R10 2952 Posted April 5, 2009 Share #1 Posted April 5, 2009 Hey guys: The R-16s were retired in July of 1987. What were they like in 1987? Were they good or bad? Where they relatively clean or graffiti-covered? Were ANY R-16s painted as Redbirds before retiring (just like they did with the R-17 between 1985-1988)? I'm very curious.B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted April 5, 2009 Share #2 Posted April 5, 2009 Were ANY R-16s painted as Redbirds before retiring (just like they did with the R-17 between 1985-1988)? I'm very curious.B) One. http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted April 5, 2009 Share #3 Posted April 5, 2009 The R-16's were retired from service on the J line. They were all graffiti covered and broke down frequently, thanks to the TA's lack of maintenance. The two things that I remember about the 16's are the interior door panels which extended outwards and the loud "clacks" that the doors would make when they closed and locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 7, 2009 Share #4 Posted April 7, 2009 One. http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3024 The rest were mostly olive, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Av/Fulton Exp Posted April 8, 2009 Share #5 Posted April 8, 2009 Hey guys: The R-16s were retired in July of 1987. What were they like in 1987? Were they good or bad? Where they relatively clean or graffiti-covered? Were ANY R-16s painted as Redbirds before retiring (just like they did with the R-17 between 1985-1988)? I'm very curious. the last R16's i myself remember ever seeing was back when the ran on the brighton line yes it was covered with graff i dont recall them becoming redbird the ride to me felt very similar to R27's and the like i een remember them on the & Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Av/Fulton Exp Posted April 8, 2009 Share #6 Posted April 8, 2009 The R-16's were retired from service on the J line. They were all graffiti covered and broke down frequently, thanks to the TA's lack of maintenance. The two things that I remember about the 16's are the interior door panels which extended outwards and the loud "clacks" that the doors would make when they closed and locked. yes i used to think they looked bugged out with the door panels leaning like that, one thing u forgot to mention about the doors closing, the little air release sound it would make once the doors closed. didnt they also have the forward facing seats too? like the R9's im not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted August 7, 2009 Share #7 Posted August 7, 2009 In the end, the R16s were terrible. They actually were retired once before but when the R46s started having trouble with the Rockwell trucks, the R16s made a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrene18 Posted August 7, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 7, 2009 The R-16's were retired from service on the J line. When the R16's was retired in 1987, they was on the line. The , , and the <R> was running R27/30's and R42's at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 7, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 7, 2009 In the end, the R16s were terrible. They actually were retired once before but when the R46s started having trouble with the Rockwell trucks, the R16s made a comeback. EE, please stop bringing up many of the older threads. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 7, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 7, 2009 EE, please stop bringing up many of the older threads. Thank you. Why not, I don't see anything wrong with this. If your not a mod, don't act like one. I wish I could have seen the R16s but I was born 2 years after they were killed off. I did read somewhere that they were problem cars from the very start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted August 8, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 8, 2009 Why not, I don't see anything wrong with this. If your not a mod, don't act like one. I wish I could have seen the R16s but I was born 2 years after they were killed off. I did read somewhere that they were problem cars from the very start. Yup same I never rode them either, would have liked to. The most known problem with the R-16 was fires in the GE units. The GE units were like the R-17 (the MG vents the resistors inside a big box), and since they weren't maintained to well when debris got in there it could start a fire. THAT must have been a heck of a sight when it happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 8, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 8, 2009 Yup same I never rode them either, would have liked to. The most known problem with the R-16 was fires in the GE units. The GE units were like the R-17 (the MG vents the resistors inside a big box), and since they weren't maintained to well when debris got in there it could start a fire. THAT must have been a heck of a sight when it happened... If one of those cought fire on the Eastern Div., I don't think anyone would have noticed. That whole area was a hell hole at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted August 8, 2009 Share #13 Posted August 8, 2009 If one of those cought fire on the Eastern Div., I don't think anyone would have noticed. That whole area was a hell hole at the time. Heh...yup bring yer stale meat and have a cook out...at least you won't have to pay the gas bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted August 8, 2009 Share #14 Posted August 8, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted August 8, 2009 Share #15 Posted August 8, 2009 I remember them when they were the first "new trains" (with flourescent lighting and modern appearance) on the BMT, not counting the oddball R11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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