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Which is better: Redbirds or R62/62As???

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I go for the R62/62A. I love those little hippos. Redbirds would bring me scary dreams when I was a kid.

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No offense to all of you who like the R62s but my gripe with them always and will be is how dumb does the manufacturer have to be if you are going to make a subway ca for the American public why would you make the seating for Asian standards of 11 inches??? The MTA never bothered to check that out either???!!! No way can you fit 8 seats long between the door sets. That's why you always get a really fat person trying to sit in between you and another rider with 4 inches of space separating the two of you. The most uncomfortable train during the rush!!! The redbirds always felt roomy and were faster. Bottom line...

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I only operated a red bird in the yard, so I can't say to much on those. Never rode one in my life. Only the R62/R62A had I rode and operated in service. I love the R62A on the 1 line. They have maintained their equipment so well, that a few days ago they had 2 extra trains, they had to store in a area where trains hardly get stored (137 middle). No room in 207, or anywhere else. I asked the TSS who rode with me about it, he said, they might have to get them in the morning. Go Bombs, go (1) line. I've been stuck with those damn Kawasaki R142A on the (6) and (4) lines. The bomb R142's are great though. They still won't compete with my (1) line R62A. I love the air brake sound, when releasing the brakes. I love the way those trains respond when braking. Those NTT can't even hold hot air for customers for to long.

 

I would love to operate that redbird they have popping up around Corona and E.180st. Want to feel how it brakes, and how fast it is. The old time train operators tell me they were fast accelerating, and the scrapes in the tunnel between 110 and 96sts S/B, on the B'way/7th ave lines ((2)/(3)), shows this to be true........

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No offense to all of you who like the R62s but my gripe with them always and will be is how dumb does the manufacturer have to be if you are going to make a subway ca for the American public why would you make the seating for Asian standards of 11 inches??? The MTA never bothered to check that out either???!!! No way can you fit 8 seats long between the door sets. That's why you always get a really fat person trying to sit in between you and another rider with 4 inches of space separating the two of you. The most uncomfortable train during the rush!!! The redbirds always felt roomy and were faster. Bottom line...

 

I 100% agree with this post! Same problem with the NTT's even though there's no bucket seats.

 

Yeah, so vote goes to Redbirds.

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The redbirds did a crappy job.

The redbirds has too much problems.

the redbirds are pure garbage.

The redbirds suck.

 

What problems? I never saw any problems. Explain how they lasted almost 40 years if they were garbage.

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I don't dislike the R-62A, but they were never high on my list. I liked the R-62 from day one, back when the test train (1301-1310) was on the #4. I always loved the howl they made at speed and boy were they fast.

 

I like the redbirds in general, but I really liked the R-26/28 and R-29s after their GOH by Morrison-Knudsen. So, I'll take the R-33ML and R36 over the R-62A, but with the R-62 vs. the MK redbirds.... It's a tie for me.

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For me it's R33 originals,R33 redbirds ( 8806-9075), R62A and R62 in the rear. The original R33 (pre-mod) were the fastest cars in the IRT when they were maintained although the R62/62A cars could give them a good run for the money. The post-mod R33's could also fly but after the overhauls they were all governed down because they went faster than the signal system was designed for. That was also done to the R62/62A fleets. The only thing I have against the R62s is that whine when they take off. The Kawasaki R142A cars also have that sound which is why I don't pick on the (4) or (6) lines. The R62 brakes never released as fast as the R62/A cars or the redbirds so the rear cars always sounded as if they were being dragged when the train took off. The other cars had a sweeter sound when they took off.

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For me it's R33 originals,R33 redbirds ( 8806-9075), R62A and R62 in the rear. The original R33 (pre-mod) were the fastest cars in the IRT when they were maintained although the R62/62A cars could give them a good run for the money. The post-mod R33's could also fly but after the overhauls they were all governed down because they went faster than the signal system was designed for. That was also done to the R62/62A fleets. The only thing I have against the R62s is that whine when they take off. The Kawasaki R142A cars also have that sound which is why I don't pick on the (4) or (6) lines. The R62 brakes never released as fast as the R62/A cars or the redbirds so the rear cars always sounded as if they were being dragged when the train took off. The other cars had a sweeter sound when they took off.

wow you know its always interesting a fun to hear regular passengers talk about the redbirds because they were so like and so dam popular but to hear a t/o actually tell stories and a little train tech in response to the train you get another POV on the redbirds knowing they were popular among passengers as well as the t/o's

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