mark1447 Posted April 29, 2009 Share #51 Posted April 29, 2009 Nope the Line is not giving up any equipment they just lay them up during middays instead of running them all afternoon. The just will store fewer trains and have them operate in the afternoon instead of laying them up at Zoo Lots or E 180 St. What zoo lot? Also doesnth the Lays up north of utica too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted April 29, 2009 Share #52 Posted April 29, 2009 You get the Zoo Lots thing one of these days that what we call it. They don't lay up anything at Utica on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 29, 2009 Share #53 Posted April 29, 2009 You get the Zoo Lots thing one of these days that what we call it. They don't lay up anything at Utica on the . Oh..Well I remember i was on an SB in fev and when i entered the tube i saw a layed up during the midday.. So why does the get sent to Utica? For Access to Livonia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 29, 2009 Share #54 Posted April 29, 2009 The gets sent to Utica or New Lots simply because Flatbush Avenue can't handle the volume of trains required on the and lines. The even gets sent to Utica or New Lots during the PM rush. yea i know about that, but wouldnt that increase the amount of trains on the New Lots Line, which can cause some delays.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted April 29, 2009 Share #55 Posted April 29, 2009 There are a couple (4)s sent to Bowling Green. The has way to much service outside of rush hour and its not even funny; well mainly between Woodlawn & 149th Street and with the (D)/( a block away 10-12 mins would even be good for the . A train has to be overcrowded for it to be crowded. You may see a platform on the Jerome EL crowded but most of the train is crowded in the 3/4/5/6/7/8 cars, leaving cars 1/2/9/10 nothing really and cars 4/5/6/7 are usually dumb crowded. But thats just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted April 29, 2009 Share #56 Posted April 29, 2009 Wait a second... when this happens the would most likely get some of the (4)'s R142A's since the will be running less before and the running more As long as I can get a or when i need it....I could could care less what cars it gets...for a short while they had trains running into brooklyn during middays and if I'm correct the was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemcclain1 Posted April 29, 2009 Share #57 Posted April 29, 2009 I don't see why people are upset over this. Your rationale is that will have an equal headway to the instead of having a very short one. The does not even need that much service because the train is about a block away. You say the is about a block away. Once the gets below Kingsbridge Road in the Bronx. The distance between the Grand Concourse and Jerome Ave improves significantly. On average of about 4 blocks. Mind you the Bronx is very hilly. Getting to the Grand Concourse is uphill from Jerome Ave. And for those who live west of Jerome Ave. Getting to the involves hills and or steps, coming from the direction of University Ave. Passengers who take the generally remain on the East Side of Manhattan, to go to work, school or play. Taking the instead would eliminate the 1 seat ride. If they even get a seat to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted April 29, 2009 Share #58 Posted April 29, 2009 Why some people are calling New Lots Zoo lots?it's New Lots. Because back in the 80's/early 90's, that's exactly what it was. Going past the Pink Houses was always an iffy proposition as you never knew when your train was going to be used for target practice. And I can't tell you how many T/O's and C/R's had to throw down their wallet to the street on the lead in into Livonia Yard because a gun was pointing up. The area around New Lots & Livonia was infamous for its lawlessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 29, 2009 Share #59 Posted April 29, 2009 The area around New Lots & Livonia was infamous for its lawlessness. Has much of it changed? Don't really make my way down to that part of town too often... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted April 29, 2009 Share #60 Posted April 29, 2009 Wait a second... when this happens the would most likely get some of the (4)'s R142A's since the will be running less before and the running more I believe there are also R142s running on the . If so, then the logical conclusion would be to use those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted April 30, 2009 Share #61 Posted April 30, 2009 I'm just going to say, this is good news that the is going to Brooklyn, at least I can have a direct ride to the Bronx's line from my neck of the woods borough. Another good thing, when I ride the , I won't have to get off at Bowling Green and wait for the , I can keep taking the . :cool: The downside is that the South Ferry loop tracks won't be used anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 30, 2009 Share #62 Posted April 30, 2009 Whats a Zoo Lot? I know Pelham bay dave said something about it, im confused a bit. Is that relay track? ___________________________ I believe there are also R142s running on the . If so, then the logical conclusion would be to use those. There are R142s on the , they share R142/R142As. there is no more R62s on the however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted April 30, 2009 Share #63 Posted April 30, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 30, 2009 Share #64 Posted April 30, 2009 So this means the will run express in Brooklyn still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted April 30, 2009 Share #65 Posted April 30, 2009 So this means the will run express in Brooklyn still? Yeah, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 30, 2009 Share #66 Posted April 30, 2009 Zoo Lot = New Lot. It is just something they randomly say at times. Mark, I think you better come here more to preserve your know about NYC Subway/Bus System! geez they make up names for everything, next thing you know it, City Hall would be called Mayors House lol. And umm I know some transit, thats something. I dunno much, but will do. I dont only have interest in transit u know. Computer is my thing to and im learning. So give me time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted April 30, 2009 Share #67 Posted April 30, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted April 30, 2009 Share #68 Posted April 30, 2009 i honestly have to agree...I mean for me its all the same since I rarely go above E 51st but usually when I ride the Lex lines...its like 2 or 3 trains to 1 that will pass through. Not saying this is always the case but this is my experience with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted April 30, 2009 Share #69 Posted April 30, 2009 i honestly have to agree...I mean for me its all the same since I rarely go above E 51st but usually when I ride the Lex lines...its like 2 or 3 trains to 1 that will pass through. Not saying this is always the case but this is my experience with it... For the last few years the schedule has 2 (4)s for each on Lexington Ave during the mid-day hours.To the other posters...Yes there is 1 train layup south of Utica weekdays. No the line is not sending any equipment over to the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 30, 2009 Share #70 Posted April 30, 2009 Look who's talking. Some people here don't know anything about the history of the NYC Transit System. Let alone, transit in general. Going back to the topic, the seeing longer headways is justified. I'll say it over and over, the Jerome Line is overserved. Especially during middays. IAWTP. The 4 is comparatively frequent along the Jerome Ave El during midday hours. Being a frequent user of that line, I know how frequent service is on that line. Sometimes the frequency would be 2 minutes, as witnessed at Bedford Park Boulevard. Over the course of 10 minutes, 4 to 5 trains would pass on the Woodlawn side (this is at 3 PM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bknightshadow45 Posted May 5, 2009 Share #71 Posted May 5, 2009 I have mixed feelings about the being extended to Brooklyn during midday hours. I'm happy that Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn has added service the the will help the and the in Brooklyn. However, it will take me longer to get to school since I attend Lehman College. During the trial run few months ago, I was waiting for a train at Atlantic Avenue and three Bronx bound trains pass by before a train came to Atlantic Avenue. If I knew back then the waiting time was long I would have taken the train to Bedford Park Blvd. But when I go to work along Eastchester Road I get to work faster since there is more trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 5, 2009 Share #72 Posted May 5, 2009 I have mixed feelings about the being extended to Brooklyn during midday hours. I'm happy that Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn has added service the the will help the and the in Brooklyn. However, it will take me longer to get to school since I attend Lehman College. During the trial run few months ago, I was waiting for a train at Atlantic Avenue and three Bronx bound trains pass by before a train came to Atlantic Avenue. If I knew back then the waiting time was long I would have taken the train to Bedford Park Blvd. But when I go to work along Eastchester Road I get to work faster since there is more trains. Instead of waiting for the you can take the up tp 149th- Mott ave and take the there (But walking Upstairs, or 125th and waiting on the same platform. The time diffrence wont change seeing that its the same as waiting for the at your stop and at 125th, 149th or anywhere where the runs. As long as you catch the (40 behind it on time. On PM hrs of course there will be like 2 /3 and behind it, mainly becuz 1 or 2 could be Dyre or 238th Bound train.. Same heading SB And thats how the Trial ran, it will be like that of course, if they leave the same amount of on bklyn with additional then that would lead to a delay all over the line.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Av/Fulton Exp Posted May 5, 2009 Share #73 Posted May 5, 2009 personally, i love it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. UTZ Posted May 5, 2009 Share #74 Posted May 5, 2009 Question-- How about running every other train to 149st? That way the Jerome line will have extended headways but Manhattan service wont suffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 5, 2009 Share #75 Posted May 5, 2009 Question-- How about running every other train to 149st? That way the Jerome line will have extended headways but Manhattan service wont suffer? Umm no, the doesnt need to terminate at 149 a waste of money and time, It would most likly be the same bro. Anyways I like the idea of the to flatbush during Middays, can help the out as well as allowing people up at dyre line who want brooklyn can go str8 rather then hitting the at E180th to 149th =)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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