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Was there a difference between R-33ML and R-36 ML?

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Was there any distinction whatsoever, be it pre-GOH or post-GOH, between these two car orders? What set apart the 34 ML R-36s from the something-hundred-strong ML R-33? Perhaps floor paneling, or interior lighting? Does anyone know? Also, I know that the ML R-33s made their final run on April 14th, 2003. When did the ML R-36s make their final run(s)? If anyone would know, I would truly be grateful.:)

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Which model had the straight square windows? <5>

 

No the last retired ones had those picture windows that ran on the (7)/<7>. And I think the 26/28/29 had the square windows.

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No the last retired ones had those picture windows that ran on the (7)/<7>. And I think the 26/28/29 had the square windows.

 

 

The R26/R28/R29/R33ML/R36ML Redbirds had the square windows.

 

The R33WF/R36WF Redbirds had the picture windows.

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The only diffrence that i could remember between the 2 were the car numbers,other then

that they look the same.

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The R36s had A/C, the R33s didn't.

 

 

 

 

The topic is on the Main Line cars,not the Worlds fair cars.

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What's the difference between main line and world's fair cars?

 

Window shape.

 

Mainline:

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WF:

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ok, let me reference my trusty Gene Sansone Book:

http://images.nycsubway.org/cars/datasheet-r33.jpg

http://images.nycsubway.org/cars/sheet036-r33wf.jpg

http://images.nycsubway.org/cars/datasheet-r36wf.jpg

 

R33ML:

500 cars (pre-GOH): WH 1447C or GE 1240A5, PA (Industron),

494 cars (GOH): WH 1447JR or GE 1257E1, PA (Comco),

 

R33WF:

40 cars (both)

 

R36ML:

34 cars (both)

 

R36WF:

390 cars (both)

 

* give me 48 hours, i will revamp this and make it clearer, in addition to adding in all the information.:P

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Regarding the window shapes, didn't all the R26s-R30As have the square shapes while all the R33s-R36s have the rounder R32 windows?

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Regarding the window shapes, didn't all the R26s-R30As have the square shapes while all the R33s-R36s have the rounder R32 windows?

 

Nope. Only the World's Fair cars had those "picture windows." Everything else, which includes most of the R33 order and a select few R36s, had the square windows.

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R29s R33MLs and R36MLs were all identical prior to overhaul.

 

After overhaul, R29s were rebuilt with and ended up identical to the R26-R28 fleets, and the R36MLs were rebuilt with and were similar to the R36WF fleet. The R33MLs were rebuilt as their own fleet.

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A little off topic, but why weren't the R33 ML's rebuilt with air conditioning?

 

They were. You're probably thinking about the WF's. Those weren't because A/C would make the car too heavy. Remember that those were single units.

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