kaback9 Posted February 14, 2009 Share #1 Posted February 14, 2009 With this being Presidents day weekend, Transit ran 3 extra getaway trains today, one from Newark Penn and two from New York Penn. Here are the three NYP sets: http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1489586 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1489600 Newark Set: http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1489608 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1489611 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1489612 Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share #2 Posted February 14, 2009 Here is a shot of one of the sets deadheading back. http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1489598 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 14, 2009 Share #3 Posted February 14, 2009 Nice! Why is the catenary so high there? Do they run freight on the line? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted February 14, 2009 Yup, The Southern Secondary Breaks off there to Lakewood and Lakehurst along with Toms River. SA 31 is the freight train. On the coast line: http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1444811 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1444831 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1444833 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1444844 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1469321 On the Southern: http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1476073 http://kaback9.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1476085 Enjoy! and those poles on the Southern never held a wires for trains they are strictly Power lines just over the ROW. One of NJT's proposed MOM routes use the line from Red Bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 14, 2009 Share #5 Posted February 14, 2009 Nice. They should re-electrify! - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted February 14, 2009 It never was electrified and the poles don't follow the ROW all the way to the end, that line actually goes all the way to Winslow Junction and Atlantic City though if it was rebuilt. However thats not part of NJT's proposed MOM line. When its built it will only go as far as Lakehurst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted February 14, 2009 Share #7 Posted February 14, 2009 That MOM line would do me so good. Insted of going a full half hour all the way to Matawan, I could catch the train 15 mins away at Howell. (I live in Freehold.) And it's not far from my school (Colts Neck). Colts Neck, Howell, Freehold, Marlboro, and Lakehurst would get so much service and fast service to. If those pole stay there, we can electrify them no problem and get ALP-46s down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted February 15, 2009 No you can't you would need an entirely different set up to electrify the line, the poles are way to high above the locomotives to begin, not to mention they would probably want to use whats used in Red Bank on the NJCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 15, 2009 Share #9 Posted February 15, 2009 Any re-activation or expansion of service is all most guaranteed to have a goal of electrification at the least, likely aiming to electrify before rev runs begin. It just makes sense. The purchase of more electric, and adding a fleet of dual mode locomotives is completely in line with a multi-phase electrification plan, which will eventually phase out most of the diesels aside from the :ac:, :pvl: and :rvl: which would just cost way too much. Oddly enough those 3 lines are in the 3 different divisions. We all know that regular diesel pax service on (NJT) rails will some day come to an end. It may be 20 years or 30 years or maybe a bit longer, but it will happen, and everything so far has fallen into place in line with this, locomotive service life-span, the order of more multilevels and now he call for replacing (and perhaps expanding) the EMU fleet, the order of the alp-46a, the request for a dual power diesel/cat locomotive in larger numbers than they have diesels now, budgetary actions studying the ROW for the electrical supply systems to be installed etc etc. Freight diesel is really a different realm, and perhaps one day all freight will be electric, but for the time being diesel rules those rails. B) - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted February 15, 2009 MOM, West Trenton and the Lackawanna cut off projects along with the Northern Branch are not even talking about electrification. NJT will run diesel trains to Newark and Hoboken on these routes, I'm sure that the dual modes will be used on some trains on these future routes to go to NYP and ARC, however there are no plans to electrify those routes at this time. I would love an electrified MOM since they could just continue of the :nec: or :njc: depending on which alternative is chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 15, 2009 Share #11 Posted February 15, 2009 MOM, West Trenton and the Lackawanna cut off projects along with the Northern Branch are not even talking about electrification. NJT will run diesel trains to Newark and Hoboken on these routes, I'm sure that the dual modes will be used on some trains on these future routes to go to NYP and ARC, however there are no plans to electrify those routes at this time. I would love an electrified MOM since they could just continue of the :nec: or :njc: depending on which alternative is chosen. Well, that's why i said 20 or 30 years or more, first thing's first then you look into electrification. One sure way to remove a chunk of hugely variable operating costs from (NJT) is to remove the need to purchase large quantities of diesel for the locomotives. We all know it will just get more expensive into the future, and they can only raise fares so much. Rather than cut service on diesel lines, just electrify. It's an option that has large upfront cost but minimal long term cost. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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