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South 4th St Station (10 Full Sized Pics)

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I've heard alot about S 4th St and the IND 2nd System but never seen any actual pics. These are possibly reposts but even if they are there's been a lot of new members joined since they were last posted. It's a thrill to see these skeleton pics of what could've been if not for the 1929 Stock Market Crash. Time to journey back in time about 80 years. Hope you like them

 

 

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/1929_IND_Second_System.jpg (click on pic to enlarge)

 

There's alot more info here and the spot where I got these 10 pics has 11 more.

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Where did you find those pics, I know I posted some a while back. After a while all pics of that station look the same.

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So the narrows bridge could have rail.... Epic find.

 

- A

 

Nah, tunnel. Its dated 1939, and the Verrazano debuted in November of 1964.

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Hmmmmm....... Tunnel would be very tricky there. Mostly sediment, so TBM is out & strong currents, so submerged sectional would be difficult. Also high marine traffic area.

 

I would love for those system expansions to be built, except have it over the bridge. Put the tracks above the upper deck. Under wouldn't work because some ships BARELY clear it as it is now. Over the side wouldn't work either because the structure wasn't designed to have heavy stuff cantilevered out.

 

- A

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Call me stupid for saying this (even I think I am being irrational), but I'm happy the IND 2nd system was never finished. Why? I hate the style of IND lines, and how indirect they are.

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So the narrows bridge could have rail.... Epic find.

 

- A

 

Thanks!

 

Where did you find those pics, I know I posted some a while back. After a while all pics of that station look the same.

 

I got them from here

 

The link is also in the first post. Maaaan...I look at that map and think how great the system would be if we had all those additions today. I can almost imagine taking a train from Kings Plaza to dang near my front door!

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Call me stupid for saying this (even I think I am being irrational), but I'm happy the IND 2nd system was never finished. Why? I hate the style of IND lines, and how indirect they are.

What do you mean?

BTW, Nice finds Teelow!

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Hmmmmm....... Tunnel would be very tricky there. Mostly sediment, so TBM is out & strong currents, so submerged sectional would be difficult. Also high marine traffic area.

 

I would love for those system expansions to be built, except have it over the bridge. Put the tracks above the upper deck. Under wouldn't work because some ships BARELY clear it as it is now. Over the side wouldn't work either because the structure wasn't designed to have heavy stuff cantilevered out.

 

- A

Tunnel would cost too much for sure.

Where would the tracks go once they crossed the bridge?

 

What do you mean?

BTW, Nice finds Teelow!

Thanks R160.

I'm wondering the same thing. The style of IND? How are they indirect???

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Seeing those pictures again really makes me want to call the MTA's special events coordinator and get myself a tour. I wish the second system was completed, but at the same time I have to think that if it was we wouldn't think anything special of it.

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Seeing those pictures again really makes me want to call the MTA's special events coordinator and get myself a tour. I wish the second system was completed, but at the same time I have to think that if it was we wouldn't think anything special of it.

 

Calling the MTA won't get you in to S4th Street.

Edited by INDman

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Its in a location that is top secret, but if you do you research and read between the line you can find it. Nycsubway.org and the links from that site are a great aid.

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Its in a location that is top secret, but if you do you research and read between the line you can find it. Nycsubway.org and the links from that site are a great aid.

 

 

i think I know where it is

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Its in a location that is top secret, but if you do you research and read between the line you can find it. Nycsubway.org and the links from that site are a great aid.

 

 

Top secret my ass. It's really easy to find and apparently get into.

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1. Are these tunnels still there today?

2. If so are they connected to the rest of the system?

3. If they are connected and in good shape, could they be used?

If all of the above are answered in the affirmative, this could be a new sight for the transit museum so to display all of the equipment and even more displays with the larger mezznaine area availible IMO. Anybody on board?(NYCT)

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The only thing that exists is this station shell. There are no track-ready tunnels that lead to it.

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Top secret my ass. It's really easy to find and apparently get into.

 

Oh I know it's not sectret, I'm just not going to tell people how to get into a place they should not be. Also getting to this area requiers walking on the bench wall for several feet and climbing a ladder which is not in the best condition. I would hate it for some one to gt back there and get hurt or killed then then have the (MTA) seal it up to keep people from getting back there.

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It's really easy to find and apparently get into.

 

It's actually sort of hard. There's a bunch of corridors you'll have to walk through.

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It's actually sort of hard. There's a bunch of corridors you'll have to walk through.

 

Are any of them locked or restricted?

 

By the way (BTW), please don't bring up in a thread that's a year old.:tup:

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