mark1447 Posted April 20, 2009 Share #1 Posted April 20, 2009 Hey guys, I wanted to ask a question.. This bus: Is this an Orion bus or something? And why was its retired so early? I remember ridding these back in 98/99 on the Manhattan 2, after that I havent seen since then =/? Were these prototypes of the Orion VII CNG/Hybrids or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken S. Posted April 20, 2009 Share #2 Posted April 20, 2009 That's an Orion VI. This one was actually ordered by NJT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted April 20, 2009 Share #3 Posted April 20, 2009 Whatever Orion VI's that weren't done away with were put into storage for emergency purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted April 20, 2009 @Ken S. ~ Why were they orded by NJT not MTA? @SevenEleven - you mean these for emergency when it subs for a bus? =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken S. Posted April 20, 2009 Share #5 Posted April 20, 2009 @Ken S. ~ Why were they ordered by NJT not MTA? I have no idea, but NJT didn't want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted April 20, 2009 Share #6 Posted April 20, 2009 I have no idea, but NJT didn't want them. I believe it was 6350-6353 that came from NJT, wasn't it? What about 6354-6359? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted April 20, 2009 Share #7 Posted April 20, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.7; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) I have no idea, but NJT didn't want them. There was a topic about this recently. (Check out Orion's recent busfan topics) IIRC, some of the Orion VI's were ordered by NJT. But due to the axles on the buses being too heavy to operate under CDOT conditions, NJT sold it to the MTA since OBI didn't want to redesign the VI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted April 20, 2009 The Orion VI was basically a test fleet for the Orion VII. I rode on an Orion VI about 3 times on the M1 back in September 2003. IIRC, the only depots to have them were MCH and MV. thanks for reasponding on that part. Im guessing there is none in service outside MaBSTOA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 20, 2009 Share #9 Posted April 20, 2009 Mark, there is some information on the Orion Primer at TTMG about the Orion 6: http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Orion_Bus_Industries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerboy6561 Posted April 20, 2009 Share #10 Posted April 20, 2009 The bus in the picture is an Orion VI (06.501). They were Orion's first full-length low floor model, and served as prototypes for much of the tech used on the Orion VII. They were only manufactured from 1998 to 2004 due to serious issues including exploding battery equalizers, violently flammable engines, and major power steering issues. The first four of these buses were purchased by NJT as numbers 4000-4004, but NJT rejected the order and picked them up as 6350-6353. IDK where 6354-6359 came from though. These buses ran out of MHV and MCH for a year or two, but they were pulled OOS following serious issues in service.The last of these buses was sent to the scrapper a few days ago, so MTA no longer has any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted April 20, 2009 Share #11 Posted April 20, 2009 The last of these buses was sent to the scrapper a few days ago, so MTA no longer has any. Wait a sec... weren't they saving 6350? For the museum fleet or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycbusfan Posted April 20, 2009 Share #12 Posted April 20, 2009 Wait a sec... weren't they saving 6360? For the museum fleet or something? I heard they might save 6350. 6360 was a hybrid RTS that is long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted April 20, 2009 Share #13 Posted April 20, 2009 I heard they might save 6350. 6360 was a hybrid RTS that is long gone. Whoops, that's what I meant. 6350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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