I Run Trains Posted May 18, 2009 Share #1 Posted May 18, 2009 The Ten Busiest Local Bus Routes 2008 Number Route Borough Annual Ridership 1 M15 Manhattan 17,594,489 2 B46 Brooklyn 17,359,647 3 B6 Brooklyn 14,360,813 4 Bx12 Bronx 14,272,913 5 B44 Brooklyn 13,454,511 6 Bx1/2 Bronx 13,134,222 7 B35 Brooklyn 13,116,301 8 B41 Brooklyn 12,880,818 9 M14 Manhattan 12,397,857 10 M101 Manhattan 11,128,738 Interesting How theres No Queens Routes here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted May 18, 2009 Share #2 Posted May 18, 2009 The Ten Busiest Local Bus Routes 2008 Number Route Borough Annual Ridership 1 M15 Manhattan 17,594,489 2 B46 Brooklyn 17,359,647 3 B6 Brooklyn 14,360,813 4 Bx12 Bronx 14,272,913 5 B44 Brooklyn 13,454,511 6 Bx1/2 Bronx 13,134,222 7 B35 Brooklyn 13,116,301 8 B41 Brooklyn 12,880,818 9 M14 Manhattan 12,397,857 10 M101 Manhattan 11,128,738 Interesting How theres No Queens Routes here! Agreed. I thought routes like the Q44 Bx15/55 or M86 would be on this list. Except for the M14, all of the routes listed all have limited stop/sbs 'express' service. Off topic for second. This data of how busy the BX1 is, shows that the BX1 should have overnight service from 1-5am. The Q60 recently started with late night bus service along Queens Blvd sharing most of route with the lines. Why not the BX1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Run Trains Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted May 18, 2009 Agreed. I thought routes like the Q44 Bx15/55 or M86 would be on this list. Except for the M14, all of the routes listed all have limited stop/sbs 'express'service. Off topic for second. This data of how busy the BX1 is, shows that the BX1 should have overnight service from 1-5am. The Q60 recently started with late night bus service along Queens Blvd sharing most of route with the lines. Why not the BX1? Probably because the is right under and the is like 2 to 3 blocks west. i understand what u are saying about the M60 thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted May 18, 2009 Share #4 Posted May 18, 2009 The Ten Busiest Local Bus Routes 2008 Number Route Borough Annual Ridership 1 M15 Manhattan 17,594,489 2 B46 Brooklyn 17,359,647 3 B6 Brooklyn 14,360,813 4 Bx12 Bronx 14,272,913 5 B44 Brooklyn 13,454,511 6 Bx1/2 Bronx 13,134,222 7 B35 Brooklyn 13,116,301 8 B41 Brooklyn 12,880,818 9 M14 Manhattan 12,397,857 10 M101 Manhattan 11,128,738 Interesting How theres No Queens Routes here! i know its a top 10, but i wanted to include two routes as well... Q44 Queens S53 Staten Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted May 19, 2009 Share #5 Posted May 19, 2009 Queens routes are not included in the bus statistics.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted May 21, 2009 Share #6 Posted May 21, 2009 Where is the Bx19, Bx36, and Bx41???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemcclain1 Posted May 21, 2009 Share #7 Posted May 21, 2009 Where is the Bx19, Bx36, and Bx41???? The Bx19 had an annual total of 10,933,152 ranking at 11 The Bx36 had an annual total of 10,128,309 ranking at 12 The Bx41 had an annual total of 9,216,596 ranking at 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemcclain1 Posted May 21, 2009 Share #8 Posted May 21, 2009 i know its a top 10, but i wanted to include two routes as well... Q44 Queens S53 Staten Island The Q44 ranked in at #20 with an annual ridership of 8,174,942 The S53 ranked in at #92 with an annual ridership of 3,112,408 Queens routes are not included in the bus statistics.. All routes were included in the statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 21, 2009 Share #9 Posted May 21, 2009 Well, 6 out of 10 aint too bad... As soon as I saw the thread title, I decided to write down (guess) what I thought the routes were... I wrote down the: M15, M14, M101, Q46, Q44, B35, B46, B6, Bx12, and the S53.... - The manhattan ones I didn't have to hesitate for... - The brooklyn ones, I actually had the B44 & the B41... but crossed those off for the B6 & the Q44... - I didn't think a SI route would be here, but you never know w/ these things... - The Bronx... Bx1/2? if the ridership is divided, how can they include both those routes... The Bx12 was the easiest... - I'd think there would be at least one Queens route up here.... since it's not listed, which Queens route ranked the highest in this list then? and what rank was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBus Posted May 21, 2009 Share #10 Posted May 21, 2009 Does anyone have an idea why the B46 is so much more popular than the B41, when 30 years ago the B41 always surpassed the B46. Both routes have not undergone any route changes and both have had limited stop service added. Would dollar vans have anything to do with this but I don't see how since they are on both routes or are they more prevalent today on the B41? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Run Trains Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted May 21, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.6; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) Well, 6 out of 10 aint too bad... As soon as I saw the thread title, I decided to write down (guess) what I thought the routes were... I wrote down the: M15, M14, M101, Q46, Q44, B35, B46, B6, Bx12, and the S53.... - The manhattan ones I didn't have to hesitate for... - The brooklyn ones, I actually had the B44 & the B41... but crossed those off for the B6 & the Q44... - I didn't think a SI route would be here, but you never know w/ these things... - The Bronx... Bx1/2? if the ridership is divided, how can they include both those routes... The Bx12 was the easiest... - I'd think there would be at least one Queens route up here.... since it's not listed, which Queens route ranked the highest in this list then? and what rank was it? Why Not put the Bx1 and 2 together? People get on either or through out the whole route. From 149 st and the Concoarse all the way up to Ft Independance its that same route plus they have the same starting point. So what really make these 2 buses that different to count them as 2 different buses? Not tha much! The Bx1 extends to Riverdale on the northern end and the Bx2 serves the Hub. Other than that they are the same bus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 22, 2009 Share #12 Posted May 22, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.6; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) Why Not put the Bx1 and 2 together? People get on either or through out the whole route. From 149 st and the Concoarse all the way up to Ft Independance its that same route plus they have the same starting point. So what really make these 2 buses that different to count them as 2 different buses? Not tha much! The Bx1 extends to Riverdale on the northern end and the Bx2 serves the Hub. Other than that they are the same bus! What are you getting defensive about? They're still two separate bus routes... Looks as if you're basing your point due to the fact that they both run on the Concourse... Yeah, a high percentage of both of those routes' ridership comes from the Concourse... that 13 million or w/e the number was, for the "Bx 1/2" can't be all Concourse riders (if so, that would be a misleading statistic)... If they had a separate stat for the Bx1, and a separate stat for the Bx2, and then decided to summate the two of them, then that's one thing.... Aren't these supposed to be statistics for the 10 busiest local bus routes... as opposed to the 10 busiest corridors..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 22, 2009 Share #13 Posted May 22, 2009 Does anyone have an idea why the B46 is so much more popular than the B41, when 30 years ago the B41 always surpassed the B46. Both routes have not undergone any route changes and both have had limited stop service added. Would dollar vans have anything to do with this but I don't see how since they are on both routes or are they more prevalent today on the B41? Far as popularity goes... Well, bro, there are way more dollar vans running on Flatbush now, then there are on Utica.... From my observations, the average person would opt to wait for a dollar van then they would the bus, along Flatbush.... The Flatbush vans covers almost all of the B41 route... However, that statement isn't true for the B46.. the Utica vans run about half the route; does nothing for those riders north of eastern parkway.... I'd say the average rider along Utica would wait for that B46 - b/c Utica vans are so sparse now... Although the B41 gets it's many riders, I'm guessing that B46 riders (especially those that reside in Bed Stuy' & Crown Heights) feel that the route serves their community (and the residences within it) quite well... The B41 route is almost 100% commercial... There's a difference b/w someone taking a bus to get to some store/shopping area... and someone taking a bus that leaves them within less than a handful of minutes to their place of residence without having to manuever around ppl. shopping or w/e (commercial areas).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted May 22, 2009 Share #14 Posted May 22, 2009 The Ten Busiest Local Bus Routes 2008 Number Route Borough Annual Ridership 1 M15 Manhattan 17,594,489 2 B46 Brooklyn 17,359,647 3 B6 Brooklyn 14,360,813 4 Bx12 Bronx 14,272,913 5 B44 Brooklyn 13,454,511 6 Bx1/2 Bronx 13,134,222 7 B35 Brooklyn 13,116,301 8 B41 Brooklyn 12,880,818 9 M14 Manhattan 12,397,857 10 M101 Manhattan 11,128,738 Interesting How theres No Queens Routes here! These are pretty much what I expected. However, I thought that the B41 was the busiest route in Brooklyn. It comes about once every 90 seconds during rush hour. I'm surprised that the M14 is busier than the M101, especially considering that the M101 is about three times the length of the M14. I was thinking that the Q46 would be #9 or #10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Run Trains Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted May 22, 2009 What are you getting defensive about? They're still two separate bus routes... Looks as if you're basing your point due to the fact that they both run on the Concourse... Yeah, a high percentage of both of those routes' ridership comes from the Concourse... that 13 million or w/e the number was, for the "Bx 1/2" can't be all Concourse riders (if so, that would be a misleading statistic)... If they had a separate stat for the Bx1, and a separate stat for the Bx2, and then decided to summate the two of them, then that's one thing.... Aren't these supposed to be statistics for the 10 busiest local bus routes... as opposed to the 10 busiest corridors..... Hold on, Pump Your breaks pimpin. i aint getting defensive about any thing but at the end of the day its the same line 95%! point Blank! For all that they can turn the Bx2 into a Bx1 have have the Route Split like the Bx1 Use to Slplit years ago to service Beford Park and Lehman and ride down Paul to mosholu Pkway back to the regular Route... shrugs. nothing serious! it was still the same route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted May 22, 2009 Share #16 Posted May 22, 2009 That's too cool that the Bx12 is in the Top 5 let alone Top 10. I always heard that the Bx1/2 was the busiest route in the Bronx but that didn't seem to be the case this year. The Bx12 Local and Bx12 SBS rock! I don't ride the buses in Brooklyn much but I'm also surprised to see the B46 have more ridership than the B41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 22, 2009 Share #17 Posted May 22, 2009 Hold on, Pump Your breaks pimpin. i aint getting defensive about any thing but at the end of the day its the same line 95%! point Blank! For all that they can turn the Bx2 into a Bx1 have have the Route Split like the Bx1 Use to Slplit years ago to service Beford Park and Lehman and ride down Paul to mosholu Pkway back to the regular Route... shrugs. nothing serious! it was still the same route Don't know what you're going off on a tangent about, but the fact is, they are two separate routes... I don't make this stuff up... In any event, feel free to deem them however you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Run Trains Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share #18 Posted May 24, 2009 Don't know what you're going off on a tangent about, but the fact is, they are two separate routes... I don't make this stuff up... In any event, feel free to deem them however you want. SMH! i dont get you people on here. yeah Bx1 and Bx2 dont look alike! it aint the same, but you seem to miss what im talking about... let me ask you a question. Going North On the Bx1 or Bx2 If you get on at 138 st and 3rd ave, what bus are you gonna get on if your going to ummm. lets say....Bedford park?!??! what ever comes first right?!?!? i know its two different routes but 90% of the line is that same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 25, 2009 Share #19 Posted May 25, 2009 SMH! i dont get you people on here. yeah Bx1 and Bx2 dont look alike! it aint the same, but you seem to miss what im talking about... let me ask you a question. Going North On the Bx1 or Bx2 If you get on at 138 st and 3rd ave, what bus are you gonna get on if your going to ummm. lets say....Bedford park?!??! what ever comes first right?!?!? i know its two different routes but 90% of the line is that same! fam... I been done got your point... I just don't see it as a reason to combine the two routes in regards to ridership statistics.... This latest reply of yours, You're giving me a scenario to support the fact that the two routes serve the same areas for MOST of the route... yeah, that person's gonna get on either bus... got all that.... I'm not fin to get into what if scenarios, b/c it's redundant... Your original reply to my first post in this thread asked, why not put the two routes together.... From Kingsbridge, the Bx1 picks up more riders.... From 138th/3rd to 149th/GC, the Bx2 tends to pick up more riders.... And also, what about the amt. of riders that used to board along Melrose, e. 165th, etc, before the Bx2 route got altered (these are '08 stats, right?)... That, to me, is a significant enough difference in riders.... per day, per month, per year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemcclain1 Posted May 26, 2009 Share #20 Posted May 26, 2009 Well, 6 out of 10 aint too bad... As soon as I saw the thread title, I decided to write down (guess) what I thought the routes were... I wrote down the: M15, M14, M101, Q46, Q44, B35, B46, B6, Bx12, and the S53.... - The manhattan ones I didn't have to hesitate for... - The brooklyn ones, I actually had the B44 & the B41... but crossed those off for the B6 & the Q44... - I didn't think a SI route would be here, but you never know w/ these things... - The Bronx... Bx1/2? if the ridership is divided, how can they include both those routes... The Bx12 was the easiest... - I'd think there would be at least one Queens route up here.... since it's not listed, which Queens route ranked the highest in this list then? and what rank was it? The Q58 was ranked 13 with an annual ridership of 9,465,081 The Q44 was ranked 20 with an annual ridership of 8,174,942 The Q27 was ranked 26 with an annual ridership of 7,148,074 The Q46 was ranked 29 with an annual ridership of 6,700,783 The Q17 was ranked 31 with an annual ridership of 6,097,701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted May 26, 2009 Share #21 Posted May 26, 2009 Where did the Bx26, Bx28 and Bx30 rank on this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacsnyy Posted May 26, 2009 Share #22 Posted May 26, 2009 Can you tell me where the B63, B68 and B3 ranked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacsnyy Posted May 26, 2009 Share #23 Posted May 26, 2009 Can you tell me where the B3, B63 and B68 rank? Also, I have to think that the B46 and Bx12 (+SBS) rank higher on this list or have more riders, because both have had articles written about them in the past year about a massive number of fare evaders. I assume the MTA is using farebox data, so those fare evaders wouldn't be counted in the statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted May 26, 2009 Share #24 Posted May 26, 2009 The Bx12 easily belongs on that list...but the Bx1/2? They're two separate routes. Why are they listed together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 27, 2009 Share #25 Posted May 27, 2009 Does any1 know the Bx40/42? As well as the M100/M60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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