MTR Admiralty Posted March 2, 2009 Share #26 Posted March 2, 2009 The E would be OK with R46 as off-hour trains, or occasional rush-hour trains. They had them almost exclusively on the E from 1980-1990, the dwell argument surfaced in 1990, didn't hear about it before then. I think 75 footers work well off hours and 60 footers better rush hours, however, since the E is not a long route, I don't think the 75 footer's advantage of more seats is necessary. I don't think the V needs 46s, a waste IMO. I like R44/R46/R68 on the A, F, D, Q, R and other lines where people have a better chance of getting a seat non-peak hours than they do on an R160, a car with fewer seats than the R40. The A and F will likely run R179s, 75 footers, but will they have 5 doors per cars and parallel seats? Will they have more seats? If they have 5 doors per car, the E may get them as well. -Yes, if the E were to run R46s, the best time will be during off hours. As crowding would not be a major issue. Many typical E riders favour the R46s and the R160s over the R32s or the R42s. -Bare in mind, that the two hundred something car order is just ONE order. It is only enough to replace the R44s on the A line. There are no optional orders yet to go on the others lines. In all likelihood, the A and the H will be the ones to use the R179. The E will continue to use R160s and the F will run R46s and R160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 2, 2009 Share #27 Posted March 2, 2009 -Yes, if the E were to run R46s, the best time will be during off hours. As crowding would not be a major issue. Many typical E riders favour the R46s and the R160s over the R32s or the R42s.-Bare in mind, that the two hundred something car order is just ONE order. It is only enough to replace the R44s on the A line. There are no optional orders yet to go on the others lines. In all likelihood, the A and the H will be the ones to use the R179. The E will continue to use R160s and the F will run R46s and R160s. Actually when the R-160A-2 ran on the in December several customers loved them....even two gentlemen had a lil disagreement thinking the F.I.N.D were on the IRT ....idk where ppl think that customers love the R-46's on the ....but I'm not starting a war or anything like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 2, 2009 Share #28 Posted March 2, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 3.4; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) I know this is a little off topic, but how long is the R179 gonna be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 2, 2009 Share #29 Posted March 2, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 3.4; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) I know this is a little off topic, but how long is the R179 gonna be Probably 75ft...but not sure excatly.....we'll see when they a draw up on them or in testing mode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 2, 2009 Share #30 Posted March 2, 2009 Actually when the R-160A-2 ran on the in December several customers loved them....even two gentlemen had a lil disagreement thinking the F.I.N.D were on the IRT ....idk where ppl think that customers love the R-46's on the ....but I'm not starting a war or anything like that! Well I am not saying that they LOVE the R46s, they simply favour them over the older series. As in "oh those cars are better than these guys". Well yeah, the typical E passenger certainly loves the R160As. Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 3.4; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) I know this is a little off topic, but how long is the R179 gonna be 75 feet, that is definite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted March 3, 2009 Share #31 Posted March 3, 2009 The final length has yet to be decided. All I can say is, some of the designs I have seen are quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 3, 2009 Share #32 Posted March 3, 2009 Well my speculation tells me that, when more R160s come in, the Mods will go to 207th to replace the slants. Some of the R42s will follow suit. When the slants are gone, Jamaica should be R32, R46, R160. That said, the Mods will start retiring. The R42s will be going next. As this is happening, the Jamaica R32s will be pushed off to 207 to retire the Mods/R42s. So at the very end, Jamaica will be R46 and R160.The fleet composition will be like this: E- Exclusively R160 F- R160 and R46 G- R46 R- R46 V- R46 do not forget that the will be transferred to the Coney Island and no longer use R46s. those cars are forbidden to run on the because of the reduced amount of doors and heavy usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMan Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share #33 Posted March 3, 2009 Do you know where all the extra R46's will go after the is transferred to the CI yard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 4, 2009 Share #34 Posted March 4, 2009 do not forget that the will be transferred to the Coney Island and no longer use R46s. those cars are forbidden to run on the because of the reduced amount of doors and heavy usage. -The G transfer will happen, but not anytime soon. -The R46s are NOT forbidden to run on the E. Once in a while, the R46 appears on the E. The only fault is, it doesn't have enough doors. Do you know where all the extra R46's will go after the is transferred to the CI yard? Perhaps into Pitkin/207. The F will receive R160s and donates 1/3 of its current R46s to the R. Extraneous sets will have to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted March 4, 2009 Share #35 Posted March 4, 2009 those cars are forbidden to run on the because of the reduced amount of doors and heavy usage. Let's not start this forbidden nonsense again.. The is based out of Jamaica which uses R46s. Every once in a blue moon, there's a couple of sets out on the . Of course not during the rush, but it does happens to appear on the line before/after the rush, and during the weekends. Just this past summer, when the weekend G.O. sent (G)'s out to C.I, the ran R32s mostly, the ran R46s, and the ran everything it had. 46s on the does happen, so get your facts right before stating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 4, 2009 Share #36 Posted March 4, 2009 Do you know where all the extra R46's will go after the is transferred to the CI yard? they will probably go to Pitkin and the to retire the R40s and R42s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 4, 2009 Share #37 Posted March 4, 2009 Let's not start this forbidden nonsense again.. The is based out of Jamaica which uses R46s. Every once in a blue moon, there's a couple of sets out on the . Of course not during the rush, but it does happens to appear on the line before/after the rush, and during the weekends. Just this past summer, when the weekend G.O. sent (G)'s out to C.I, the ran R32s mostly, the ran R46s, and the ran everything it had. 46s on the does happen, so get your facts right before stating them. The "forbidden" argument is plain nonsensical and childish. The R46s are not banned or forbidden to run on certain Div B (Non-East) lines. IMO, this argument was used because he hates R46s or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 4, 2009 Share #38 Posted March 4, 2009 who hates the R46s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 4, 2009 Share #39 Posted March 4, 2009 who hates the R46s? Well, why do you claim that the R46s are forbidden from running on the E then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 5, 2009 Share #40 Posted March 5, 2009 Well, why do you claim that the R46s are forbidden from running on the E then? someone on youtube posted a comment on a video of an R46 train saying that they were not allowed to run on that line because of the reduced amount of doors and i felt it made sense because the is among the most heavily used "B" Division lines. i would not care if i saw an R46 on that line. in fact, i have a video of one taken last summer and it proves the theory that the reduced amount of doors on an eight-car train increases the amount of time it spends at each station. i hate the R44s, not the R46s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 5, 2009 Share #41 Posted March 5, 2009 I've ridden an R46 . Was a nice ride, I have to admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 5, 2009 Share #42 Posted March 5, 2009 Well my speculation tells me that, when more R160s come in, the Mods will go to 207th to replace the slants. Some of the R42s will follow suit. When the slants are gone, Jamaica should be R32, R46, R160. That said, the Mods will start retiring. The R42s will be going next. As this is happening, the Jamaica R32s will be pushed off to 207 to retire the Mods/R42s. So at the very end, Jamaica will be R46 and R160.The fleet composition will be like this: E- Exclusively R160 F- R160 and R46 G- R46 R- R46 V- R46 I think that would happen, But there are some R42's that are retired already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 5, 2009 Share #43 Posted March 5, 2009 someone on youtube posted a comment on a video of an R46 train saying that they were not allowed to run on that line because of the reduced amount of doors and i felt it made sense because the is among the most heavily used "B" Division lines. i would not care if i saw an R46 on that line. in fact, i have a video of one taken last summer and it proves the theory that the reduced amount of doors on an eight-car train increases the amount of time it spends at each station. i hate the R44s, not the R46s. SOMEBODY said, but do you know this person? Is he a worker? Could he be bs-ing? The priority is to put the 60 footers on the E because they have more doors to work with those crowds. Once in a while though a R46 shows up because there's probably a shortage of 60 footers and therefore would require a set of R46s to serve on the E. So, they are therefore not banished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 5, 2009 Share #44 Posted March 5, 2009 I think that would happen, But there are some R42's that are retired already That is true, the CI Rebuilds, right? A few of the MKs are retired too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 5, 2009 Share #45 Posted March 5, 2009 That is true, the CI Rebuilds, right? A few of the MKs are retired too. all 110 Coney Island R42s were retired in summer-fall 2007. 10 cars were not rebuilt and two are in the U.S. Department of Transportation facility in Colorado. the eight cars involved in that Chambers Street crash in November 2007 were retired even though they did not suffer a lot of damage. recently, 12 MK R42s were taken out of service for scrapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted March 5, 2009 Share #46 Posted March 5, 2009 The CI rebuilt R42s were retired for the most part in early 2008. The pair sent to FRA test facilities were sent back not too long after their tests were performed. I believe they were later overhauled by MK, and are likely still in service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 5, 2009 Share #47 Posted March 5, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMan Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share #48 Posted March 5, 2009 I wonder if there will be R46's on the when some of them are transferred to Pitkin Yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Av/Fulton Exp Posted March 5, 2009 Share #49 Posted March 5, 2009 i saw some R40m's on the & did they already get rid of em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbirdbassist Posted March 6, 2009 Share #50 Posted March 6, 2009 I rode an R32 E this morning and was in shock. Didn't expect to see one. I hadn't ridden one in about two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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