Locomotion69 Posted April 13, 2009 Share #201 Posted April 13, 2009 What do you mean? A person that sits in the token booth gets the same exact pension as a T/O. A person that sits or sleeps or claims to be praying inside the token booth.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOHopeful09 Posted April 13, 2009 Share #202 Posted April 13, 2009 25/55 is the rule. 25 years of work, and at least 55 years of age and you can retire and get 50% of your normal pay. every additional year you work that % goes up by I think 1.5% (T/O's correct me if I'm wrong). Whether that's "physically taxing" is up to you decide...you ready to walk tracks, lift heavy coupler adapters, hook down stop arms, climb onto trains from the roadbed, and deal with the public? i mean that for instance trades people (plumbers, electricians, etc.) are "physically taxing" titles which get additional percentage taken out of their paychecks (thus can retire after only 25 years of service). i was just wondering if T/Os have the same option on their pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 13, 2009 Share #203 Posted April 13, 2009 i mean that for instance trades people (plumbers, electricians, etc.) are "physically taxing" titles which get additional percentage taken out of their paychecks (thus can retire after only 25 years of service). i was just wondering if T/Os have the same option on their pensions. No we are all civil servants under a tier 4 pension plan. According to the government being a T/O and breathing in all of the toxic stuff everyday isn't harmful or stressful, that's why we can't get either 20 and out or 25/50. I used a clerk as an example because that is one of the easiest jobs and T/O is one of the most stressful with the most responsibility but both titles have the exact same pension plan. 25/55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted April 13, 2009 Share #204 Posted April 13, 2009 No we are all civil servants under a tier 4 pension plan. According to the government being a T/O and breathing in all of the toxic stuff everyday isn't harmful or stressful, that's why we can't get either 20 and out or 25/50. I used a clerk as an example because that is one of the easiest jobs and T/O is one of the most stressful with the most responsibility but both titles have the exact same pension plan. 25/55 If you think about it,it is similar to what firemen breathe in,they have the 20 yr pension as well as 3/4 disability pension. T/O's don't wear respirators,etc like firemen do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahon Posted April 13, 2009 Share #205 Posted April 13, 2009 What happens if you start at age 40? You have to retire at age 65 to get full pension (50% of normal pay)? You have to walk tracks as a train operator? -------------------------------------------------------------------- 25/55 is the rule. 25 years of work, and at least 55 years of age and you can retire and get 50% of your normal pay. every additional year you work that % goes up by I think 1.5% (T/O's correct me if I'm wrong). Whether that's "physically taxing" is up to you decide...you ready to walk tracks, lift heavy coupler adapters, hook down stop arms, climb onto trains from the roadbed, and deal with the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 13, 2009 Share #206 Posted April 13, 2009 What happens if you start at age 40? You have to retire at age 65 to get full pension (50% of normal pay)? You have to walk tracks as a train operator? Yes to get the full pension you must complete 25 years of service with the TA. It doesn't matter what your age is. Yes T/O's walk the tracks in all weather and different conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 13, 2009 Share #207 Posted April 13, 2009 Like Jah's signature says "This is a job NOT a hobby!". Can't expect this job to be easy or a breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 13, 2009 Share #208 Posted April 13, 2009 Like Jah's signature says "This is a job NOT a hobby!". Can't expect this job to be easy or a breeze. It's true. But once you get enough seniority you can pick jobs that you will only have to walk the tracks if something goes wrong. You can get your train right off of the stand for all of your trips. When you're new you work all jobs so you have to get put ins, lay up trains, work the yards, plus if something goes wrong on the road you have to investigate regardless of train traffic on adjacent tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOHopeful09 Posted April 14, 2009 Share #209 Posted April 14, 2009 thank you for the info everyone. what exactly "walking the tracks" means?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 14, 2009 Share #210 Posted April 14, 2009 thank you for the info everyone. what exactly "walking the tracks" means?? um....walking the tracks..literally. You sure you want to apply for this job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 14, 2009 Share #211 Posted April 14, 2009 thank you for the info everyone. what exactly "walking the tracks" means?? Exactly what it says. You will have to walk along the tracks to perform some parts of your job, like getting a train out of a yard, returning after laying one up in a yard, or inspecting your train. You will have to walk underground tracks in the tunnel, tracks at grade level, and elevated tracks in all kinds of weather, with train traffic coming, and have to know flagging and other safety procedures to do it right...they will train you in all of this once you start if you get (and take) the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted April 14, 2009 Share #212 Posted April 14, 2009 Just like you experance Brakes in Emergency on the WillyB on a rainy and windy night as a Train Operator you still must walk around that train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 14, 2009 Share #213 Posted April 14, 2009 Just like you experance Brakes in Emergency on the WillyB on a rainy and windy night as a Train Operator you still must walk around that train. that happen to your train or are you just giving an example? (wonders if there's an interesting story behind this post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted April 14, 2009 Share #214 Posted April 14, 2009 No it didn't happen to me but lots of other especially on the Manhattan Bridge but Willy B its harder to walk around not much clearance. If the wind hits that tripping device the wrong way you hear that chow and its a sinking feeling in your stomach knowing you have to walk the bridge, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 14, 2009 Share #215 Posted April 14, 2009 No it didn't happen to me but lots of other especially on the Manhattan Bridge but Willy B its harder to walk around not much clearance. If the wind hits that tripping device the wrong way you hear that chow and its a sinking feeling in your stomach knowing you have to walk the bridge, There is clearance on the Willy B? I could have sworn all the catwalks had the no clearance strip on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted April 14, 2009 Share #216 Posted April 14, 2009 Yeah not really your clearance is between the cars of your train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 14, 2009 Share #217 Posted April 14, 2009 Sounds like a good time, I guess the only thing better would be the wind and rain in the middle of the night. Are the trips really that sensitive that wind activates them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 14, 2009 Share #218 Posted April 14, 2009 Yeah not really your clearance is between the cars of your train. *note to self: lose a few pounds or don't pick the * :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted April 14, 2009 Share #219 Posted April 14, 2009 The odds are good a train will not be tripped but it happens. Hey Y2J I use to say the same thing about the but I did it for 2 picks and thinking about a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 14, 2009 Share #220 Posted April 14, 2009 The odds are good a train will not be tripped but it happens. Hey Y2J I use to say the same thing about the but I did it for 2 picks and thinking about a 3rd.If you pick the we might bump into each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 14, 2009 Share #221 Posted April 14, 2009 Actually the line looks like it'd be good to work. It's grown on me over the years. All the nice above ground views, lots of history along the line to look at, and decent run times. Sure there's timers but there's timers everywhere. Plus as DOB said, it's cool looking behind you and seeing the back of your train rounding a curve..must be cool at the Crescent St. curve. Not to mention there are plenty of places to eat around Chambers and Parsons. Not sure about Broad St. (I'd imagine it is too) because I haven't gotten out around there in quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted April 14, 2009 Share #222 Posted April 14, 2009 Nope Not picking the this pick too much work. When I worked it the jobs were sweet. I'll pick the if I go back. Don't know what I'm doing for the pick yet just looking at lots of options that sound good but can only pick one. I am also no longer picking jobs on the Lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAveExp5 Posted April 14, 2009 Share #223 Posted April 14, 2009 what safety devices do they give Train Operators when it comes to walking on the tracks? do they give you rat repellant for the underground tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 14, 2009 Share #224 Posted April 14, 2009 They have there safety vest and a flashlight. If you have to walk around your train on the main line, RCC should also alert trains in the area that your on the tracks. Sometimes T/Os will walk from a station to the yard (Union Turnpike to Jamaica Yard) and according to the rules, when doing this they don't need flagging protection. Also, why would you need rat replant when you have a shoe slipper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAveExp5 Posted April 14, 2009 Share #225 Posted April 14, 2009 nothing to protect you from falling through? im rather skinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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