DX Local Train Posted April 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted April 12, 2009 I for one think that the once again run on the concourse. With The & on the concourse it provides Both 8Av&6Av Transit Alot Of People Ride The ( To 145 Rush Hour And Tranfer To The At 59 With The© On The Concourse they wont have to do that well thats just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 12, 2009 Share #2 Posted April 12, 2009 Why? The C needs access to the barn at 174th I think. Plus the operations are simpler. What good would the C do if it remained at Concourse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted April 12, 2009 Share #3 Posted April 12, 2009 I for one think that the once again run on the concourse. With The & on the concourse it provides Both 8Av&6Av Transit Alot Of People Ride The ( To 145 Rush Hour And Tranfer To The At 59 With The© On The Concourse they wont have to do that well thats just my opinion I agree, I think a 8th Avenue line should go to concourse. I think the should run to Bedford Park Blvd during the rush, and 145th during its normal running hours. The should run to 168th street with the so people there also have the option of 6th Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted April 12, 2009 I agree, I think a 8th Avenue line should go to concourse. I think the should run to Bedford Park Blvd during the rush, and 145th during its normal running hours. The ( should run to 168th street with the so people there also have the option of 6th Avenue. Thank you I totally Agree then theres a choice between 8av and 6av and theres no need for tranfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 13, 2009 Share #5 Posted April 13, 2009 Why? The C needs access to the barn at 174th I think. Plus the operations are simpler. What good would the C do if it remained at Concourse? Storage, sometimes the trains that terminated at bedford park would be stored in Bedford Park, some goes to 207th, and some to pitkin yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 13, 2009 Share #6 Posted April 13, 2009 The thing is, look at the trains that the A and the C run. The C has access to the barn at 174th Street and it could always head to 207th for lay-ups. The C from 168th to Euclid is long itself, but Bedford Park to Euclid? I don't think crews would like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted April 13, 2009 Share #7 Posted April 13, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.1; en-us; dream) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2) There is no barn at 174th St. That's just a few layup tracks, also used for the relays. But it's true that things are simplified with the using both 207 and Euclid on both ends with the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 13, 2009 Share #8 Posted April 13, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.1; en-us; dream) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2) There is no barn at 174th St. That's just a few layup tracks, also used for the relays. But it's true that things are simplified with the using both 207 and Euclid on both ends with the . The operations are much simpler, that's why they switched in the first place in the late 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 13, 2009 Share #9 Posted April 13, 2009 Why? The C needs access to the barn at 174th I think. Plus the operations are simpler. What good would the C do if it remained at Concourse? I thought the reason why the switched with the ( is to have the color of the line match with the same. Example and is blue so then it would be with it, same for the btw does relay mean storage? I forgot x( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 13, 2009 Share #10 Posted April 13, 2009 I thought the reason why the switched with the ( is to have the color of the line match with the same. Example and is blue so then it would be with it, same for the btw does relay mean storage? I forgot x( That's a common thought, I had that thought myself before. But it's much more than that. It's about operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted April 13, 2009 Share #11 Posted April 13, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.1; en-us; dream) AppleWebKit/525.10+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0.4 Mobile Safari/523.12.2) Actually, it is more ideal to have the different colors, since that gives each branch a choice of trunk lines. Hence, the IND Queens and IRT retain their inter trunk line pairings on the outer branches. It's just with the ( and , it happened to be more operationally efficient to have the same trunks together, both in terms of equipment sharing; plus the reorganized districts being formed at the time (A/C "North"; B/D "South"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted April 13, 2009 Share #12 Posted April 13, 2009 yea but no matter what happens, the ( only runs via Grand Concourse during rush hours. it doesnt make a difference if they placed the there, itll do the same as the (, and normally the is wat usually runs via concourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted April 13, 2009 well rush hour is like teh time were people mostly use the trains anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 13, 2009 Share #14 Posted April 13, 2009 yea but no matter what happens, the ( only runs via Grand Concourse during rush hours. it doesnt make a difference if they placed the there, itll do the same as the (, and normally the is wat usually runs via concourse. But C rush hour to Bedford Park means a lot to a T/O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 14, 2009 Share #15 Posted April 14, 2009 I'm not sure making the an almost four borough local is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 14, 2009 Share #16 Posted April 14, 2009 I'm not sure making the an almost four borough local is a good idea. Agreed, the C crews won't like it. Go tell them to run a train from Bedford Park to Euclid, making ALL local stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62A 1991 Posted April 14, 2009 Share #17 Posted April 14, 2009 Agreed, the C crews won't like it. Go tell them to run a train from Bedford Park to Euclid, making ALL local stops. I'm sure they didn't like it before March 1, 1998, and I'm sure they won't like it today. Although the gives a one-seat ride to Concourse riders for 8th Av, it being a local all the way down doesn't make me believe that people are going to take it to below 59th St. If they don't, then the ( serves that purpose today. I honestly think they'd ditch it for the , but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 14, 2009 Share #18 Posted April 14, 2009 I'm sure they didn't like it before March 1, 1998, and I'm sure they won't like it today. Although the gives a one-seat ride to Concourse riders for 8th Av, it being a local all the way down doesn't make me believe that people are going to take it to below 59th St. If they don't, then the ( serves that purpose today. I honestly think they'd ditch it for the , but that's just me. Honestly, it's not that bad of a transfer. Just get off at any station between 135th and 59th and you could switch to the C from the B. Or at 125th and 59th from the D to the A or C. Cross platform transfers. Not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted April 14, 2009 If Anything Make The ©Express In the Bronx And The (D)Local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 14, 2009 Share #20 Posted April 14, 2009 If Anything Make The ©Express In the Bronx And The (D)Local Express in both directions? On the same track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share #21 Posted April 14, 2009 Lol No well...yea theres that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 14, 2009 Share #22 Posted April 14, 2009 If you make the C the Concourse Express, of course, the C must be Concourse Local at the same time, right? So what good would it be? The crews will still have to deal with long operating times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted April 14, 2009 Share #23 Posted April 14, 2009 Express in both directions? On the same track? Exactly, Concourse only has 3 tracks. If it runs express on that track, it will still run local right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DX Local Train Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share #24 Posted April 14, 2009 pay them extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted April 14, 2009 Share #25 Posted April 14, 2009 pay them extra pfft... like the would do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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