Fresh Pond Posted September 13, 2009 Share #26 Posted September 13, 2009 What if the IND second system was actually built? What if they still used diamond symbols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #27 Posted September 13, 2009 What if the IND second system was actually built?What if they still used diamond symbols? 1) Then they'd be planning for the third system 2) Then everything would look normal <R> -rr4567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #28 Posted September 13, 2009 What IF GE ran out of business before the R32s were made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #29 Posted September 13, 2009 Then they'd be made by Shitman.....err Pullman and would have suffered truck cracks too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted September 13, 2009 Share #30 Posted September 13, 2009 Then they'd be made by S***man.....err Pullman and would have suffered truck cracks too Wouldn't Budd have still made the car bodies? GE was not Budd. What if Budd had won contracts after the R32? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #31 Posted September 13, 2009 Wouldn't Budd have still made the car bodies? GE was not Budd. What if Budd had won contracts after the R32? "Wouldn't Budd have still made the car bodies? GE was not Budd." It was the trucks though If Budd won contracts after R32, then nothing would be so cheaply built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #32 Posted September 13, 2009 Then they'd be made by Shitman.....err Pullman and would have suffered truck cracks too IDK if you're kidding or not but the R46's only had cracks in their trucks because they were supposed to be the NTT of the 70's and the trucks were designed for use on ballast (I think?) roadbeds, and the concrete (I think? i might have switched the 2 i just mentioned) roadbeds used on the NYC subway generated much more wear and tear on the trucks than ballast did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted September 13, 2009 Share #33 Posted September 13, 2009 It was the trucks though Which were built by Rockwell International, not Pullman Standard IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #34 Posted September 13, 2009 Which were built by Rockwell International, not Pullman Standard IIRC holy crap you're right my mistake, I was tired yesterday -rr4567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 13, 2009 Share #35 Posted September 13, 2009 And please cool it with the use of the profanity already. And also those annoying smilies, they were annoying over at Subchat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #36 Posted September 13, 2009 And please cool it with the use of the profanity already. And also those annoying smilies, they were annoying over at Subchat. What profanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 13, 2009 Share #37 Posted September 13, 2009 Then they'd be made by Shitman.....err Pullman and would have suffered truck cracks too That ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #38 Posted September 13, 2009 That ^ Wow...one post where I said the S word...... ON TOPIC: What if there was no Queens Blvd. Line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 13, 2009 Share #39 Posted September 13, 2009 Wow...one post where I said the S word......ON TOPIC: What if there was no Queens Blvd. Line? I'm just asking you to refrain from using it that's all. Back on topic: Queens would be a total mess with the 7 train beyond max capacity and the Q60 would not cut it for Queens Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #40 Posted September 13, 2009 Living in Queens would be an absolute nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #41 Posted September 13, 2009 What would the system be like if we still had all our old trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 13, 2009 Share #42 Posted September 13, 2009 What would the system be like if we still had all our old trains? Constant break downs and high expenses for repairing them. Not to mention eventually the parts would all be gone and they would need to cannibalize some cars to keep the rest running. Also depends, which era cars are you saying would still be around? R9's or such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #43 Posted September 13, 2009 Constant break downs and high expenses for repairing them. Not to mention eventually the parts would all be gone and they would need to cannibalize some cars to keep the rest running. Also depends, which era cars are you saying would still be around? R9's or such? Nuh-uh, the R26s-R40s and the redbirds R1-9 is too old and would break dsown constantly..Look at the ones in the Transit Museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 13, 2009 Share #44 Posted September 13, 2009 Nuh-uh, the R26s-R40s and the redbirds R1-9 is too old and would break dsown constantly..Look at the ones in the Transit Museum. Ok. I don't see how the R9's break down constantly, those are the ones always used on the vintage train runs. It would be nice if the IRT SMEE's ran as often as those R9's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 13, 2009 Share #45 Posted September 13, 2009 Ok.I don't see how the R9's break down constantly, those are the ones always used on the vintage train runs. It would be nice if the IRT SMEE's ran as often as those R9's. I'm not talking about like immobilizing breakdowns, but did you ever notice how sometimes they have to pull the door closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 13, 2009 Share #46 Posted September 13, 2009 Nuh-uh, the R26s-R40s and the redbirds R1-9 is too old and would break dsown constantly..Look at the ones in the Transit Museum. Age is not a reason for something to break down. Poor/incorrect maintenance is a reason for why things break down. Look at the Lo-V at BERA for example. As old as your grandmother and still running strong. Why? Because they do a damn good job at maintaining their fleet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 13, 2009 Share #47 Posted September 13, 2009 I'm not talking about like immobilizing breakdowns, but did you ever notice how sometimes they have to pull the door closed? Some R40-42's have that problem with at least one door being stuck in the closed position. That's bad maintainence or the motor to close the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concourse Express Posted September 13, 2009 Share #48 Posted September 13, 2009 Some R40-42's have that problem with at least one door being stuck in the closed position. That's bad maintainence or the motor to close the door. I noticed a few R160's on the experiencing the same problem (doors "stuck" or locked in the closed position); clearly motors may not be the only problem. In the case of the I surmise it's the overcrowding and possible door holding that messed up those doors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 13, 2009 Share #49 Posted September 13, 2009 I noticed a few R160's on the experiencing the same problem (doors "stuck" or locked in the closed position); clearly motors may not be the only problem. In the case of the I surmise it's the overcrowding and possible door holding that messed up those doors... Damn, i didn't expect this problem to happen this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted September 14, 2009 Share #50 Posted September 14, 2009 Wouldn't Budd have still made the car bodies? GE was not Budd. What if Budd had won contracts after the R32? I was referring to the fact that GE made propulsion systems and motors. If only the R32-R42 and R46-R62 utilized Westinghouse Propulsion systems with Westinghouse motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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