspicious. Maybe Lexington Avenue-53rd Street, and Jamaica Van Wyck would be a good idea. Thanks for your info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 7, 2009 Share #9 Posted January 7, 2009 The countdown to the R160A/B on the begins. There's only two R160 trains on the now, and harder to catch a ride on it, by my experience. The R160 on the is always going the opposite direction I'm riding the R32 or R42 . Wow... you should wait near a terminus for the R160. I got a second ride on the R160 at World Trade Centre on Monday. I came back from visiting Ground Zero, and when I got to the platform, I heard the Alstom Propulsion! And I'm like HOLY CRAP! That was pure luck! Omg, the same thing happens to me. When I went to Manhattan last Friday, the R160 was at Union Turnpike going to Jamaica. On the way back, it was at Van Wyck Blvd going to Manhattan. Its all luck and timing I guess. Also, I believe that the will get them eventually. The set that the uses is a different set from what the uses therefore probably making up the third set for Jamaica. Based on my intel on the R160s and TheJoeKorner's car assignments, 430 R160s are going to Jamaica Yard. 260 of them will fill up on the E (the E runs 26 trains), I am guessing that the remaining sets 17 trains in total, will go to the F. So yeah, the F will get them eventually. Although they will likely hit the first, an R-160 was seen testing on the N/B express track at Pacific St a few weeks ago. So that would be another "BMT & IND" line which might run some R-160s in near future. Interesting! However, remember that the R160s were tested on the B line, however AFAIK, there are no official plans to run those cars on the B line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 7, 2009 Share #10 Posted January 7, 2009 Yup, the countdown begins... Well, if you want a good chance to catch a R-160 try Lexington Ave-53rd St station, otherwise try W.T.C., Jamaica-Van Wyck, Jamaica-Sutphin or Jamaica-Parsons/Archer... My comment above says it all, and yes for the , but they can use different car anytime... Well, the R-160 is mainly covering the spaces the R-32, R-38, R-40, R-40M and R-42 left. So expect it to go on the and anytime, may also run it... F running R160s is highly likely. There is a rare possibility that the R will run them as well, I am pretty sure the V is NOT going to run them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted January 8, 2009 Share #11 Posted January 8, 2009 What's really cool is that the IND division is running solely R160As!! In the future, it's gonna really quiet under Queens Blvd and 8th Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 8, 2009 Share #12 Posted January 8, 2009 What's really cool is that the IND division is running solely R160As!! In the future, it's gonna really quiet under Queens Blvd and 8th Avenue. I can't be 100% sure that the A/C lines are getting R160s in the future. They are not running soley R160As, you still have hippos on the D and the R44s on the A, the R46s at Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted January 8, 2009 Share #13 Posted January 8, 2009 I can't be 100% sure that the A/C lines are getting R160s in the future.They are not running soley R160As, you still have hippos on the D and the R44s on the A, the R46s at Jamaica. they are not going on the . i think the will be the only IND lines to use the R160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 8, 2009 Share #14 Posted January 8, 2009 they are not going on the . i think the will be the only IND lines to use the R160s. That's what I thought too. And the G would use hippos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted January 8, 2009 Share #15 Posted January 8, 2009 Interesting! However, remember that the R160s were tested on the B line, however AFAIK, there are no official plans to run those cars on the B line. I don't know if it would be in keeping with NYCTF's Rules & Terms of Use to post a link, but I found the thread from another board which reported it. It was seen by well known and trusted poster from that board. Just to sum it up, it was seen burn testing on 12/16/08 at 1447 hrs at Lawrence St signed as an to 71/Continental. The interesting thing is that this train was on the N/B express track at Pacific St across from an in-service . Car #s from the north were 9238/9/40/41/42 and 9233/34/35/36/37 (2 units). Of course, they might just be burn testing so that in the event Jamaica puts one into service, it will be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted January 8, 2009 Share #16 Posted January 8, 2009 R160B's are supposed to eventually run on the and in the future, so I don't think that R160A's will dominate the IND, meaning whichever lines use them. Which brings up this point, why intermix the R160A-2 with the R160B cars? I somehow ride the and R160B train car, without realizing the other half of that R160 train is R160A-2 cars. Maybe because the traction motors are the same, but the doors are very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted January 8, 2009 Share #17 Posted January 8, 2009 As we all know, the R160's weren't on the until recently. The is the first IND line to get R160's. Previously R160's only appeared on lines that are purely BMT. The , , , , , and are 100% BMT lines. Now, the IND gets a go with R160's. If you guys are gonna say that the had them in September 2006, that was a 30 day test, nothing permanent. You Forgot the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 8, 2009 Share #18 Posted January 8, 2009 R160B's are supposed to eventually run on the and in the future, so I don't think that R160A's will dominate the IND, meaning whichever lines use them. Which brings up this point, why intermix the R160A-2 with the R160B cars? I somehow ride the and R160B train car, without realizing the other half of that R160 train is R160A-2 cars. Maybe because the traction motors are the same, but the doors are very different. And R160As. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted January 9, 2009 Share #19 Posted January 9, 2009 Your not going to find a R160A in service on the anytime soon right now its strickly the and maybe the . However since R160A's belong to JYD now they must be able to run on any of the lines so they have to be tested on the Lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 9, 2009 Share #20 Posted January 9, 2009 R160B's are supposed to eventually run on the and in the future, so I don't think that R160A's will dominate the IND, meaning whichever lines use them. Which brings up this point, why intermix the R160A-2 with the R160B cars? I somehow ride the and R160B train car, without realizing the other half of that R160 train is R160A-2 cars. Maybe because the traction motors are the same, but the doors are very different. It is the traction motors. The R160A's & the R160B (8713-8842, 9103-9242) uses Alstom Onix traction motors while the R160B (8843-9102) uses Siemens traction motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted January 9, 2009 Share #21 Posted January 9, 2009 You Forgot the . And R160As. Yeah, I did forget the Oops, I must have thought too fast, I do know that R160A's run on the . Did I forget mentioning that R160A's run on the already, or eventually on the ? Oops, sorry, the option order R160B's are in the 9120's now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 11, 2009 Share #22 Posted January 11, 2009 Yeah, I did forget the Oops, I must have thought too fast, I do know that R160A's run on the . Did I forget mentioning that R160A's run on the already, or eventually on the ? Oops, sorry, the option order R160B's are in the 9120's now. Up to 9122 are in service. Up to 9142 are at property. However that is R160B for Coney Island. 9163-9232 will be for Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share #23 Posted January 11, 2009 9163-9232 will be for Jamaica. Really? That means CIY has to wait until option 2 comes (next year) to have it's lines that consist of R160's fully R160. The is about 30-60% R160's (depends on the day) the is about 95% R160's (I caught an R68 train on Tuesday) and the has a significant amount of R68/R68A's on it. The lines are not complete yet. Why does the not finish a yard then go to the next one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted January 11, 2009 Share #24 Posted January 11, 2009 Really? That means CIY has to wait until option 2 comes (next year) to have it's lines that consist of R160's fully R160. The is about 30-60% R160's (depends on the day) the is about 95% R160's (I caught an R68 train on Tuesday) and the has a significant amount of R68/R68A's on it. The lines are not complete yet. Why does the not finish a yard then go to the next one? There are different manufacturers: Alstom, Kawasaki, some with Simens propulsion, some with Alstom-onix. I would think that the orders and options come in at different times. The five-car R-160B's went to CIY, four-car R-160A's went to ENY, now there are five-car R-160A–2's some of which are are going to CIY others to Jamaica. Correct me if I'm wrong, I've started to lose track at this point, but I would think that's why they're not filling one yard at a time. Also, there isn't any rush to have the & lines 100% R-160. Even after all of the R-160s are at CIY (I don't know if that's happened yet), I don't know if it's set in stone that those three lines will never again see R-68/A's. Aren't the only remaining SMEE's at CIY the handful of slants on the (? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted January 11, 2009 Share #25 Posted January 11, 2009 Really? That means CIY has to wait until option 2 comes (next year) to have it's lines that consist of R160's fully R160. The is about 30-60% R160's (depends on the day) the is about 95% R160's (I caught an R68 train on Tuesday) and the has a significant amount of R68/R68A's on it. The lines are not complete yet. Why does the not finish a yard then go to the next one? CIY is only set to get up to 9162. The rest of the order after that will go to Jamaica. I'm seeing 9120's on the road now, and if 9140's are on the property, there's only a few more sets to go. (And that would be just enough to replace the remainder of the slants). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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