DX Local Train Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share #51 Posted April 9, 2009 No thats Not Funny That happen To Me The First Time I Took the To School And I was Wondering What Happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 9, 2009 Share #52 Posted April 9, 2009 LMAO!!! That and the conductor telling people the entire time from Canal St to South Ferry to be in the first five cars to exit there and there would still be people who sat there not knowing what was going on. And those tourists in the last car would have to run like mad chickens at Rector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted April 9, 2009 Share #53 Posted April 9, 2009 Diamonds Should Olny Be used For Rush Hrs As For Expresses they Should Use A Diffrent Thing Maybe A Square Or Something I disagree. There's really no need for a separate bullet for rush hour service, as there's no other variant of that service going on at that time, except the , , and MAYBE the . There's no point differentiating if there's nothing to differentiate it with. And a square would be too confusing. If you look carefully, those diamonds ARE squares tilted 45°... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share #54 Posted April 9, 2009 They Start Pushing And Its Real Annoying And I Was Just Sitting There Wondering Why Ever One Left The Train. I Had Thought It Was Some Type Of fire Or Something Like That, And Im Just Sitting There Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 9, 2009 Share #55 Posted April 9, 2009 I still dont think so, its like the <> diamond when they had it for Rockaway Beach and it was meant for RH. Same for <> when it went down west end to Bay pkwy but RH. Im mainly talking about the Maps, but same could apply to them.. Diamonds now do not specifically mean rush hour service. The runs to Manhattan till 12 something. Then the goes back to Flushing till 10. That's not rush hour, that's just peak direction. 12 noon is not rush hour. Diamonds now mean an express service on the same route, in which a certain service offers both express and local variants of the same route in the same direction. The previous Diamond Elimination Programme definition for diamonds is ambiguous. It may mean rush hour service and express service on the same route, when a local service on the same route in the same direction is offered at the same time. The A and the M do not fit in this category. It is not applicable in any measure. They are not expresses, therefore no diamonds could be applied. They are merely part-time extensions. They fit well under the doted line category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 9, 2009 Share #56 Posted April 9, 2009 Diamonds Should Olny Be used For Rush Hrs As For Expresses they Should Use A Diffrent Thing Maybe A Square Or Something No, squares are used to denote a terminating service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share #57 Posted April 9, 2009 No, squares are used to denote a terminating service. I Never Under stood that why a square Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 9, 2009 Share #58 Posted April 9, 2009 I Never Under stood that why a square Because they want them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 9, 2009 Share #59 Posted April 9, 2009 Diamonds now do not specifically mean rush hour service. The runs to Manhattan till 12 something. Then the goes back to Flushing till 10. That's not rush hour, that's just peak direction. 12 noon is not rush hour.Diamonds now mean an express service on the same route, in which a certain service offers both express and local variants of the same route in the same direction. The previous Diamond Elimination Programme definition for diamonds is ambiguous. It may mean rush hour service and express service on the same route, when a local service on the same route in the same direction is offered at the same time. The A and the M do not fit in this category. It is not applicable in any measure. They are not expresses, therefore no diamonds could be applied. They are merely part-time extensions. They fit well under the doted line category. I know, im talking about RH before when the Diamonds on the <<><><> and <> existed, those were meant for Rush Hr Only Service, not Express (Except for maybe the <> and ) The Only reason why the got rid of diamonds on those lines was becuz it was known as Rush Hr + Express() Service(Peak), which now is only Express Service, which doesnt seem fair to the which runs express, although in the view the was used for peak service to/from 238th WP as well as Flatbush service, instead of Express from 180th to 149th. I think it should come back to ease confusion like i said before. Just like the <6>/<7> which are Express for Bronx/Queens in peak direction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 9, 2009 Share #60 Posted April 9, 2009 I know, im talking about RH before when the Diamonds on the <(<><><> and <> existed, those were meant for Rush Hr Only Service, not Express (Except for maybe the <> and ) The Only reason why the got rid of diamonds on those lines was becuz it was known as Rush Hr + Express() Service(Peak), which now is only Express Service, which doesnt seem fair to the which runs express, although in the view the was used for peak service to/from 238th WP as well as Flatbush service, instead of Express from 180th to 149th. I think it should come back to ease confusion like i said before. Just like the <6>/<7> which are Express for Bronx/Queens in peak direction.. No, the definition was ambiguous. One of them meant a part-time extension. This fitted the <A>, , <M>, (Brooklyn) category. The other was for an express service along the same route. The 7 is peak service, but the express service does not cover rush hours. That is fact. 12 Noon is not rush hour. The Bronx 5 service is a weird case. All 5 trains go express in one direction only during rush hours, I do not recall if there are local fives heading to either destination PM. This is not an express variant of itself. The same goes for the D. That's why both lost the diamond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted April 10, 2009 Share #61 Posted April 10, 2009 And a square would be too confusing. If you look carefully, those diamonds ARE squares tilted 45°... Then How About a Hexagon or, Pentagon. A shape you wont get confused with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted April 10, 2009 Share #62 Posted April 10, 2009 Then How About a Hexagon or, Pentagon. A shape you wont get confused with. Even so, I still say there's no need to change from the current bullets. There's really no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share #63 Posted April 10, 2009 I do Cause I Know Some People Who Wont Know Wether to take teh (B)or(D) during Rush Hour which is real funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 11, 2009 Share #64 Posted April 11, 2009 I do Cause I Know Some People Who Wont Know Wether to take teh (B)or(D) during Rush Hour which is real funny If they are literate and have to patience to read, they would know that the D skips a few stops and the B makes all the stops down Concourse, as well as CPW. It's on the signs! (And the map too, that is, if they bother to look) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted April 11, 2009 Share #65 Posted April 11, 2009 I think the current way makes the most sense, why? When the runs express in the Bronx, there is no local running in the same direction, the runs local. In other words in the AM rush the runs express towards Manhattan, and no (5)'s run local towards Manhattan in the AM rush, the runs local. IMO, you should only have a diamond route if there is local route that runs in the same direction as the express at the same time. With the and , there is a (7)/(6) local running in the same direction as the <7>/<6> express at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted April 11, 2009 Share #66 Posted April 11, 2009 I think the current way makes the most sense, why? When the runs express in the Bronx, there is no local running in the same direction, the runs local. In other words in the AM rush the runs express towards Manhattan, and no (5)'s run local towards Manhattan in the AM rush, the runs local. IMO, you should only have a diamond route if there is local route that runs in the same direction as the express at the same time. With the and , there is a (7)/(6) local running in the same direction as the <7>/<6> express at the same time. Exactly. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 12, 2009 Share #67 Posted April 12, 2009 I think the current way makes the most sense, why? When the runs express in the Bronx, there is no local running in the same direction, the runs local. In other words in the AM rush the runs express towards Manhattan, and no (5)'s run local towards Manhattan in the AM rush, the runs local. IMO, you should only have a diamond route if there is local route that runs in the same direction as the express at the same time. With the and , there is a (7)/(6) local running in the same direction as the <7>/<6> express at the same time. Exactly, it's not a variant of itself. IT IS ITSELF. That is the same case for the D on Concourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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