Tbirdbassist Posted January 17, 2009 Share #1 Posted January 17, 2009 Found on Flickr, sorry if these have been posted before. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ensel/234773507/in/set-72057594138731417/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ensel/234773508/in/set-72057594138731417/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ensel/234773509/in/set-72057594138731417/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ensel/234773510/in/set-72057594138731417/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ensel/234784602/in/set-72057594138731417/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ensel/234784604/in/set-72057594138731417/ Very interesting, that seems to go on for a pretty far distance, I thought it was short like on the uptown sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted January 17, 2009 Share #2 Posted January 17, 2009 Nice pics, the tunnels are not gonna be used for you know. Too bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted January 17, 2009 Share #3 Posted January 17, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 17, 2009 Share #4 Posted January 17, 2009 Nice pics, the tunnels are not gonna be used for you know. Too bad! They look perfectly fine 2 me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted January 17, 2009 Share #5 Posted January 17, 2009 AWWang, and Fresh Pond, base on Peter Dougherty's book, quote "The short section of tunnel was orginally built for the purpose of connecting the 1970-era Second Avenue Line into Grand St, where it would have formed the outer two tracks around the existing platforms. This tunnel wa smaintaine dby the but will not be used and may possibly, ultimately, be fillied-in or abandoned". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 17, 2009 Share #6 Posted January 17, 2009 These tunnels are not near Chatham Square in any manner. These tunnels are from the Manhattan Bridge plaza ending around Pell Street around the Confucius Plaza building. If you go to Chinatown and head over to Bowery and continue to the pedestrian bridge path, you will see a ventilation structure, with sidewalk gratings in a suppressed space. That suppressed space along with the aforementioned structures were supposed to be part of the 1970s construction. Construction was halted due to the fact that it undermined several of the supporting beams of the Confucius Plaza tower. I doubt Phase 4 will use these tunnels since it will undermine the structure above. Phase 4 will be interesting, there are generally 3 major options: shallow Chrystie (tracks to be built along Bridge tracks; bes option IMO), deep Chrystie (tracks are under existing Bridge tracks) and Forsyth (tracks to be built under Forsyth Street) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA 8th Avenue Posted January 17, 2009 Share #7 Posted January 17, 2009 That was very stupid of the MTA! Damn wastes of money by them and then they want us to foot the biil after all their f-ups look at all that construction wasted or abandoned!! what would the system look like if all that construction was used to its full potential... What a shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted January 17, 2009 Share #8 Posted January 17, 2009 Nice finds, I have found this user on flickr and his site has some very fine pics of the unseen underground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 17, 2009 Share #9 Posted January 17, 2009 Nice finds, I have found this user on flickr and his site has some very fine pics of the unseen underground! Any 76th Street pics? :cool::cool: Seems like he's an urban explorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devb Posted January 18, 2009 Share #10 Posted January 18, 2009 > Seems like he's an urban explorer. All locations were accessed legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 18, 2009 Share #11 Posted January 18, 2009 > Seems like he's an urban explorer. All locations were accessed legally. Legally? Wow, I wonder how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devb Posted January 18, 2009 Share #12 Posted January 18, 2009 through work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 18, 2009 Share #13 Posted January 18, 2009 through work. Lucky person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted January 18, 2009 Share #14 Posted January 18, 2009 Cool pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbirdbassist Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted January 18, 2009 These tunnels are not near Chatham Square in any manner. These tunnels are from the Manhattan Bridge plaza ending around Pell Street around the Confucius Plaza building. If you go to Chinatown and head over to Bowery and continue to the pedestrian bridge path, you will see a ventilation structure, with sidewalk gratings in a suppressed space. That suppressed space along with the aforementioned structures were supposed to be part of the 1970s construction.Construction was halted due to the fact that it undermined several of the supporting beams of the Confucius Plaza tower. I doubt Phase 4 will use these tunnels since it will undermine the structure above. Phase 4 will be interesting, there are generally 3 major options: shallow Chrystie (tracks to be built along Bridge tracks; bes option IMO), deep Chrystie (tracks are under existing Bridge tracks) and Forsyth (tracks to be built under Forsyth Street) Err... Pell St is barely two blocks away from Chatnam Sq. I'd say that's pretty near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted January 18, 2009 Share #16 Posted January 18, 2009 Nice to have you on the site, I see you go places for your work. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted January 18, 2009 Share #17 Posted January 18, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted January 18, 2009 Share #18 Posted January 18, 2009 Oh, okay... So it could be used for some subway connection but it would not be worth it... Maybe an underground retail mall would be good, ! Well it can't be used, because it's the same level as the ( and Grand Street, and the is to be planned below that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 18, 2009 Share #19 Posted January 18, 2009 Err... Pell St is barely two blocks away from Chatnam Sq. I'd say that's pretty near. I live in Chinatown. Still, that is not Chatham Square. Chatham Square is the area where East Broadway, Bowery, St James Pl, Worth, Oliver and Park Row all merge together. It is like trying to call the WFC a part of the World Trade Centre when it is not. (They are separated by West Street) Let us leave it that it is in Chinatown. Plus, not everyone knows where specifically Chatham Square is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted January 18, 2009 Share #20 Posted January 18, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted January 18, 2009 Share #21 Posted January 18, 2009 But, is it very close to the ( and Grand Street? If so, it can't... If not, it can... Look the tunnel was built the same level as the Grand St. Station, the tunnel extendeds from about the area before the ( and takes a curve to the Manny, and south to somewhere around the M103, Bowery-City Hall checkpoint. The is going to be below the current Grand St. Station, so the would not rise along with the and just to get to this tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted January 18, 2009 Share #22 Posted January 18, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 18, 2009 Share #23 Posted January 18, 2009 Look the tunnel was built the same level as the Grand St. Station, the tunnel extendeds from about the area before the ( and takes a curve to the Manny, and south to somewhere around the M103, Bowery-City Hall checkpoint. The is going to be below the current Grand St. Station, so the would not rise along with the ( and just to get to this tunnel. Given the fact that the tunnel will have to dive under the Manhattan Bridge approach, it won't work. The train would have to negotiate sharp grades in order to duck under the approach tracks and will be slowed down. This is already exhibited on the F line SB when it has to duck under the PATH before West 4th. By the way, the tunnel ends around Pell Street, it doesn't continue past there. Otherwise, we might see a station built, given your description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted January 21, 2009 Share #24 Posted January 21, 2009 That space is planned for ancillary use (which could be electrical or other rooms) for the subway, according to the SAS documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted January 21, 2009 Share #25 Posted January 21, 2009 That space is planned for ancillary use (which could be electrical or other rooms) for the subway, according to the SAS documents. The former tunnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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