Dasglion Posted March 27, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 27, 2009 The average NYCS line (at least trunk lines) has 3 services usualy 2 locals and one express. Since the West Side has both the Seventh/Broadway Ave. and the Eighth Ave. lines (both of which are 3 service trunk lines) i would asume that the second avenue line would also get at least one aditional service to act as a express service. Mabey they will bring back the K service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted March 27, 2009 The does not have enough money, and it is going to be built as 2-track, but if it was, I'll have the as express, with tail tracks to the Bronx, and as local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted March 27, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 27, 2009 I highly doubt the 2nd Avenue Line will have any express tracks. I guess the tracks will lead from when the and intersect each other and the rest with have cross over inb/w certain stations, but we'll see what happens when the entire is built! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #4 Posted March 27, 2009 There would be no K train since there wouldn't be enough tracks. The 2nd Avenue Line south of 63rd St is only 2 tracks while north of 63rd St is 4 tracks with all local stops. Also, the 2nd Avenue line would debut with the Q train from 63rd St to 125th St. The T train would come later. Either way, T train is somewhat of an express comparing to the other lines since every station is apart by more than 15 streets, while an average express station is apart by 10 streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted March 27, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 27, 2009 The average NYCS line (at least trunk lines) has 3 services usualy 2 locals and one express. Since the West Side has both the Seventh/Broadway Ave. and the Eighth Ave. lines (both of which are 3 service trunk lines) i would asume that the second avenue line would also get at least one aditional service to act as a express service. Mabey they will bring back the K service. Express service on the is not needed because the stations are so far apart from each other. I think those tracks are just to relieve congestion and maybe allow work trains to travel faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #6 Posted March 27, 2009 There would be no K train since there wouldn't be enough tracks. The 2nd Avenue Line south of 63rd St is only 2 tracks while north of 63rd St is 4 tracks with all local stops. Also, the 2nd Avenue line would debut with the Q train from 63rd St to 125th St. The T train would come later. Either way, T train is somewhat of an express comparing to the other lines since every station is apart by more than 15 streets, while an average express station is apart by 10 streets. Where do you hear this, the SAS is all 2-track except for a few layups, and the (Q)'s debut on the SAS, is to 96th St, in 2014 or 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #7 Posted March 27, 2009 Express service on the is not needed because the stations are so far apart from each other. I think those tracks are just to relieve congestion and maybe allow work trains to travel faster. Its main purpose is to relieve the Lexington Line. Where do you hear this, the SAS is all 2-track except for a few layups, and the 's debut on the SAS, is to 96th St, in 2014 or 2015. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 27, 2009 Share #8 Posted March 27, 2009 Are any structural provisions planned to make it "able" to have four tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #9 Posted March 27, 2009 while an average express station is apart by 10 streets. Uh, no not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted March 27, 2009 Share #10 Posted March 27, 2009 Are any structural provisions planned to make it "able" to have four tracks? No. According to my inside source (yay! I have an inside source) it was originally planed as a 3 track line but that the MTA is cutting it down to two tracks. So the will be local only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #11 Posted March 27, 2009 My bad. It's okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasglion Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted March 27, 2009 I mean i understand it is only 2 track but Im thinking about in like 25 years. The lexington Avenue line can not handle all of the East side forever. Not even with the the two-track second ave line helping it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #13 Posted March 27, 2009 I mean i understand it is only 2 track but Im thinking about in like 25 years. The lexington Avenue line can not handle all of the East side forever. Not even with the the two-track second ave line helping it Don't worry, in 25 years, there's gonna be either more technology, or the goes crazy, and start raizing fares, and no one rides it, and they go bye-bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #14 Posted March 27, 2009 Don't worry, in 25 years, there's gonna be either more technology, or the goes crazy, and start raizing fares, and no one rides it, and they go bye-bye. Who needs Lexington when they can have 2nd Avenue? 2 expresses with stations apart by 10 streets vs 1 local with stations apart by more than 15 streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasglion Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted March 27, 2009 Don't worry, in 25 years, there's gonna be either more technology, or the goes crazy, and start raizing fares, and no one rides it, and they go bye-bye. New York City can not operate without the subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted March 27, 2009 Share #16 Posted March 27, 2009 New York City can not operate without the subway. True, but if this ecnomic crisis never ends, they can't operate without money, and we can't pay for outrageous fare hikes, just like we can't pay for Yankees tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted March 28, 2009 Share #17 Posted March 28, 2009 2 expresses with stations apart by 10 streets :mad: Besides in the very low parts of manhattan, THERE ARE NO EXPRESS TRAINS THAT STOP EVERY TEN BLOCKS. I've said this before on this thread and you've obviously had ignored it or not read it. Look at a subway map. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 28, 2009 Share #18 Posted March 28, 2009 :mad: Besides in the very low parts of manhattan, THERE ARE NO EXPRESS TRAINS THAT STOP EVERY TEN BLOCKS. I've said this before on this thread and you've obviously had ignored it or not read it. Look at a subway map. :mad: Maserati, I'm sorry if I disregarded your comment, but I'm referencing specifically from Midtown to Uptown where the Lexington Line is most crowded. Alright, I'm wrong in that the Lexington line has express stations 10 or more blocks apart rather than 15 or more blocks apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 28, 2009 Share #19 Posted March 28, 2009 Ok, lets see, you could do 3 things. One, run a train control system that allows skip stop service on the entire . Two, build it as is, with provisions for express expansion at various stations & locations. Three, build as is, and come in later with more money and make it fully 3 tracks. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 28, 2009 Share #20 Posted March 28, 2009 Does anyone know if the future T train is going to use R179s, or share the fleet of R160Bs with the Q? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted March 28, 2009 Share #21 Posted March 28, 2009 Does anyone know if the future T train is going to use R179s, or share the fleet of R160Bs with the Q? Not exactly, but I think the would keep their sets of R160Bs while the would probably get a slice of the 179s or the next fleet of next generation trains. I know definitely that they plan to make it 100% NTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 28, 2009 Share #22 Posted March 28, 2009 The R44s were originally geared for 70 mph on the 2nd Avenue along with some of the R46s. I hope that the MTA still opt for the 2nd Avenue line to run 75' cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 28, 2009 Share #23 Posted March 28, 2009 If there was a third track, and that all stations are designed to be island platform stations, will the third track bypass them, or will the third track split and merge with the outside tracks before the station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted March 28, 2009 Share #24 Posted March 28, 2009 If there was a third track, and that all stations are designed to be island platform stations, will the third track bypass them, or will the third track split and merge with the outside tracks before the station? I think the track will be left or right of the tracks on to the side, if there was a 3rd track, for example, the 14th St station will have 2-side tracks, for layup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 28, 2009 Share #25 Posted March 28, 2009 I think the track will be left or right of the tracks on to the side, if there was a 3rd track, for example, the 14th St station will have 2-side tracks, for layup. You mean, in a way, à la Central Park West? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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