via White Plains Road Posted February 28, 2009 Share #26 Posted February 28, 2009 75-footers can run only on the and up to Broadway-Junction... No 75-footers can go on the ... 75ft cars can't run on the Jamaica/Myrtle Avenue Lines @ all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 28, 2009 Share #27 Posted February 28, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted February 28, 2009 Share #28 Posted February 28, 2009 Well, matted33 and I proved it... Did you see how old was that pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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INDman Posted February 28, 2009 Share #30 Posted February 28, 2009 Did you see how old was that pic? Show me what has changed from Court Street On the to Mertopolitan Ave. on the since the 70's, nothing has. As an operational rule 75' cars do not run on the Eastern Division, they can how ever run there. There are clearence issues with two 75' car trains passing each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 5, 2009 Share #31 Posted March 5, 2009 Not true, as stated before they can run the whole line and the but they can't make the turn at Crecent St.Proof: Exactly... however 2 75 footers cannot run side by side on those tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted March 5, 2009 Share #32 Posted March 5, 2009 IIRC, the precise locations which 75 foot cars cannot pass is Crescent. Two 75 foot trains cannot pass each other on the approach to the williamsburg bridge. There is also a place on the L with a problem, but I forget where that is. I think it is between Montrose and Morgan, but don't fully recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Art Vandelay Posted March 5, 2009 Share #34 Posted March 5, 2009 If two R44s were to pass on the approach to the Williamsburg bridge, they would likely knock each other off the structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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7LineFan Posted March 5, 2009 Share #36 Posted March 5, 2009 Oh well, poor 75-footers... Well, guess the 75-footers may have to do it precise on the Eastern Division... Um, what Art is saying is that they can't do it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted March 5, 2009 Share #37 Posted March 5, 2009 Um, what Art is saying is that they can't do it at all. Can't do what? They can go to Metropolitan Ave on the and to B'way Junction on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted March 5, 2009 Share #38 Posted March 5, 2009 Can't do what? They can go to Metropolitan Ave on the and to B'way Junction on the . Art is saying that they can't pass each other on the Willy B as they would knock each other off. If they can't pass at all they can't do it precisely. Not saying that they can't run the line on their own though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Av/Fulton Exp Posted March 5, 2009 Share #39 Posted March 5, 2009 well the lines are BMT too and theyre almost 75 ft down... i say keep all 75 footers on the IND's since their tunnels and all are large enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share #40 Posted March 5, 2009 well the lines are BMT too and theyre almost 75 ft down... i say keep all 75 footers on the IND's since their tunnels and all are large enough No. It's not the entire BMT division. Its only the BMT Eastern lines!! Just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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7LineFan Posted March 6, 2009 Share #42 Posted March 6, 2009 Well, can if they still run by each other on the Local Tracks, ! Well, they could if they run by each other on the Loacl Track... The 75-footers can't reach or even cover the Express tracks like that... On the Willy B there are only two tracks, side by side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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INDman Posted March 6, 2009 Share #44 Posted March 6, 2009 2 75' car trains can't pass each other from Essex St. to Marcy Ave. because the curves coming on and off the bridge are too tight. They car go over the bridge as long as another train is not coming the other way. This is why they don't use 75' cars on the . Other then that, they can run to Metropolitan Ave on the and Bway Junction on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted March 6, 2009 Share #45 Posted March 6, 2009 75ft. footer would make the and lines slower because the curve @ Crescent St. is a 10 mph limit with a 60 footer. With a 75 footer limit would have to lowered to 5 mph and two trains can't pass the curve at the same time ,therefore slowing down service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted March 6, 2009 Share #46 Posted March 6, 2009 How could the 75 footers not fit? It is absurd?!? 2 75' car trains can't pass each other from Essex St. to Marcy Ave. because the curves coming on and off the bridge are too tight. They can go over the bridge as long as another train is not coming the other way. This is why they don't use 75' cars on the . Other than that, they can run to Metropolitan Ave on the and Bway Junction on the . That's what I was trying to say. Thank you, matted33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted March 6, 2009 Share #47 Posted March 6, 2009 75 ft cars may be troublesome for some lines, but does very well in most. Look at the A, D, F, G, N(formerly), Q, and R lines. They had no unloading problems. Rather, people actually enjoyed having more seats. u forgot some other lines: (* * Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rockaway Park Shuttle, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted March 6, 2009 Share #48 Posted March 6, 2009 u forgot some other lines: (* * Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rockaway Park Shuttle, lol. The difference is that 75' cars have been cleared to run on those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted March 6, 2009 Share #49 Posted March 6, 2009 This is obviously confusing some more than it ever should so here is a simple picture I drew in under a minute that shows what happens when two 75 footers take a sharp curve in opposite directions at the same time on parallel tracks: Individually, each car can make the turn by itself if there is nothing there. When there is a train there, big problems. Got it? Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 6, 2009 Share #50 Posted March 6, 2009 This is obviously confusing some more than it ever should so here is a simple picture I drew in under a minute that shows what happens when two 75 footers take a sharp curve in opposite directions at the same time on parallel tracks: Individually, each car can make the turn by itself if there is nothing there. When there is a train there, big problems. Got it? Good. God bless you lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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