New Flyer C40LF vs. Orion VII

[nycbusfan]

What bus do you like better A New Flyer C40LF or an Orion VII?

 

As a passenger I would say the C40LF is a better bus because it rides better than an Orion VII and you don't feel like you are as low to the ground.

[Pablo M 201]

I'm going with the O7s on this one. I caught O7 fever.

[Harry]

I haven't rode neither but just by looks I'm also going with the O7.

[DOB2RTO]

As you might of read I drove both low floor CNG models. The New Flyer CNG will leave the Orion VII CNG in the dust. The New Flyer has a WAY FASTER acceleration. It is roomier, and is slightly larger. Hands down from this driver, the New Flyer C40LF rules!

 

Now the O7 Hybrids are a category of their own.

[DHayward]

I've always been a fan of most things New Flyer, myself.

[BJC]

The last time I rode a NF C40lf was back in 2004,but I like these buses better than the Orion 7 vng,because NF is little bigger and NF doesn't jerk like the Orion 7 cng in which the ride is bad.

[TransitGuy]

New Flyer for sure, its a shame that the MTA can't buy New Flyer hybrids. I'm a bit tired of the Orion VII fever since it will pretty much be the RTS of the current fleet soon.

[nycbusfan]

Another thing i don't like about the Orion VII is that the bottom of the windows should be lower, I'm about 5'10 and the window goes down to my mouth when I am sitting straight.

[Tracknut]

Can someone post a photo of each bus model for those of us who are not familiar with them.

[PATCOman]

New Flyer C40LF:

 

 

Taken by Pablo

These kind of buses are only found in Jackie Gleason Depot in Brooklyn.

 

 

Orion VII Hybrid:

 

 

Taken by Trevor Logan

These kind of buses are only found in Manhattanville, Mother Hale, Fresh Pond, East New York, Casey Stengel, Queens Villiage, Spring Creek, Far Rockaway, JFK, and Laguardia.

 

 

While I am at this, Orion VII CNG, note that the top tank is larger:

 

 

Taken by Trevor Logan

These kind of buses are only found in West Farms, and Jackie Gleason Depots.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

For the survey, I don't ride the low floor New Flyers in New York that often. As for the Orion VIIs, I like the sound of the CNGs and the acceleration of the HEVs.

[nycbusfan]

Heres are interior shots of these buses.

 

New Flyer C40LF.

 

Orion VII.

[TSOH]

I like the new flyer c40lf.

[sebbieprops]

I'll go with the Orion VII.

[PATCOman]

There are also some foward facing seats in the rear section of the Orion VII, but those are in the older models.

 

In fact, I'll go with the New Flyer. The Stop request indicator is easier to see in light, and the rear section is not too high. The only cons about the C40LFs are that there are no windows that can open in the rear and no emergency exit windows in the rear.

[DOB2RTO]

Is that an Orion VII Hybrid. I know in the Orion VII CNG they have only four seats in the rear (like the Orion V), not five. Still as a driver as I said before, I like the drive of the New Flyer CNG, hands down over the best driving Orion VII CNG. I have got a few Orion VII CNG that came close to the way the New Flyer CNG accelerates. Close but no cigar (actually a cigar might cause a big BOOM!).

[nycbusfan]

Is that an Orion VII Hybrid. I know in the Orion VII CNG they have only four seats in the rear (like the Orion V), not five. Still as a driver as I said before, I like the drive of the New Flyer CNG, hands down over the best driving Orion VII CNG. I have got a few Orion VII CNG that came close to the way the New Flyer CNG accelerates. Close but no cigar (actually a cigar might cause a big BOOM!).

That is the interior of Orion VII Hybrid 6894.

[nycbusfan]

There are also some foward facing seats in the rear section of the Orion VII, but those are in the older models.

 

In fact, I'll go with the New Flyer. The Stop request indicator is easier to see in light, and the rear section is not too high. The only cons about the C40LFs are that there are no windows that can open in the rear and no emergency exit windows in the rear.

I think the rear seats change from foward facing to side facing at 6741 in NYCT and 3549 at MTA Bus.

[BJC]

6740-on up have the new seat

 

3550-on up have the new seat.