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I still cannot tell the difference between.

R142/R143/R160

 

I know R142 is IRT, R143 is BMT and R160 is BMT/IND.

Orion 07.501 Hybrid and CNG

Orion 07.501 Next Generation Hybrid and CNG

 

R44 and R46

R32 and R38

R40/R40M/R42

R62A/R62

R68/R68A

CNG/Detroise Diseal for LIB

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R142/143 are really stupidly obvious. R143 and 160 are slightly different.

 

R32 an 38 are REALLY obvious, it's all on the outside.

 

R40 and R40M are really obvious too.

 

R40M and R42 the differences are slight on the outside, major on the inside.

 

R44 and R46 are I believe something like 95% identicle.

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R-143 *American Flag is below the (MTA) New York City Subway logo

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R-160 *American Flag is above the (MTA) New York City Subway logo

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R-38 *Lines cross below

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R-32 *Lines cross up and down

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Orion VII HEV *Battery pack on top

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Orion VII NG HEV

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Orion VII CNG *Tank on top

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R-142

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I still cannot tell the difference between.

R142/R143/R160

 

I know R142 is IRT, R143 is BMT and R160 is BMT/IND.

Orion 07.501 Hybrid and CNG

Orion 07.501 Next Generation Hybrid and CNG

 

R44 and R46

R32 and R38

R40/R40M/R42

R62A/R62

R68/R68A

CNG/Detroise Diseal for LIB

 

The R142 signs turn off while changing for example a (2) train would say "FLATBUSH AV", turn off, then say "7AV EXP" meanwhile the R143s and R160s do not turn of while chahging.

 

(R)(4)(4) Built buy St. Louis company

 

(R)(4)(6) Built buy Pullman Standard

 

The only differences are they make different sounds and have different numbers (R44: 5202-5479, R46: 5482-6207, 6208-6258 even only).

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(R)(4)(4) Built buy St. Louis company

 

(R)(4)(6) Built buy Pullman Standard

 

The only differences are they make different sounds and have different numbers (R44: 5202-5479, R46: 5482-6207, 6208-6258 even only).

 

The stripe in the middle of the car body is carbon steel on the R44s, and stainless steel on the R46s. There is a noticeable lack of luster on the R44's carbon steel stripe.

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R40 speaking in general consists of R40 Slants and R40 Modified.

 

R40 Slants have the slant ends, and were the original order for the R40.

Due to safety concerns, the R40M evolved. It's the exact same thing as the R40S except that its A car end has a straight end as opposed to the Slant.

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?72342

 

Comparing R40s to R42, the corrugations are much more wider on the R42 than a R40.

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?89789

 

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R142 are broken down to just R142, and R142A. (And the R142S which is the same thing as the R142A)

 

For R142s, the propulsion is from Alstom while on a R142A/S, it a BTPC 1508C.

If you take a look at the A car end of a R142, you will see that the cab was a 2-piece install. (Look at the line at the top of the storm door) On a R142A/S, its just one piece, and you don't see a line at all. An easy way of distinguishing between the two is that a R142 looks sad, while a R142A has a more darker "face" so to say.

 

Inside the R142s, a R142 Interior Info display flashes on and off between displays. On a R142A, it just switches to the next one how it does on a R143/R160.

 

R142s run on the (2)(4) and (5) lines. R142A/S run on the (6) and occasionally on the (4) and (5) lines.

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?89841 << R142

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?71679

 

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The R143 is a car of its own and it pretty much was based off the R142A and set a standard for the R160. It has the same propulsion as the R142A, and it is exclusively for East New York Yard. (They only have make appearances on the (L), and (M).) Inside, the R143 has only one door on its B car end. R143s have strip maps like the R142s. Also, there is an extra passenger display on the other side of the exterior route display.

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?3648

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?3645

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?3649

 

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The R160s can be broken down into R160As, and R160Bs. In general, all R160s have the flag under the MTA logo (like Curake pointed out), and they have artwork on the other side of the exterior route display. R160s also have FINDs instead of strip maps. On the B car ends, they have 2 doors like the R142s.

 

R160As can be broken into R160A-1s and R160A-2s. R160A-1s are 4 car sets, and are for East New York Yard. (Runs on the (J)(M)(Z)(L) and possibly run on the (C), and (G) due to their configurations) They have Alstom propulsion. R160A-2s are 5 car sets, and they are meant for pretty much any route. They also have Alstom propulsion.

 

R160Bs aren't broken down further. They are built in 5 car sets, and have either Alstom or Siemens propulsion. (There's a distinct difference) R160Bs run out of Coney Island Yard on the (N)(Q) and (W) lines.

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?79935

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/show?89233

Edited by SevenEleven

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