BSmith Posted March 25, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 25, 2009 The R40. So what do you guys think of them?? I thought they were landmark trains, a forward-looking, interesting design failure. I say they are landmark because they brought: large (VERY large) colored signs to the front of the train slight curvature to the sides larger destination roll signs larger side and door windows (spoiled on the doors in the rebuild)--increasing visibility out of the train and a biggie, air-conditioning starting with (I believe) 4370 (please check, I may be wrong on this) Glaring design problems were the slants providing unsafe distance between cars, stealing interior space, making the operator feel like he was in a fishbowl, no protection between cars so they had several add-ons during their lives, seats are too short in the back, lots of sliding around. They did mark a new design direction, and the 40Ms fixed some of the glaring errors, but not all. Debuted on the F line, 1968. Will probably have served the A line last sometime this year. Ran on F, E, first, then pretty much all of the B-division lines. Not sure about the Canarsie line, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 25, 2009 Share #2 Posted March 25, 2009 The only thing I like about them are their non-faulty A/C. Otherwise, they have to be one of the worse cars built. Their benches are just intolerable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 25, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 25, 2009 the R40s did run on the Canarsie Line until 2001. i remember in 2003, i saw a lone R40 car at the Avenue X yard with destination signs waiting to be scrapped (i do not remember the number). the only lines R40s did not run on were the . R40s are ugly in appearance, but they are a force to be reckoned with when it comes to speed, air-conditoning, and view. i commonly refer to them as "speed-demons." i miss them on the a lot. like i said before, the ( should have kept its R40s while R68/68As should have gone to the . that way, everyone wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted March 25, 2009 Share #4 Posted March 25, 2009 The R40 Slants are the next unique car after the Redbirds. I haven't rode them much throughout my life but all the times I did - it was awesome. (When they ran on the , and now the ) Like the OP said, all the features contributed to their greatness. I love the fact that they make so much noise over their propulsion systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 26, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 26, 2009 The only thing I like about them are their non-faulty A/C. Otherwise, they have to be one of the worse cars built. Their benches are just intolerable... I don't agree about the other stuff, but in summer if you want a cool ride catch an R40 for sure. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 26, 2009 Share #6 Posted March 26, 2009 The Slant are great, they move fast, got a RFW, seats were great and they should have stayed on the til their retirement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted March 26, 2009 Share #7 Posted March 26, 2009 I will miss the slants. They would fly down the Brighton express especially on that hill after Avenue H. They also have a unique design too. They are one of my favorite cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted March 26, 2009 Share #8 Posted March 26, 2009 the only lines R40s did not run on were the Did they actually run on the ? As for the Slants, I really like(d) them because of their unique design. Not so much for their uncomfortable seating, as well as the RFW which was kind of awkwardly shaped and way too small (horizontally, not vertically) in comparison to the RFW of the R32/38/40M/42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jashawn R. Posted March 26, 2009 Share #9 Posted March 26, 2009 Personally, Ive only have rode the slants a few times between 145 and Bedford Park Plvd on the (. They gave a great RFW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted March 26, 2009 Share #10 Posted March 26, 2009 the R40s did run on the Canarsie Line until 2001. i remember in 2003, i saw a lone R40 car at the Avenue X yard with destination signs waiting to be scrapped (i do not remember the number). the only lines R40s did not run on were the . R40 slants have ran on the (only happened once or twice) and lines.the slant that was on the was a put-in,but it ran on the line.the line started in dec 2001,but 3 months before they used R40 cars to test out the line.don't remember if they ever on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted March 26, 2009 Share #11 Posted March 26, 2009 Did they actually run on the ? Yes,they have ran on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r30redbird Posted March 26, 2009 Share #12 Posted March 26, 2009 I to think they are very interesting cars, and great air con ive been told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted March 26, 2009 Share #13 Posted March 26, 2009 The slants are very interesting cars and one of the fastest I might add. They would always speed up along the ( when I was a child! They have working A/Cs on every slant that I have been on (that's a LOT!). However, the earlier slants without the pantograph gates posed a SERIOUS risk to the public. They had to lock up the doors in the event a dumb passenger might want to cross over during a turn. Very unique and formerly VERY dangerous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 26, 2009 Share #14 Posted March 26, 2009 Summer 2008 was very hot on some days, especially the day i went ot buy a new pair of crocs up on the west side. Took the ( there and back from midtown. Cooled my woman & i down enough to continue the planned activities that day. Also, my trip out to brighton beach was made easier by the comfort level made possible by the AC. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #15 Posted March 27, 2009 The R40s have the best A/C in the system! 10x better than the R142-R160 A/Cs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted March 27, 2009 Share #16 Posted March 27, 2009 The R40s have the best A/C in the system! 10x better than the R142-R160 A/Cs. That's only true because the NTTs have some sort of technology that's supposed to warm up or cool down the temperature at a specific temperature. The R40s just warm or cool adjustingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted March 27, 2009 Share #17 Posted March 27, 2009 The R40s were also kid friendly too with that low RFW. Also the side windows are low too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 27, 2009 Share #18 Posted March 27, 2009 R40 slants have ran on the (only happened once or twice) and lines.the slant that was on the was a put-in,but it ran on the line.the line started in dec 2001,but 3 months before they used R40 cars to test out the line.don't remember if they ever on the line. the never used R40s and there was a photo of an R40 marked for the , but it never actually ran in revenue service. how can R40s run on the if they were never maintained at ENY. R40s were maintained at Rockaway Yard for the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSmith Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted March 27, 2009 the never used R40s and there was a photo of an R40 marked for the , but it never actually ran in revenue service. how can R40s run on the if they were never maintained at ENY. R40s were maintained at Rockaway Yard for the . The used slants pretty recently, there's a pic of one somewhere on the net. Also in the 1970s the ran slants from time to time. Although in the 1970s, it was called the GG. The , not sure? Possibly, but not sure. The is a recent line, and as far as I know has used nothing but R46s. Maybe it is the only Jamaica line that has used nothing but R46s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted March 27, 2009 Share #20 Posted March 27, 2009 the never used R40s and there was a photo of an R40 marked for the , but it never actually ran in revenue service. how can R40s run on the if they were never maintained at ENY. R40s were maintained at Rockaway Yard for the . Pre-GOH,the R40 were on the and for a time.post GOH,there was one case where a train of R40's was used as an train,someone from subchat posted a pic of that. I think it was R32 and R40 slant cars were used to test out the line. Rockway (Carnarsie) yard is a storage yard,the main yard/shop for the ED is ENY.the R40 slants ran on the line,but that was also rare.i still remember that one day in spring '01,i was waiting for a to go to school.to my surprise,an slant shows up.took it to Norwood Av,only time i'v seen a slant on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 27, 2009 Share #21 Posted March 27, 2009 The used slants pretty recently, there's a pic of one somewhere on the net. Also in the 1970s the ran slants from time to time. Although in the 1970s, it was called the GG. The , not sure? Possibly, but not sure. The is a recent line, and as far as I know has used nothing but R46s. Maybe it is the only Jamaica line that has used nothing but R46s. there is a photo of an R40 marked for the taken in April 2006, but that was actually an R40 train that had the wrong roll sign. i remember seeing that in person when the ran on the Brighton Line to replace the . R40M/42s ran on the GG, but i never saw a slant there, nor did i ever see one of the <R>. R40s could not run on the because Jamaica does not use those cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 27, 2009 Share #22 Posted March 27, 2009 there is a photo of an R40 marked for the taken in April 2006, but that was actually an R40 train that had the wrong roll sign. i remember seeing that in person when the ran on the Brighton Line to replace the . R40M/42s ran on the GG, but i never saw a slant there, nor did i ever see one of the <R>. R40s could not run on the because Jamaica does not use those cars. People are always messing with those. I saw a on a train last summer. Frickin foamers. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #23 Posted March 27, 2009 People are always messing with those. I saw a on a train last summer. Frickin foamers. - A Good point, when I was at Howard Beach, and when the R38 were still running, I saw a dude with a metal bar, messing with the signs like from Queensboro Plaza to West 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 28, 2009 Share #24 Posted March 28, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 28, 2009 Share #25 Posted March 28, 2009 Sorry to spoil your spirit, but, changing signs is PLAIN WRONG. It's great to see what terminals or lines are printed, but doing this when a train is in service will mess up the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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